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dlk

(11,569 posts)
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:53 PM Apr 2021

Until there are swift and severe consequences for police officers who randomly execute Americans

Last edited Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

And it’s usually Americans of color, this problem will only continue to get worse. What is wrong with officers who whip out their guns over every little thing? They are temperamentally unfit for their jobs.

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Until there are swift and severe consequences for police officers who randomly execute Americans (Original Post) dlk Apr 2021 OP
Abolish qualified immunity. Make them personally liable - criminally AND financially. dalton99a Apr 2021 #1
Yes, and hold police unions financially accountable dlk Apr 2021 #2
No government employees should have qualified immunity MichMan Apr 2021 #7
As we've seen, qualified immunity is a prescription for disaster dlk Apr 2021 #13
Also those police unions have to be held accountable too. brush Apr 2021 #10
When those multi-million dollar awards affect retirement... RainCaster Apr 2021 #17
Excellent point. KPN Apr 2021 #20
this is how they are selected. drray23 Apr 2021 #3
+1 2naSalit Apr 2021 #4
The fascist underpinnings of American policing are endlessly destructive dlk Apr 2021 #5
How many have been in Barking Orders Don't Listen Cultures MarcA Apr 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #6
Excellent question dlk Apr 2021 #11
POC are certainly targeted at a high rate... WarGamer Apr 2021 #8
True, although it seems the majority are people of color dlk Apr 2021 #12
definitely... but I see an itchy finger cop problem WarGamer Apr 2021 #15
Definitely dlk Apr 2021 #16
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2021 #9
Why does a traffic cop need a gun? cate94 Apr 2021 #18
Exactly! We're a barbaric country. Duppers Apr 2021 #19
Given the ever increasing numbers of gun deaths and political political stonewalling to address them dlk Apr 2021 #22
You'd Think The Amount of Settlement Money modrepub Apr 2021 #21
Even with multimillion dollar settlements, the number of police killings are only increasing dlk Apr 2021 #23

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
1. Abolish qualified immunity. Make them personally liable - criminally AND financially.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:55 PM
Apr 2021

Why should taxpayers and local homeowners have to pay for their crimes?

dlk

(11,569 posts)
2. Yes, and hold police unions financially accountable
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:58 PM
Apr 2021

It shouldn’t be just municipalities that are on the hook for monetary settlements.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
17. When those multi-million dollar awards affect retirement...
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:52 AM
Apr 2021

for all cops, they will start to police their own.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
3. this is how they are selected.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:58 PM
Apr 2021

their training aldo reinforces it. Officers never listen , they bark orders and if you dont comply immediatly they get violent or worse.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
5. The fascist underpinnings of American policing are endlessly destructive
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:01 PM
Apr 2021

The entire system needs an overhaul.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
14. How many have been in Barking Orders Don't Listen Cultures
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:13 AM
Apr 2021

most of their lives like police, military and, yes, organized sports?

Response to dlk (Original post)

WarGamer

(12,452 posts)
8. POC are certainly targeted at a high rate...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:23 PM
Apr 2021

But it's CERTAINLY not a POC-only problem.

Ask the Long Beach Ca PD about Douglas Zerby.

Dude was drunk, walked to his buddies apartment. Friend wasn't home. Doug sat on the front porch waiting for his friend to get home. He was bored and drunk... playing with a garden nozzle. Neighbor reported man with a gun. Cops came and opened fire without a warning or even announcing their presence.

No criminal charges, no riots, nada.

Fortunately the family won the lawsuit.

cate94

(2,811 posts)
18. Why does a traffic cop need a gun?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:54 AM
Apr 2021

Really? A traffic stop? A shoplifter? A cigarette seller? Wtf?

dlk

(11,569 posts)
22. Given the ever increasing numbers of gun deaths and political political stonewalling to address them
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:37 AM
Apr 2021

Yes, too many Americans have a barbaric streak and we have a serious police brutality problem.

modrepub

(3,496 posts)
21. You'd Think The Amount of Settlement Money
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 06:29 AM
Apr 2021

From these types of incidents would make folks more selective in who they hire. If they spent some resources identifying possible trouble makers up front, and have proper training and mentoring once police are hired maybe these types of incidents would become much less common.

As this movement has properly pointed out. Just hiring police at the expense of other social services is probably not good practice. It's not a great idea to only have hammers in your tool box.

Part of me wonders if glorifying the cop who doesn't play by the rules (dirty Harry types) contributes to these types of problems.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
23. Even with multimillion dollar settlements, the number of police killings are only increasing
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:40 AM
Apr 2021

It’s the cop culture on the street. All of the best training is ineffective when cops on the street teach something entire different to the new hires.

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