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taxi

(1,896 posts)
2. A number of them will or will not embrace this or any policy.
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 07:49 AM
Mar 2021

For far too long groups of hateful people had tacit approval to express their hatred through violence. It's about time they grew up and learned that there are things in everyone's life that are disliked. Do something with all that energy, go outside and play, clean your room, do something.

mopinko

(70,213 posts)
5. even among conservative men,
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 09:10 AM
Mar 2021

i think hitting women is a line that some think only cowards and assholes cross.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
8. Among some conservative men. It is a line among some -- make that "few" conservative men.
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 09:29 AM
Mar 2021

Just ask Charlotte Fedders*. Conservative men been beating the snot out of their spouses for decades but only recently have they begun to get called out for it.


*She went public with the horrible beatings and death threats she received from husband John, Reagans first SEC Chief. She wrote a book about it, a TV movie was made about. Fedders was fired and, though a competent financial mind, couldn’t find work and, in the best and most gratifying example of Karma, had to sue his ex-wife for alimony! Charlotte won but only after suffering this sadists criminal treatment for 15 years.

And, yes, John Fedders was a wife beating coward and a psychopath. See also Rob Porter.

mopinko

(70,213 posts)
9. oh, i realize the worst of the worst is on the other side of that line.
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 09:34 AM
Mar 2021

fundies and cops are the worst, imho.

i would be curious what the REAL percentages are.
i think most of those who wouldnt cross that line have a similar opinion of those that do.

RVN VET71

(2,697 posts)
11. Hard to get the actual stats since the women are often terrified to speak out
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 05:46 PM
Mar 2021

I doubt that a great percentage of these conservative “men” actual are women beaters -- but I believe that most can pal around with, and share beers with, those who are. It’s not a line they cross themselves, but neither is it one they get particularly upset about others crossing.

Maybe I’m over-reacting to the subject which, frankly, disgusts me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Gender and sexual identification were added to our federal hate crimes law
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 08:03 AM
Mar 2021

under President Obama, but I guess only some states. FL is considering adding gender to its hate crimes law.

You're right of course about the GOP harnessing the anxiety of those men who're threatened and angered by women's growing equality. It's a big motivator. These days everything and anything arising from the worst of human nature is put to use in the Republicans' populist subversions.

Scrivener7

(51,004 posts)
4. This is very true. And latinos tend to be very Catholic, therefore a ripe field for this.
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 08:40 AM
Mar 2021

We already saw the beginnings of this in the 2020 election.

Elessar Zappa

(14,047 posts)
7. The Latino vote
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 09:12 AM
Mar 2021

went up for Trump in Texas and Florida but stayed the same in New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Illinois. So most Latinos still aren't switching to the Repubs. We do need to stop the Repub Latino gains in the two southern states though.

Irish_Dem

(47,388 posts)
10. Violence towards women is normal and highly habituated around the world.
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 02:01 PM
Mar 2021

It may not even be a conscious thing with men.

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