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applegrove

(118,829 posts)
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:35 PM Apr 2021

Kemp Says Voters In Line Can Just Order Food

Kemp Says Voters In Line Can Just Order Food

April 8, 2021 at 8:50 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 161 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/04/08/kemp-says-voters-in-line-can-just-order-food/

"SNIP.....

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) said that voters waiting in line in Georgia could order food from Grubhub or UberEats after a new state law criminalized offers of free food and water near polling stations, the Huffington Post reports.

Said Kemp: “They can order a pizza. They can order Grubhub or UberEats, right?”

.....SNIP"

If ordering food and water is perfectly legal, why not just “sell” water and food to everyone in line for a penny?

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Kemp Says Voters In Line Can Just Order Food (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2021 OP
Okay. Let's focus on exactly how longer line ups in some districts "occur". N/T applegrove Apr 2021 #1
Yeah it is based on the assumption of waiting in line. underpants Apr 2021 #5
Exactly Midnightwalk Apr 2021 #12
So, I'm just going to order food and water from a friend. This law is ridiculous. jalan48 Apr 2021 #2
Plus it is the shiny thing that keeps us from talking about the outrage that applegrove Apr 2021 #4
You nailed it. That's what should be talked about. jalan48 Apr 2021 #6
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #17
So, he expects the voters to be on line for a very long time. patphil Apr 2021 #3
What's the difference between GrubHub delivering food and some stranger handing it out? LonePirate Apr 2021 #7
The logic is to do anything that makes the lines long in certain precincts. applegrove Apr 2021 #9
Distraction Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #19
Oh, so it's okay to privatize the service? Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #8
No, that's not the free market! WA-03 Democrat Apr 2021 #13
Hi, I'm in a long line please try to find me. SoonerPride Apr 2021 #10
We need a massive ad campaign: It shouldn't be easier to vote in Colorado than Georgia. CrispyQ Apr 2021 #11
Washington state is another example WA-03 Democrat Apr 2021 #15
+1 CrispyQ Apr 2021 #16
Why not slap an Uber sticker on your car and deliver food the voters have "ordered?" lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #14
Yeah, And When Confronted, You Just Say, "They Already Paid Online" ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2021 #18
My question exactly. I think we are making too much of the food and water issues instead of flying_wahini Apr 2021 #20
Except there's nothing in the new law that says that gratuitous Apr 2021 #21

underpants

(182,922 posts)
5. Yeah it is based on the assumption of waiting in line.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:40 PM
Apr 2021

In the burbs we white folks don’t even have time to place an order let alone need to wait for it.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
12. Exactly
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:20 PM
Apr 2021

The purpose of the no water law is to keep us from talking about the long lines.

It’s the wait times that suppress the vote, not the water law.

The other big problem is taking away the power if the Secretary of State. Brad Raffensperger fought the lies of the Trump campaign and this sidelines him.

applegrove

(118,829 posts)
4. Plus it is the shiny thing that keeps us from talking about the outrage that
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:40 PM
Apr 2021

some precincts have longer lines.

patphil

(6,225 posts)
3. So, he expects the voters to be on line for a very long time.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:39 PM
Apr 2021

Why not just set up more voting locations and more voting stations per location?
Why not have a goal of NMT 15 minute wait to vote?
Oh, wait, this isn't about making voting easier is it?

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
7. What's the difference between GrubHub delivering food and some stranger handing it out?
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:42 PM
Apr 2021

I truly do not understand Republican “logic” and I don’t think they do either.

applegrove

(118,829 posts)
9. The logic is to do anything that makes the lines long in certain precincts.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021

It is cold and directed and all over the country.

This from the link:

"SNIP.....

Long lines to vote are common in metro Atlanta, the center of Democratic power in the state, where a rapidly growing and diversifying population means the number of voters assigned to some polling places has doubled since the beginning of the last decade. In the interview, Kemp blamed county governments ― many of which are run by Democrats ― for those long lines. 

“They need to do a better job of running their elections and moving people through the lines, so they’re not standing out there so long,” Kemp said.

Long lines can deter voters. A study from the Bipartisan Policy Center found over half a million eligible voters did not cast a ballot in 2016 due to long lines and other polling place management errors. And facing long lines once can deter voters from coming back to cast their ballots in the future. 

.....SNIP"

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_606df616c5b6c70eccad0776

Kemp is a liar. He's gaslighting.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
19. Distraction
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:17 PM
Apr 2021

The assumption is some voters should expect to be in lines so long they'll be hungry and thirsty. Voting since 86. Never once waited more than 15-20 minutes to cast my vote. Most times, it's no waiting.

Of course, I am white, and always lived in smaller places in nicer neighborhoods.

They want us to talk about water and uber, and not the lines. They know certain voters will be camped out for hours. Hours.

It's not about logic at all. It's about distracting you with a minor detail so you won't be outraged at the voter suppression.



WA-03 Democrat

(3,056 posts)
13. No, that's not the free market!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:25 PM
Apr 2021

Let’s pay them one penny to eat that hot dog!

Who knows what’s in those things

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
11. We need a massive ad campaign: It shouldn't be easier to vote in Colorado than Georgia.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:55 PM
Apr 2021

Seriously. Where is our marketing department? The right recently compared the new GA voting laws to CO voting, which is totally ridiculous, since CO is one of the easiest states to vote in, if not the easiest.

CNN has a nice fact check on the right's claim: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/07/politics/fact-check-georgia-colorado-election-law-kemp-scott-cotton/index.html

snip...

Washington (CNN)Republicans have blasted Major League Baseball for moving its All-Star Game from Georgia to Colorado because of Georgia's controversial new elections law.

Some of these Republicans are trying to convince Americans that baseball officials are not only wrong but hypocritical. On television and on social media, they have claimed or strongly suggested that the new Georgia law is no stricter than Colorado's elections law.

That's not even close to true.


More at link.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,056 posts)
15. Washington state is another example
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:34 PM
Apr 2021

along with Oregon which has adopted much of it and made some great improvements. State run drop boxes, voter information sent before ballot and the ballots come last. Easy to fill out. Automatic registration.

For federal elections, how can the access to vote vary so much?

CrispyQ

(36,533 posts)
16. +1
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:49 PM
Apr 2021

I knew CO wasn't the only state with progressive voting laws I just couldn't think of any others.

And WA & CO were two of the first with progressive cannabis's laws, too.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
18. Yeah, And When Confronted, You Just Say, "They Already Paid Online"
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:15 PM
Apr 2021

Now you're not a good samaritan "handing out" food and water (oh, the horror of that thought), you're an Uber Eats driver DELIVERING food and water that people have already paid for. Instead of a dirty do-gooder that Republicans hate, you're an evil capitalist making money off of people's suffering. Republicans LOVE that.

flying_wahini

(6,659 posts)
20. My question exactly. I think we are making too much of the food and water issues instead of
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:37 PM
Apr 2021

Insuring access to well equipped polls, with plenty of workers and machines.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Except there's nothing in the new law that says that
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:55 PM
Apr 2021

The law says that "any person" handing out food and water to voters standing on line to vote is subject to criminal prosecution. There's no Grubhub or Uber Eats exceptions. So if some poor sap doing her side hustle delivers to a voter standing in line, she can get arrested, her car will probably get towed and impounded, and if she's working food delivery to make a couple of extra dollars, she probably doesn't have a lot of disposable income to spend on fines, lawyers, and gate fees for impound lots.

I'm guessing that Gov. Kemp won't be volunteering to pay those expenses for anyone gullible enough to do as he says.

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