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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 10:54 PM Mar 2021

Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He's a 'Family Man' with 'No Previous


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Donald J. Drumpf
@RealDonalDrumpf
How many times have I heard my former personal attorneys say this?

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Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He’s a ‘Family Man’ with ‘No Previous Experience’ Being Jailed, Lawyers Claim

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8:06 PM · Mar 22, 2021


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n the Second Superseding Indictment filed earlier this month in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the government alleged that on Jan. 6, Young and nine other members of the Oath Keepers “planned with each other, and with others known and unknown, to forcibly enter the Capitol” in order to “stop, delay, and hinder the Congressional proceedings occurring that day.”

The group, which includes Kelly Meggs, Connie Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Thomas Caldwell, Donovan Crowl, Jessica Watkins, Sandra Parker, Bennie Parker, and Laura Steele, are alleged to have “prepared themselves for battle before heading to the Capitol by equipping themselves with communication devices and donning reinforced vests, helmets, and goggles.” They were charged with conspiracy, obstructing official government proceedings, destruction of government property, and trespassing.

Young, who served in the U.S. Navy Reserve for seven years, was also charged with the corrupt destruction of evidence for deleting his Facebook account in the days following the Capitol siege.

Lawyer for Young filed a motion on Monday seeking to have the initial bond ruling vacated, arguing that the Government lacked sufficient evidence to hold Young on the charges. They cited to his “strong character” and the “psychological burdens” Young has endured as a result of his first-ever jailing as reasons why he should be released.
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Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because He's a 'Family Man' with 'No Previous (Original Post) soothsayer Mar 2021 OP
Another snowflake melting in the bonfire of justice. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2021 #1
too bdamomma Mar 2021 #2
Tough guys until GP6971 Mar 2021 #3
These deluded imbeciles actually thought dressing up like Seal Team 6 operators and violently sop Mar 2021 #4
They still think that. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2021 #6
First-ever jailing is hard on everyone who goes. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #5
Every single experience WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #10
Exactly so. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #11
If I could give it WA-03 Democrat Mar 2021 #16
I know it is serious but I had a tiny giggle thinking of the Yelp reviews for prison/jail. Solly Mack Mar 2021 #17
This guy was prepared to kill. Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #7
Don't want to be jailed for the first time? Don't commit your first felony. GulfCoast66 Mar 2021 #8
This is bullshit! smirkymonkey Mar 2021 #9
Psychological burdens? Demobrat Mar 2021 #12
Too bad, so sad, now go fuck yourself bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #13
They are used to watching their heroes like the Orange Anus get away with everything. CentralMass Mar 2021 #14
By the way, this degenerate piece of shit is a family man bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #15
Awwwww .... call the waaaaaambulance! UpInArms Mar 2021 #18
First ever insurrection gets you first ever jailing. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2021 #19
"He just happened to be at the Capitol dressed in battle gear when suddenly struggle4progress Mar 2021 #20
Family Man? arkielib Mar 2021 #21
A family man thinks about his family and the wnylib Mar 2021 #33
Navy Reserve, huh rpannier Mar 2021 #22
On the Southern Border Customs has standing orders to throw the book grantcart Mar 2021 #31
Please! Let this delicate little flower bloom again! NBachers Mar 2021 #23
LOL..👍 Budi Mar 2021 #29
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #24
Tough shit, asshole! Mickju Mar 2021 #25
It is shocking to me that his lawyer thinks this is a valid argument FlyingPiggy Mar 2021 #26
YOU STORMED THE CAPITOL! Pepsidog Mar 2021 #27
after the new's today. monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #28
These are probably the same who say the police officer is always right and if he's not halfulglas Mar 2021 #30
Damn! Two things: PatrickforB Mar 2021 #32
no excuse ! sorry . monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #34
He'd better learn to cope with his "psychological burdens" because he could be looking at Vinca Mar 2021 #35
Mister Young onethatcares Mar 2021 #36
There was a point when Michael Jordan had no experience in the NBA either Takket Mar 2021 #37
He was just obeying his beloved fascist leader's orders Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #38

GP6971

(31,174 posts)
3. Tough guys until
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:05 PM
Mar 2021

they have to face the music for their actions. Then they fold like the wimps that they are.

sop

(10,208 posts)
4. These deluded imbeciles actually thought dressing up like Seal Team 6 operators and violently
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:10 PM
Mar 2021

attacking the US Capitol would go unpunished.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. They still think that.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:27 PM
Mar 2021

If they let him out on bail, he would start crying to have the charges dropped.

No. Bail.

Solly Mack

(90,775 posts)
17. I know it is serious but I had a tiny giggle thinking of the Yelp reviews for prison/jail.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:02 AM
Mar 2021

Though I must admit to getting good grub while in holding. From a local mom and pop place. Delicious.

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
7. This guy was prepared to kill.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:32 PM
Mar 2021

Zero doubt he would have helped murder women and the elderly in the Capitol if he could have gotten his hands on them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. Don't want to be jailed for the first time? Don't commit your first felony.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:36 PM
Mar 2021

It is not difficult to understand.

Demobrat

(8,983 posts)
12. Psychological burdens?
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:45 PM
Mar 2021

What a whiny little baby. Bet he wasn’t psychologically burdened when he was dressing up to go play revolutionary. Bet he was feeling like a master of the universe right about then.

Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
13. Too bad, so sad, now go fuck yourself
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:45 PM
Mar 2021

Get used to being in jail. You should be there a long time. Navy Reserve, you took an oath, you dishonored the oath, you tried to take down a democratically elected President. Hopefully when you get out after a lengthy lock up, you will be and go right back in to a military brig you walking, talking piece of garbage.

bottomofthehill

(8,336 posts)
15. By the way, this degenerate piece of shit is a family man
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:51 PM
Mar 2021

He invited his sister to join him in an armed insurrection against the United States.

Fuck him, throw away the key, he trained for this, knew what he was doing and is now crying because he got caught.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
18. Awwwww .... call the waaaaaambulance!
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:07 AM
Mar 2021
https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/oath-keeper-who-stormed-capitol-is-struggling-to-cope-because-hes-a-family-man-with-no-previous-experience-being-jailed-lawyers-claim/

Lawyer for Young filed a motion on Monday seeking to have the initial bond ruling vacated, arguing that the Government lacked sufficient evidence to hold Young on the charges. They cited to his “strong character” and the “psychological burdens” Young has endured as a result of his first-ever jailing as reasons why he should be released.

“The psychological burdens of being detained pending trial are very real for Mr. Young. Since he has no previous experience with the criminal justice system, being detained is taking an extremely high toll on his mental well-being,” the motion stated. “Prior to being detained, Mr. Young was a mentally strong and stable person with no history of mental disorders. His current emotional and psychological state is owing entirely to the fact that he has been detained and is unable to rely upon his normal social support systems. Because he is such a strong family man, locking him up away from his wife and children with the prospect of an extremely long period of time before trial is even scheduled is causing potentially irreparable psychological and emotional damage to Mr. Young.”

Young’s attorneys also claimed that deleting his Facebook page—where he posted photos and videos of the siege—did not amount to obstruction of justice because he was unaware that the FBI had opened an active investigation into him personally.


Poor widdle baby ... so hard to get in trouble for playing insurgent soldier ...

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
19. First ever insurrection gets you first ever jailing.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:08 AM
Mar 2021

Seems fair.

Shit got real, eh? Not the same as hut hutting during your paintball games, eh?

struggle4progress

(118,309 posts)
20. "He just happened to be at the Capitol dressed in battle gear when suddenly
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:11 AM
Mar 2021

he was somehow innocently swept into the building after people started smashing windows, looting, and looking for people to kill"

wnylib

(21,505 posts)
33. A family man thinks about his family and the
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:24 AM
Mar 2021

effects of his actions on them befote he does somethong as reckless and violent as attacking the Capitol to take captives for exrcution. A family man thinks about the example he is setting for his family with his actions.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
31. On the Southern Border Customs has standing orders to throw the book
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:45 AM
Mar 2021

at anyone who has wears a uniform ( law enforcement or military). Where a civilian might get a pass or booked and release those with a uniform are going to be booked without bail until a hearing, no leniency; they took an oath to a higher standard.

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
26. It is shocking to me that his lawyer thinks this is a valid argument
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:10 AM
Mar 2021

I never hear lawyers of POC suggest such an asinine argument. Hmmmmm, I wonder why.....

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
28. after the new's today.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:32 AM
Mar 2021

after the new's today ,he might have a lot more deep shit to worry about. seem's like there might sedition charges added on & that could mean a whole buch of jail time & there might be no v.a. benefits any more if congress get's way. 400+ people are deep shit now. wonder if it was worth it for drumpf ?

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
30. These are probably the same who say the police officer is always right and if he's not
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:39 AM
Mar 2021

sort it out in court. Not taking into account taking in some poor person on "looking suspicious" makes them even poorer from needing an attorney, bail, not being able to get to a low wage job, etc. But now this guy is suffering hardship for being positively identified committing sedition. Poor guy.

PatrickforB

(14,582 posts)
32. Damn! Two things:
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 01:46 AM
Mar 2021

1. He should have thought of that before aiding Trump in attempting the coup.

2. How come no one worries about the 'psychological burdens' black people endure at the hands of police?

Vinca

(50,285 posts)
35. He'd better learn to cope with his "psychological burdens" because he could be looking at
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:40 AM
Mar 2021

decades in jail. Hope the attorney doesn't think this garners sympathy for his/her client.

onethatcares

(16,174 posts)
36. Mister Young
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:54 AM
Mar 2021

is going to get really Old very quickly.

He should thank his lucky stars he wasn't a POC selling individual cigarettes on a New York street corner.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
38. He was just obeying his beloved fascist leader's orders
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:06 AM
Mar 2021

to storm the Capitol, and overthrow the government, so that Dear Leader could be appointed permanent dictator of the United States.

The country would be saved.

After Speaker Pelosi and VP Pence were executed, and Congress was in custody of the insurrectionists, he would go down in history as an exalted hero-patriot of the glorious fascist revolution, *1776* that would finally end democracy in the United States, forever.

Dear Leader would even give him a "Medal Of Freedom", and he would stand alongside that other great patriot fascist hero of the revolution, Rush Limbaugh.

Alas, the fascist social media created fantasy of a coup to install Dear Leader as dictator failed. But all powerful Dear Leader would swoop in and save him, and the other brave patriots, who fought so valiantly for him.

In jail, deprived of, and withdrawing from, the cocaine like addictive assurance and support of the wacko fascist social media rage universe, he began to think it might be all bullshit, and that maybe he had ruined his life due to his unfailing love and worship of Dear Leader. No this can't be true.

He is confused. He is a good man. A family man, a patriot. He was only following the orders of his infallible President.

He did nothing wrong; he is a hero. He was fighting for freedom. He was willing to die for Dear Leader. Why are they keeping him in jail?

He has to get out. How can he save the country, and serve Dear Leader, from the heathen commie liberals if he is jail?

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