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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Feds looking beyond Florida in investigation of Rep. Gaetz, sources say
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/feds-florida-investigation-rep-gaetz-sources/story?id=76796794
malaise
(269,187 posts)You reap what you sow
TheBlackAdder
(28,222 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)I hope they get everyone.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I wouldn't trust any story coming from him.
About anything.
stopdiggin
(11,372 posts)was on Maddow saying that while extortion 'might' be true (thereby giving it some oxygen) -- the thrust of the investigation was far earlier -- and with a focus on different offenses.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)are just distractions until proven otherwise."
He is just trying to muddy the water and I am having none of it.
I don't trust pedophiles or republicans. Not one word they say about anything is to be believed.
stopdiggin
(11,372 posts)And the reporter was only allowing (without knowledge) that BOTH could be true.
(i.e. -- nobody in the room thinks Matt Gaetz is anything less than a complete skuzz-bucket -- and most likely a criminal.)
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)girl from a woman. Some girls that are 16 and 17 can act mature sexually, so if a man doesnt use his big head instead of letting the little head take over, he can get involved in a one-off situation with an underaged person. When I think pedophile, I think a person that KNOWS that a person is underaged and goes ahead with the act anyway. I dont think that 16 or 17 year olds have the mentality for adulthood, heck 18, 19 and 20 year olds frequently dont, that is why, even beyond the moral aspects of it, an adult should not get involved with them sexually. Adults can work with them as mentors (non sexual).
COL Mustard
(5,929 posts)Gaetz and 17 year old woman and thrust in the same paragraph......
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)COL Mustard
(5,929 posts)As a 17-year old woman.
I agree, at that age they're girls and boys.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)stopdiggin
(11,372 posts)but I take your meaning 100%.
(a very ugly picture .. no matter what verbiage is employed .. so much so that I hate entertaining thoughts ...)
WhiteTara
(29,722 posts)They are blatantly biased and root for the traitors and have had at least since *co.
stopdiggin
(11,372 posts)either this thread (other than the fact that it was the Times and their reporting that broke the story) -- or the essence of what the reporter had to say on Maddow -- which consisted of "perhaps -- but here's why it doesn't matter .."
DrToast
(6,414 posts)Its in the article.
Boydog
(718 posts)COL Mustard
(5,929 posts)I hope I spelled that right. My German is rusty.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)The difference between a jerk and an asshole, is that an asshole means it.
dawg day
(7,947 posts).
. And it is someone who quit the DOJ 15 years ago... unlikely. None of it sounds plausible except that Goetz would groom minors..
Remember his "adopted" teen "son"?
Botany
(70,589 posts)n/t
dawg day
(7,947 posts)mcgee. Said that daddy Gaetz contacted him, pleasant conversation... and the supposed extorters were someone else. And no one promised to drop the case or anything. Weird, but happened last month, long after the investigation started.
qanda
(10,422 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Also, when an attorney that represents a person reaches out to gauge the desire for a non public, that is not extortion.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)Limbaugh, Epstein, Dersh, Trump... who else?
Moostache
(9,897 posts)The Evangelical crowd of Pharisees and Sadducees is stuffed to the gilled with sexual behavior that they themselves claim to abhor...
Personally, outside of rape and child abuse or direct harm to another against their will, I do not give a shit about anyone's sexual life but my wife and myself. While some find marriage a restrictive covenant, I find it very freeing to be in a committed marriage and only in need of concerning myself with one other person's sexual fulfillment; however, like I said...to each their own within the boundaries.
These GQP perverts and criminals are very high and mighty and judgmental of all non-binary heterosexual acts IN THEORY...IN REALITY? Not so much...
At least it is consistent with their fucked up world view - "More for me, and none for thee"; which is true of all things...money, security, food, sex...just a disgusting bunch of people to their cores.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)magicarpet
(14,175 posts)Bye bye.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)Yowsa. Your GQP family values at work.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)age becomes 18 regardless of individual states' age of consent (which is 16 or 17 in most of the south) if they want to charge him with sex trafficking.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She simply doesnt have the character or ethics to bring down a potential republican criminal that has political connections and wealth on his side.
FBaggins
(26,760 posts)There has to have been more than one state involved (at least allegedly) for the feds to be involved in the first place.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:44 AM - Edit history (1)
... the law for trafficking minors means don't take anyone under 19 anywhere without their parents knowing first.
FBaggins
(26,760 posts)... then more than one state is involved.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... same state like California, for instance, to get the feds involved.
If the under age person is paid with a ticket or anything of value to travel with the adult for sexual favors or some shit.
Get parents consent first is what all that sounds like
FBaggins
(26,760 posts)But Im pretty sure that someone has to cross state lines for the feds to have jurisdiction.
Now... I suppose that could include international travel... but this would still make the title a big duh.
mzmolly
(51,006 posts)of what Matt Gaetz is being investigated for.
Hmmmm.
MontanaMama
(23,337 posts)As soon as the accusations fly, look no further than the GQP accusers.
mzmolly
(51,006 posts)They're a shady bunch.
JI7
(89,276 posts)THEY are the ones who are full of sexual abusers and other criminals . So they point the finger at others accusing others of what they are guilty of.
Trump always does that also.
agree.
One only has to look at how vivid their accounts are. A normal person doesnt think about stuff like that, QANON does, 24/7.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Shocking!
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I know a 19 year old who went to prison for sexting with a 16year old.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A person that likely didnt have resources or anyone with power on his side. That palid doorknob would not bring herself, in a million years, to take on a person that has the state level political connections and family wealth that Gaetz has.
FlyingPiggy
(3,384 posts)It would not surprise me one bit if he was involved in an extensive human trafficking ring to include children.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)Maybe now would be a really good time to go back on teevee and run your mouth some more? /s
keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)$25 million? Does his family have that much loose cash?
Sounds big enough to be a hoax number.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The dad left politics and co-founded an elder services company, got Medicare and Medicaid to pay for the services, grew the company and then sold it. The dads share of the sale was like $250 million+.
I believe that I read that the dad is now heading the ~$350 million Deep Water Horizon damage recovery fund, that is on top of running an elder housing company that provides managed care for elders (eating at the Medicare and Medicaid trough again). Republicans sure hate big government, that is when they cant stuff their pockets from big government payouts.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)A legal expert on MSNBC said perhaps the lawyer Gaetz says was extorting him was actually the girl's lawyer offering to settle a civil suit before she filed it.
The legal expert said that is perfectly legal to do, is not extortion in any way, and is not related to Gaetz possible crimes.
gibraltar72
(7,512 posts)Would you believe that??
NBachers
(17,146 posts)Bristlecone
(10,135 posts)His lifelong privilege has him thinking he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants. No consequences. That really is what trumpism is all about.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,234 posts)riversedge
(70,310 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The age of consent for a female to have sex with a male older than 19 years old in Florida is 18 years old, not one minute younger than that.
But dont expect the total waste of an AG that Florida has to drag his ass into Court. So the FEDs will have to do the lifting on this one.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Florida AG wont. She is more likely to run from such a case.