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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:32 AM Oct 2012

ALERT: ROVEs American CrossRoads & FIRED Consultant's SPROULs Strategic Alliance-Share SAME Address!

ALERT: Roves American CrossRoads & FIRED Consultant's SPROUL'S Strategic Alliance Share The SAME Address



45 North Hills Drive
Suite 100
Warrenton, VA 20186



THIS CONNECTS Nathan Sproul and Strategic Allied Consulting to the Ed Gillespie and Karl Rove "American Crossroads" 527.


Looks like Karl Rove has a hand in running (and funding) Nathan Sproul's black ops this election year. Much like Rove has done since 2000.

From A DOCUMENT DUMP IN FLORIDA:
http://forms.irs.gov/politicalOrgsSearch/search/Print.action?formId=50983&formType=E71
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/sites/tampabay.com.blogs.the-buzz-florida-politics/files/elections_fraud_complaint_strategic_allied_consultants1.pdf



UPDATE:
The Googles says that address is a law office:
http://www.hvjlaw.com/contact/
HoltzmanVogelJosefiak PLLC provides counseling and compliance services to individuals, corporations, non-profit organizations, trade associations, PACs, Super PACs and candidates who are engaged in influencing the public policy arena in Washington and across the nation.

UPDATE II:
Jill Holtzman Vogel (born July 6, 1970, in Roanoke, Virginia) is an American politician. A Republican, she was elected to the Senate of Virginia in 2007. She currently represents the 27th district in the northern part of the state, consisting of Clarke and Frederick Counties, the city of Winchester, and parts of Fauquier and Loudoun Counties.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Holtzman_Vogel
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ALERT: ROVEs American CrossRoads & FIRED Consultant's SPROULs Strategic Alliance-Share SAME Address! (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
What did you expect? Cheaters to just give up? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #1
Sprouling Central? Coyotl Oct 2012 #16
Do we get to arrest the bastard now? BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #2
Don't see anything illegal in that but it sure as hell doesn't LOOK good, does it? randome Oct 2012 #3
They are driving the get away car but they arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #32
not at all surprised. barbtries Oct 2012 #4
Rove belongs in jail, not Don Siegelman. Octafish Oct 2012 #5
What are the chances we'll see this in the MSM? Slim and none? nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #6
Holy Ffacting Shite! malaise Oct 2012 #7
If we can't get Rove tried and convicted, Mc Mike Oct 2012 #8
How about femrap Oct 2012 #21
I'm not picky. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #52
It's a conspiracy to overthrow the Republic. bluedigger Oct 2012 #9
Everyone who thinks 'business will go on as usual' are in denial. freshwest Oct 2012 #48
Gee, no one could have predicted that. Scuba Oct 2012 #10
Well, I know I'm shocked. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #36
Anyone got any smelling salts? dchill Oct 2012 #45
Sleazeball illegal Republican skullduggery Berlum Oct 2012 #11
because they have been marginalized maindawg Oct 2012 #14
Is there any question that there is a covert dirty tricks campaign going on? Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #12
civil rights violation, isn't it? grasswire Oct 2012 #42
It doesn't get any more blatant SJMULE Oct 2012 #13
Nathan Sproul thinks he's doing 'God's Work' LynneSin Oct 2012 #15
That is the really scary part AgingAmerican Oct 2012 #20
+1,000!!! nt femrap Oct 2012 #23
Beyond a shadow of a doubt defacto7 Oct 2012 #34
Nothing to See Hear! chuckstevens Oct 2012 #17
May want to check your use of lonestarnot Oct 2012 #22
And on a similar note Wednesdays Oct 2012 #44
I always thought druidity33 Oct 2012 #53
Fitzgerald femrap Oct 2012 #24
Good catch! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #18
Someone needs to find out if they share the same office at the address. Raine1967 Oct 2012 #19
please do kpete Oct 2012 #25
The dumped documents both say "suite 100." nt tpsbmam Oct 2012 #55
This is what happens when terrorists are left orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #26
Cmon now, everyone knows skydive forever Oct 2012 #27
BUSTED!!!!!!! mfcorey1 Oct 2012 #28
If there's an election to be stolen KKKarl Rove has his hands in it. notadmblnd Oct 2012 #29
These crooks have crowded my always Dem mailbox this week with stuff AllyCat Oct 2012 #30
2 things Livluvgrow Oct 2012 #31
Elder Bush GAVE Rove his start back in '88, ad I benld74 Oct 2012 #33
it is very obvious Rove should be arrested glinda Oct 2012 #35
I'm sure Attorney General Eric Holder will get right on this.... bvar22 Oct 2012 #37
Rove is like a addicted gambler lovuian Oct 2012 #38
Karl Rove is involved? colbertforpresident Oct 2012 #39
I'd like it if they would quit Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #40
K&R n/t Lugnut Oct 2012 #41
Karl Rove is a fat bastard. sevenseas Oct 2012 #43
ANYTHING involving black ops has kkkarl rove's hand in it. That's his style. calimary Oct 2012 #46
Interesting. Did you email this info to Shultz and Maddow? TrollBuster9090 Oct 2012 #47
Agreed. Maddow/staff would be awesome on this emulatorloo Oct 2012 #49
When will the turd stop blossoming? Blue Owl Oct 2012 #50
Traitorous criminals. They should all be in jail. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #51
Bush Cheney 04 paid Sproul 10 million $s and another million for his help ... Botany Oct 2012 #54
KICK with some extra information: Raine1967 Oct 2012 #56
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. Sprouling Central?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oct 2012

Sprouling, new verb
The transitive verb "to sproul" refers to obtaining and then destroying the voter registrations of political opponents. The neologism is also used as a general term for any illegal action to suppress opposition voter registration.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
2. Do we get to arrest the bastard now?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

He is so overdue for his perp walk. Thanks for the post. Somehow I knew this was the truth.

Calling Eric Holder! Okay, ANYONE in the Justice Department who will take this on!

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
4. not at all surprised.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:44 AM
Oct 2012

they must be breaking laws right and left. can somebody please investigate and prosecute these anti american anti democracy motherfuckers?!

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
14. because they have been marginalized
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:35 AM
Oct 2012

They are minority. They have to cheat,lie ,steal or they are irrelevant. They are criminals.The justice department will take action after the election unless they are successful in which case....

And this why good people wish to leave this country for the one up north. But if this country falls again to the despots, the one up north is next .....,

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
12. Is there any question that there is a covert dirty tricks campaign going on?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

With the Florida Republican voter registrations frauds combined with polls that cannot possibly be happening?

 

SJMULE

(193 posts)
13. It doesn't get any more blatant
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:33 AM
Oct 2012

"democracy" at the barrel of a gun in the middle east.... while sabotaging real democracy at home. I think that is Chapter 1 of the GOP playbook.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. Nathan Sproul thinks he's doing 'God's Work'
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:42 AM
Oct 2012

And that it's some divine mission for him to do whatever it takes to get the GOP to win even if it's doing ungodly things like lying and cheating.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
20. That is the really scary part
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

The republicans believe their nationalism, greed, lack of compassion and talking points come directly from god. The republican party is a religious cult where money has replaced Jesus Christ as the main object of adulation. God help us if these weirdos win.






 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
17. Nothing to See Hear!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:48 AM
Oct 2012

Someone could produce an authentic video of Rove killing babies with his bare hands and I'm sure that the Republicans would obstruct any effort to bring this treasonous fuck to justice. Oh wait, I guess that would make the entire Republican House and Senate treasonous fucks as well!

If I had millions of dollars, I would literally give it all away, if it would make just one person turn over the goods on this sociopathic, scumbag!

Oh yeah, one more thing.... Patrick Fitzgerald: Fuck you; for being such a coward, for not nailing this guy when you had the chance!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
19. Someone needs to find out if they share the same office at the address.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

A lot of State reps share offices here in Virginia. It would not be uncommon for Ms. Vogel to use her law firm as a political office.

Jill Vogel is, BTW, the sponsor of out transvaginal Probe bill. She's a uber 'bagger.

Excellent find, and I will do more research on this if you don't mind.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
30. These crooks have crowded my always Dem mailbox this week with stuff
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

for the recycling bin. How can I stop them? How can we send them to jail?

Livluvgrow

(377 posts)
31. 2 things
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:43 PM
Oct 2012

Greed is their driver not god. They just pick the most gullible and easily duped for support. Secondly do you really think the justice department will do a damn thing about any of this. Paint me a cynic but I dont see them going after it.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
33. Elder Bush GAVE Rove his start back in '88, ad I
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

wouldn't be the least suprised if he still backs him to this day in one method or another.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. I'm sure Attorney General Eric Holder will get right on this....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:40 PM
Oct 2012

...just as soon as he finishes keeping America SAFE from the Medicinal Pot Smokers.

Priorities, people!




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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39. Karl Rove is involved?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:16 PM
Oct 2012

I'm shocked I tell ya! Just shocked! What in the name of Mike Connell is going on here!

calimary

(81,267 posts)
46. ANYTHING involving black ops has kkkarl rove's hand in it. That's his style.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:45 PM
Oct 2012

Guaranteed. That's his thing. He learned it at lee atwater's knee. Whatever was dirty play, he was into it. And he made it pay off for the vermin he worked for, to get them elected.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
47. Interesting. Did you email this info to Shultz and Maddow?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

I'm wondering: if there is a connection, will it jeopardize American Crossroads' tax exempt status as a 'charity,' and thus force Rove to disclose his donors' identities.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
51. Traitorous criminals. They should all be in jail.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:18 AM
Oct 2012

The fact that Rove is a free man just pisses me off to no end.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
54. Bush Cheney 04 paid Sproul 10 million $s and another million for his help ...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:56 AM
Oct 2012

.... in Ohio post election w/ the recount. The republicans and Rove knew exactly
who and what they were getting in hiring Sproul & Co. and whatever name they are
going under now.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
56. KICK with some extra information:
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:04 PM
Oct 2012

Thank to kpete and a few others here in this thread and elsewhere, It appears to me that this law firm is the heart of all voter disenfranchisement, as well as the *election* of Dubya and citizens united. One of their partners represents AFP. They DO share the same suite at that address, basically -- its seems like it's the same office.

American Crossroads, Strategic Allied Consulting, Americans for Prosperity -- all represented in the same suite.


However, the office in question also contains her law firm, one that is involved with navigating Super PAC rules and regulations, and in this case, it appears that somehow Mr. Sproul and his former firm Strategic Alliance are connected.

One could assume that Ms. Vogel and her firm were aware of this request. Particularly Ms. Vogel:

Jill Holtzman Vogel, Managing Partner Jill Holtzman Vogel specializes in ethics, campaign finance and tax exempt organizations. In addition to managing the firm, in February 2004, she was named Chief Counsel of the Republican National Committee. As counsel, she led the national party’s legal effort during the 2004 Presidential election. Prior to founding the practice, she served as Deputy Counsel at the Department of Energy, overseeing the transition and working with the White House, Energy Secretary Abraham, and other Federal Agencies to implement Energy initiatives. She previously served as Deputy Counsel at the Republican National Committee. During November and December of 2000, she was counsel in the Florida Presidential Recount, acting on behalf of the Bush-Cheney campaign in West Palm Beach and in Osceola County. She also served as staff counsel for the 1996 Republican National Convention in San Diego, California.



Jason Torchinsky is another partner at the firm.

In addition to his practice counseling clients on compliance with campaign finance, ethics laws, lobbying disclosure and election laws, Jason has served as lead counsel in a number of litigation matters. Representative matters in the redistricting area include Louisiana House of Representatives v. Holder (D.D.C.) (Section 5 pre-clearance action), City of Sandy Springs v. Holder (D.D.C.) (Section 5 bailout action), and Fletcher v. Lamone (D. Md.) (challenging Maryland’s Congressional Districting map). In the campaign finance context, he is currently representing clients in Alliance for America’s Future v. State (Nevada Supreme Court) and Van Hollen v. Federal Election Commission (D.D.C.) (Representing intervenor defendants). Jason has also represented Virginia candidates in recounts and voter registration challenges before various Virginia Circuit Courts.


Jason frequently lectures on campaign finance redistricting and ethics related subjects and provides commentary to the media on election related matters.

You know who else he represents? The Koch Brother funded Americans For Prosperity. "Torchinsky is a law partner at Holtzman Vogel PLLC. His fellow law partner at the firm is Tom Josefiak, a former Federal Elections Commission Chairman who was one of a group filing an Amicus in the Citizens United case."

Mr. Sproul is just the tip of an Iceberg that exists at 45 North Hill Drive, Suite 100, Warrenton, VA.



The entire post is here, and so are all the links. I have sent this info to Brad Friedman of BradBlog via Twitter. Sproul is a nasty guy, yes, but this law firm may be the very epicenter of GOP shenanigans.

(eta who I am trying to contact wrt to this)
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