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Mike Nelson
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When your fuck up is literally big enough to be seen from space
Dr. Jeffrey Lewis
@ArmsControlWonk
Welp. There it is.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)MissB
(15,810 posts)NYT article yesterday said that the crude oil stuck on the route alone was equivalent to one days use.
Itll back up an already backed up shipping situation. I just cant imagine.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)For some reason I missed updates about this situation.
I thought it would get unstuck soon. Didn't even consider it was backing up the entire shipping system.
Thanks for the update!
StClone
(11,684 posts)So he took up all the spaces with this parking job. Hope somebody "keys" it.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)What I don't know is: Is there a "downstream" in the canal? If the gulf is at the same altitude as the Mediterranean, then there would be no flow, eh?
Kaleva
(36,311 posts)There are no locks on the canal.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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Wikipedia: Suez Canal
The water level rises and falls with the tide, so efforts to free the Ever Given are timed to account for that.
captain queeg
(10,208 posts)Then pump water into the enclosed area. It might come to that. Be a huge expense but tying up that amount of shipping is intolerable.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Leave the ship there as a museum celebrating stupidity.
Beakybird
(3,333 posts)The same principles are involved.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)...they cant just back up two really big container ships to the southern end of the obstacle, tie on ropes and nail the gas.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)Seems like the stern could be pulled back and towards the center of the channel, the bow is probably deep into the sand.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)It's a mess
Darwins_Retriever
(853 posts)to see where the ship has been and where each container was picked up.
chowder66
(9,073 posts)Wasn't it high winds and a sandstorm that caused this?
BComplex
(8,053 posts)and turned the ship sharply.
But don't worry! There's no climate change involved in these types of winds!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)But yeah wind didnt help
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It got sideways to its route, and from what I've seen, has chunked into the bank both fore and aft. I haven't seen a report about damage to the ship, but the frame of the ship has almost certainly been at least tweaked, and quite possibly compromised. Without a thorough inspection, the extent of damage is still an open question. Moving it might break the ship apart, and then there would be a helluva mess that could take months to clear.
My totally uninformed opinion is to mobilize every land and sea transport in the area, and start offloading the cargo. It's a huge logistical undertaking, but dealing with that fully-loaded ship is a knotty problem in any event. Lightening the load might help.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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World Suezmax Fleet Counts 514 Vessels
The total delivery during 2018 was 28 vessels, said a report by the international tanker company.
"For 2019 we expect a similar number of vessels as in 2018, and in 2020 we currently see 22 vessels scheduled for delivery. During 2018, 21 Suezmax vessels were scrapped," it said.
The general characteristics of a Suezmax vessel are
Tonnage: typically 160,000 DWT
Length: 400 m (1,300 ft) (maximum)
Beam: 50 m (164 ft) (maximum)
Height: 68 m (223 ft) (maximum)
Draft: 20.1 m (66 ft) (maximum)
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Standard or exceptional, these things are BIG.
Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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Capesize Bulkers Connect 121 Ports in 31 Countries
Bantamfancier
(366 posts)But counting the end zones a field is 360 feet long.
1,300 feet is about 3.6 fields long.
Thats still a big a** ship.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)as I demonstrated in a post yesterday.
And I definitely know nothing about boating/shipping.
That said, for those suggesting the removal of cargo. . .
I saw on a YouTube video (so it must be true) that this ship has 20,000 TEU. That's the equivalent of 20,000 20' containers.
Did a Google search on the max capacity of a 20' container, which is 56,000 pounds. https://www.icontainers.com/help/20-foot-container/#:~:text=A%2020-foot%20container%E2%80%99s%20unloaded%20weight%20is%202,300%20kg,the%20cargo%20and%20specific%20details%20of%20the%20shipment.
So 20,000 20' containers @ 56,000 pounds each = 1,120,000,000 pounds.
No cranes in sight. Maybe there's a giant ship with crane(s) to unload the containers. Here's one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSCV_Thialf
Maybe it fits in the canal? Maybe not.
I imagine shipping companies worldwide are in a tizzy. What to do? Wait? For how long? Bite the bullet and take the long way around? Fuel cost. And delay?
And then there are the companies expecting deliveries. We can joke that maybe we don't really need all the junk from --fill in the blank--. But there's likely to be food, raw materials for companies worldwide, stuff that is really needed. The knock-on impact is likely to considerable.