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Oath Keeper Who Stormed Capitol Is Struggling to Cope Because Hes a Family Man with No Previous Experience Being Jailed, Lawyers Claim
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8:06 PM · Mar 22, 2021
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n the Second Superseding Indictment filed earlier this month in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the government alleged that on Jan. 6, Young and nine other members of the Oath Keepers planned with each other, and with others known and unknown, to forcibly enter the Capitol in order to stop, delay, and hinder the Congressional proceedings occurring that day.
The group, which includes Kelly Meggs, Connie Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Thomas Caldwell, Donovan Crowl, Jessica Watkins, Sandra Parker, Bennie Parker, and Laura Steele, are alleged to have prepared themselves for battle before heading to the Capitol by equipping themselves with communication devices and donning reinforced vests, helmets, and goggles. They were charged with conspiracy, obstructing official government proceedings, destruction of government property, and trespassing.
Young, who served in the U.S. Navy Reserve for seven years, was also charged with the corrupt destruction of evidence for deleting his Facebook account in the days following the Capitol siege.
Lawyer for Young filed a motion on Monday seeking to have the initial bond ruling vacated, arguing that the Government lacked sufficient evidence to hold Young on the charges. They cited to his strong character and the psychological burdens Young has endured as a result of his first-ever jailing as reasons why he should be released.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)bdamomma
(63,893 posts)fucking bad.
GP6971
(31,174 posts)they have to face the music for their actions. Then they fold like the wimps that they are.
sop
(10,208 posts)attacking the US Capitol would go unpunished.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)If they let him out on bail, he would start crying to have the charges dropped.
No. Bail.
Solly Mack
(90,775 posts)The second time ain't so hot either.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,050 posts)With the penal system is hard. Never is awesome.
Solly Mack
(90,775 posts)WA-03 Democrat
(3,050 posts)Negative stars I would! Avoid this place like the plague.
Solly Mack
(90,775 posts)Though I must admit to getting good grub while in holding. From a local mom and pop place. Delicious.
Johnny2X2X
(19,074 posts)Zero doubt he would have helped murder women and the elderly in the Capitol if he could have gotten his hands on them.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)It is not difficult to understand.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Demobrat
(8,983 posts)What a whiny little baby. Bet he wasnt psychologically burdened when he was dressing up to go play revolutionary. Bet he was feeling like a master of the universe right about then.
Sometimes youre the windshield, sometimes youre the bug.
bottomofthehill
(8,336 posts)Get used to being in jail. You should be there a long time. Navy Reserve, you took an oath, you dishonored the oath, you tried to take down a democratically elected President. Hopefully when you get out after a lengthy lock up, you will be and go right back in to a military brig you walking, talking piece of garbage.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,336 posts)He invited his sister to join him in an armed insurrection against the United States.
Fuck him, throw away the key, he trained for this, knew what he was doing and is now crying because he got caught.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)The psychological burdens of being detained pending trial are very real for Mr. Young. Since he has no previous experience with the criminal justice system, being detained is taking an extremely high toll on his mental well-being, the motion stated. Prior to being detained, Mr. Young was a mentally strong and stable person with no history of mental disorders. His current emotional and psychological state is owing entirely to the fact that he has been detained and is unable to rely upon his normal social support systems. Because he is such a strong family man, locking him up away from his wife and children with the prospect of an extremely long period of time before trial is even scheduled is causing potentially irreparable psychological and emotional damage to Mr. Young.
Youngs attorneys also claimed that deleting his Facebook pagewhere he posted photos and videos of the siegedid not amount to obstruction of justice because he was unaware that the FBI had opened an active investigation into him personally.
Poor widdle baby ... so hard to get in trouble for playing insurgent soldier ...
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Seems fair.
Shit got real, eh? Not the same as hut hutting during your paintball games, eh?
struggle4progress
(118,309 posts)he was somehow innocently swept into the building after people started smashing windows, looting, and looking for people to kill"
arkielib
(118 posts)Boo freaking Hoo. What exactly about this idiot makes him a "family man?"
wnylib
(21,505 posts)effects of his actions on them befote he does somethong as reckless and violent as attacking the Capitol to take captives for exrcution. A family man thinks about the example he is setting for his family with his actions.
rpannier
(24,330 posts)Then he went through Naval Basic Training
He'll be fine
grantcart
(53,061 posts)at anyone who has wears a uniform ( law enforcement or military). Where a civilian might get a pass or booked and release those with a uniform are going to be booked without bail until a hearing, no leniency; they took an oath to a higher standard.
NBachers
(17,126 posts)I want to hear his attorney plead that before the judge
Rhiannon12866
(205,580 posts)Mickju
(1,803 posts)FlyingPiggy
(3,384 posts)I never hear lawyers of POC suggest such an asinine argument. Hmmmmm, I wonder why.....
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)after the new's today ,he might have a lot more deep shit to worry about. seem's like there might sedition charges added on & that could mean a whole buch of jail time & there might be no v.a. benefits any more if congress get's way. 400+ people are deep shit now. wonder if it was worth it for drumpf ?
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)sort it out in court. Not taking into account taking in some poor person on "looking suspicious" makes them even poorer from needing an attorney, bail, not being able to get to a low wage job, etc. But now this guy is suffering hardship for being positively identified committing sedition. Poor guy.
PatrickforB
(14,582 posts)1. He should have thought of that before aiding Trump in attempting the coup.
2. How come no one worries about the 'psychological burdens' black people endure at the hands of police?
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Vinca
(50,285 posts)decades in jail. Hope the attorney doesn't think this garners sympathy for his/her client.
onethatcares
(16,174 posts)is going to get really Old very quickly.
He should thank his lucky stars he wasn't a POC selling individual cigarettes on a New York street corner.
Takket
(21,582 posts)Hell get used to it.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)to storm the Capitol, and overthrow the government, so that Dear Leader could be appointed permanent dictator of the United States.
The country would be saved.
After Speaker Pelosi and VP Pence were executed, and Congress was in custody of the insurrectionists, he would go down in history as an exalted hero-patriot of the glorious fascist revolution, *1776* that would finally end democracy in the United States, forever.
Dear Leader would even give him a "Medal Of Freedom", and he would stand alongside that other great patriot fascist hero of the revolution, Rush Limbaugh.
Alas, the fascist social media created fantasy of a coup to install Dear Leader as dictator failed. But all powerful Dear Leader would swoop in and save him, and the other brave patriots, who fought so valiantly for him.
In jail, deprived of, and withdrawing from, the cocaine like addictive assurance and support of the wacko fascist social media rage universe, he began to think it might be all bullshit, and that maybe he had ruined his life due to his unfailing love and worship of Dear Leader. No this can't be true.
He is confused. He is a good man. A family man, a patriot. He was only following the orders of his infallible President.
He did nothing wrong; he is a hero. He was fighting for freedom. He was willing to die for Dear Leader. Why are they keeping him in jail?
He has to get out. How can he save the country, and serve Dear Leader, from the heathen commie liberals if he is jail?