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turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:36 AM Mar 2021

Ammon Bundy has amassed an army of over 50,000 as he looks for his next battle in a religious war

By History News Network
Published March 29, 2021

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Ammon Bundy, right-wing malcontent behind the 2016 armed takeover of Oregon's Malheur Wildlife Refuge and now a western anti-mask movement, believes he's doing God's work.

Coming from a long line of religiously inspired men who have been "called" to defend the US Constitution, Bundy has varied in his focus, from rebelling against public land ranching regulations to protesting COVID-19 safety protocols. But in his view, these are all forms of government tyranny and affronts to constitutional rights. Arrested for the fourth time on March 15, 2021, Bundy was taken into custody for failing to appear at his hearing on past trespassing charges. Because he refused to wear a mask into the courtroom, thereby missing his trial, he was apprehended outside amid of a throng of other protesters.

Bundy's crusade has been a long time in the making, but in the last year he successfully established a coalition of supporters that is broad, diverse, and a serious threat to federal law. His group is called the People's Rights Network. Like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, it includes members who see the current government as a threat to perceived rights and are committed to defend their ideas of personal liberty, by force if necessary.

Betsy Gaines Quammen, PhD is the author of American Zion: Cliven Bundy, God and Public Lands in the West.

https://www.rawstory.com/ammon-bundy/

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Ammon Bundy has amassed an army of over 50,000 as he looks for his next battle in a religious war (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2021 OP
Why are so many Bundies so unloveable: Ted, Al, Craven, Ammonia...? lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #1
It amazes me how COVID kills people protecting themselves but completely bypasses assholes like him. LonePirate Mar 2021 #2
seems to be true samsingh Mar 2021 #3
They're too putrid for even the covid virus wnylib Mar 2021 #5
A religious war? Against the United States? Under The Radar Mar 2021 #4
Please, folks. Do NOT believe that Bundy amassed an army of 50k. That's nonsense. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2021 #6
Thank you for point that out. I was just going to post the same theme. msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #8
+1 This n/t FSogol Mar 2021 #9
+1000 MineralMan Mar 2021 #11
Agree! And..what ever cult members he has signed on, look at the photo PortTack Mar 2021 #13
With Raw Story, i tend to ignore the verbs and adjectives in the headline. Iggo Mar 2021 #14
+1000! Mme. Defarge Mar 2021 #15
Hence why I no longer click on Raw Story articles. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #18
But how many do they actually need? BGBD Mar 2021 #22
Okay so they claim 50,000 supporters underpants Mar 2021 #7
LOL, He has 50k people who will send him boxtops. That's hardly an army. n/t FSogol Mar 2021 #10
This "Army" Is a Figment of Rawstory's Imagination MineralMan Mar 2021 #12
More like 50k subscribers to his newsletter. Iggo Mar 2021 #16
Impressive collection of plastic green toy soldiers? n/t NotASurfer Mar 2021 #17
cnn had this investigative report on a couple of weeks ago during Don Lemon's show: IcyPeas Mar 2021 #19
I doubt he has 50,000, but he had enough armed men to back down Federal Law Enforcement. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #20
. dalton99a Mar 2021 #21

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
6. Please, folks. Do NOT believe that Bundy amassed an army of 50k. That's nonsense.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:59 AM
Mar 2021

Bundy has a mailing list. He has "supporters", but he doesn't have an army. RawStory provides a lot of news, some of it well sourced, but not all the time. There is NOT an army of 50k. This article was published by History News Network, not AP, not CNN, not WP...
and the number comes from... Bundy's own network. It's not an independent, verifiable source. AND... there are no indications that any kind of army has been formed. None. It's all made up.

RawStory sometimes prints stuff that can cause needless worry and anxiety. This is one of them.

msfiddlestix

(7,285 posts)
8. Thank you for point that out. I was just going to post the same theme.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:04 AM
Mar 2021

It astounds me to see articles like this posted here.

There's ample enough to be seriously concerned about, and brazen white supremacist militia groups are certainly one of them. but we don't need inflated numbers of actual support defined as an army.

PortTack

(32,787 posts)
13. Agree! And..what ever cult members he has signed on, look at the photo
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:25 AM
Mar 2021

Military hardened, trained..laughable!

What comes to mind is his rant after taking over a federal bldg in OR, we’re here until the end, even if it means our death. Just a few days in they were calling for ppl to bring them supplies...especially toilet paper??!! Really you’re rough and ready, but can’t do without TP??!!

Iggo

(47,564 posts)
14. With Raw Story, i tend to ignore the verbs and adjectives in the headline.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:38 AM
Mar 2021

Then I read the story. It almost never matches up to the sensationalistic language in the headline. There are no bombshells. No one gets demolished, destroyed, or burnt down. For the most part, it’s just little blurbs about news they grabbed from somewhere else.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
22. But how many do they actually need?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 03:12 PM
Mar 2021

A group of 50 people could cause unimaginable chaos in a US city. For evidence look at what happened during the sniper attacks in DC and LA. In those cases one or two people had an entire city in panic-mode. Imagine that times 10 with bombs going off as well.

underpants

(182,868 posts)
7. Okay so they claim 50,000 supporters
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 11:01 AM
Mar 2021

They may well have a lot of supporters but that number could very well be a means of recruiting- nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd.

IcyPeas

(21,901 posts)
19. cnn had this investigative report on a couple of weeks ago during Don Lemon's show:
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:37 PM
Mar 2021

(6:00 minutes long)

Bundy's group even have an App to organize people for different "gatherings". I found this report quite frightening.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/03/20/ammon-bundy-group-movement-santoro-pkg-ctn-vpx.cnn

Midnight Writer

(21,788 posts)
20. I doubt he has 50,000, but he had enough armed men to back down Federal Law Enforcement.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

I'll never forget seeing those fuckers with their guns trained on the Feds, and the Feds basically saying "Never mind. Sorry to have bothered you, Mr. Bundy."

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