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PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 01:04 AM Apr 2021

The Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

I got it nearly three weeks ago. About four days ago I started having serious pain in my right leg. Honestly, I cannot walk more than 15 feet without severe pain. Truly excruciating. Not sure if there's a connection. It's possible that since I did have a serious heart attack back in December, that might possibly be the real thing here. Who knows? Luckily for me I have an appointment with my PCP tomorrow afternoon, and I will explain to her what's going on. Hopefully, this will all be resolved.

In normal times I am the healthiest person I know, and I hope that remain the same through all of this.

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The Johnson & Johnson vaccine. (Original Post) PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 OP
Let us know how it goes... My son got the J&J. Young man and 1 in a million LizBeth Apr 2021 #1
Saw something tonight about a blood test and low platelets after J&J. sarcasmo Apr 2021 #2
Are you between the ages of 18 and 48? nt Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #3
I'm 72 years old. I am female, despite my screen name here. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #7
Do not wait for an appointment Meowmee Apr 2021 #4
This. Haggard Celine Apr 2021 #6
+1, Do not fool around Deminpenn Apr 2021 #12
Here are is a summary of the symptoms Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #5
Honestly, I don't feel that I need to go to an ER immediately. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #8
Somewhat more to the point, if I don't survive, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #9
I hope you get to your appointment! mnhtnbb Apr 2021 #10
Actually, it's inside the window. Friday will be three weeks from my shot. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #13
Get an appointment. ASAP. roamer65 Apr 2021 #11
I got the J&J and I'm female between the ages of 18 and 48 JuJuChen Apr 2021 #14
Hundreds of women on Twitter & Instagram womanofthehills Apr 2021 #23
I got curious... StarryNite Apr 2021 #27
Very dismissive as usual when it comes oregonjen Apr 2021 #34
Please update us on what you find out at the doctor's office today. StarryNite Apr 2021 #15
Please don't wait bluestarone Apr 2021 #16
Update. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #17
I was just asking at the same time you were updating! StarryNite Apr 2021 #19
Thanks for the update. hamsterjill Apr 2021 #21
I'm going to try a massively larger dose of acetaminophen. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #22
Well how did the doctor appt go? StarryNite Apr 2021 #18
It went well. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #20
Maybe a pinched nerve? StarryNite Apr 2021 #24
Maybe a pinched nerve. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #26
Journal of Pain and Symptom Management - Chiropractic: A Critical Evaluation Celerity Apr 2021 #28
I have never been to a chiropractor myself. StarryNite Apr 2021 #29
there may ne some back pain benefits, glad to hear he was helped, and lived so long Celerity Apr 2021 #30
Me too! StarryNite Apr 2021 #31
awww, hugs Celerity Apr 2021 #32
Thank you Celerity. That is sooo beautiful. StarryNite Apr 2021 #33
wonderful poetry Celerity Apr 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Apr 2021 #36
One more update. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #25

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
1. Let us know how it goes... My son got the J&J. Young man and 1 in a million
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 01:07 AM
Apr 2021

I am not concerned, but still like to know how it goes with you.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
7. I'm 72 years old. I am female, despite my screen name here.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:32 AM
Apr 2021

It may be important to know I had a very serious heart attack right before Christmas. Perhaps that's the essential thing here.

I will say that I cannot walk more than twenty feet or so without excruciating pain. I will give an update after my PCP appointment tomorrow. It was set up a couple of weeks ago, so I saw no reason to make it happen any earlier.

It's highly probable that my heart attack in December is more important than my J&J vaccine. No matter what, I'm very happy to have gotten the vaccine. Honestly, I'd have been happy with any of them. While I am normally an annoyingly healthy person, and I cheerfully assume the best of all possible outcomes, I hope everything turns out well.

Honestly, I view myself as a very healthy person, and assume all will be well.

Haggard Celine

(16,856 posts)
6. This.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:03 AM
Apr 2021

PO needs to go to the hospital immediately. Sounds like it could be a clot in that leg, and if it moves to his heart, it'll all be over.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
8. Honestly, I don't feel that I need to go to an ER immediately.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:37 AM
Apr 2021

Yes, I have excruciating pain in my leg, but I honestly have no sense of urgency about seeking medical care. Of course, I'm a person who was having a heart attack for some twelve hours before I went to the local ER for it. I'm not the best example of how to handle a medical crisis, I know.

And to think, my mother was a nurse.

If I sit, my leg does not hurt. Honestly. Does that help?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
9. Somewhat more to the point, if I don't survive,
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:51 AM
Apr 2021

I hope that all of you here will celebrate my life.

Although I honestly expect I'll be around for a very long time to mock all of you.

mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts)
10. I hope you get to your appointment!
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:36 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:02 AM - Edit history (1)

Seriously, although the onset of your leg pain is outside the window of time associated with the clot problems of the J&J vaccine and you are much older than the women who had the clots, you are better off being seen as soon as possible.

I will tell you that the night before my second Moderna shot I got up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. My knee replacement knee started to hurt-- to swell-- and within minutes was so painful I couldn't walk. It was not hot or red, which are often additional symptoms of clots. Once I got to my cane, which I keep in the umbrella stand by the front door, I was able to walk. I immediately started icing it and kept it up for hours until it was time to go for my second shot. As my mobility increased and pain subsided, I did not believe it to be a clot.

Then the same damn thing happened 12 days after my second shot. Ice and Aleve ( to reduce inflammation) started to reduce the pain almost immediately.

Joint and muscle pain are common side effects of all the vaccines. My youngest son's partner went to the ER last Friday with excruciating back pain, four days after his second Moderna. He feared he had a slipped disc. X-rays showed nothing. It was muscle inflammation.

I will tell you I considered getting myself to the ER in the middle of the night the first time my knee ballooned up, but decided not to go. It has been almost four years since my knee replacement and during all that time I've never had such an immediate onset of pain and stiffness for no reason. I think it was related to the vaccines.

Hope you're ok. Let us know.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
13. Actually, it's inside the window. Friday will be three weeks from my shot.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 10:50 AM
Apr 2021

The six cases of blood clots have apparently been cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, clots that form in veins that drain blood from the brain. But one of the symptoms listed is leg pain, which I absolutely have. And it started some two weeks after the shot. But no swelling at all.

There's strong possibility this is connected to my heart attack of last December, rather than the vaccine.

I already had an appointment with my PCP for this afternoon.

JuJuChen

(2,216 posts)
14. I got the J&J and I'm female between the ages of 18 and 48
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021

Feel fine as frog hair, pain the day after but 6.5 million have taken it and 6 cases of blood clots all from females? Keep in mind these clots can be a combination of things added like smoking or drinking.

womanofthehills

(8,761 posts)
23. Hundreds of women on Twitter & Instagram
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021

Saying shots messed up their periods and post menopausal women suddenly getting periods again. Many had prolonged heavy bleeding for weeks or more. Now that they have paused the J & J vaccine, I read they might just recommend it for older folks like Astra Zeneca did with their vaccine. Astra Zeneca is having the same problem with blood clots and they are similar vaccines.

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
27. I got curious...
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 10:42 PM
Apr 2021

Can COVID-19 vaccine impact your menstrual cycle? Doctors address side-effects concerns
Dr. Viray: 'That’s just not how these vaccines work'

RICHMOND, Va. -- Hundreds of women have taken to social media to document their experience with a change in their menstrual cycle following their COVID vaccine.

In a thread started by University of Illinois Associate Professor, Dr. Kate Clancy, some said they noticed more cramping, heavier bleeding, or other irregularities.

Dr. Melissa Viray, Deputy Director for the Richmond City and Henrico County Health Districts said she does not believe there’s a physiologic involvement between the vaccine and a woman's menstrual cycle, and would not classify it as a side-effect of the COVID vaccine.

"That’s just not how these vaccines work -- so I’d be very surprised," said Dr. Viray.

However, Dr. Viray did say the vaccine could put stress on the body since it’s teaching your immune system to fight the COVID virus.

More at link:
[link:https://www.wtvr.com/news/coronavirus/covid-vaccine-menstrual-cycle-impacts|

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
15. Please update us on what you find out at the doctor's office today.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 01:38 PM
Apr 2021

I got the J&J three weeks ago. My husband got his the same day. It will be three weeks post J&J for our daughter-in-law tomorrow. Our son, daughter, and son-in-law are just at 2 weeks post J&J. I keep hearing different timelines for when we should be past the point of concern relating to clots, anywhere from two to eight weeks post shot. I'm a worrier so I'll just wait until we've all passed the eight week point. Then I'll find something else to worry about. During that time I will keep reminding myself that the risk of getting Covid and having blood clots from it far outweigh the risk from the vaccination.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
17. Update.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 08:57 PM
Apr 2021

The good news is I don't have any blood clots in my leg. The bad news is that no one seems to have a clue what's going on.

I got some x-rays today, then a doppler scan. Haven't heard what the x-rays show, but the doppler was clear for x-rays.

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
19. I was just asking at the same time you were updating!
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 08:59 PM
Apr 2021

Thank goodness no blood clots. Hopefully they figure it out. How are you doing today?

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
21. Thanks for the update.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:24 PM
Apr 2021

I was thinking of you today. Glad no clots, but sorry the pain persists without knowing the cause. Hopefully, you’ll get answers soon.

Anything you can do to alleviate the pain and get some rest?

Sending a hug.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
22. I'm going to try a massively larger dose of acetaminophen.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:30 PM
Apr 2021

Someone (not here on DU) has also suggested I look into either acupuncture or a chiropractor if this doesn't get resolved soon.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
20. It went well.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 09:06 PM
Apr 2021

X-rays were taken, then I was sent to an imaging center for a doppler thing to look for blood clots. The good news is I have no blood clots. The bad news is that no one can figure out why I'm having this weird pain. And it's excruciating if I stand for more than two minutes or try to walk more than ten steps.

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
24. Maybe a pinched nerve?
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 10:35 PM
Apr 2021

I know a lot of people don't trust chiropractors but I know for a fact my dad was helped by one when his back was so bad that he couldn't tie his own shoes and had to literally roll out of bed to get up. I've known other people who have been helped by them too. Just a thought.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
26. Maybe a pinched nerve.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 10:40 PM
Apr 2021

Maybe some kind of weird thing with my spine, sending the nerve pain to those three separate places. Makes sense to me.

I have not ever been to a chiropractor myself, but I tend to have warm and fuzzy feelings for them.

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
29. I have never been to a chiropractor myself.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 11:30 PM
Apr 2021

But as I said before, my dad was helped by going and he didn't have to take drugs of any kind. So it was a definite win for him. He was in his 40s at the time. He went several times and then he was fine and didn't have that issue again. He was 103 when he died.

Celerity

(43,498 posts)
32. awww, hugs
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:22 AM
Apr 2021


Clair de lune

Your soul is a chosen landscape
Where charming masquerades and dancers are promenading,
Playing the lute and dancing, and almost
Sad beneath their fantastic disguises.

While singing in a minor key
Of victorious love, and the pleasant life
They seem not to believe in their own happiness
And their song blends with the light of the moon,

With the sad and beautiful light of the moon,
Which sets the birds in the trees dreaming,
And makes the fountains sob with ecstasy,
The slender water streams among the marble statues.


Paul Verlaine - 1869

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
33. Thank you Celerity. That is sooo beautiful.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:26 AM
Apr 2021


Adrift! A Little Boat Adrift!

Adrift! A little boat adrift!
And night is coming down!
Will no one guide a little boat
Unto the nearest town?

So Sailors say—on yesterday—
Just as the dusk was brown
One little boat gave up its strife
And gurgled down and down.

So angels say—on yesterday—
Just as the dawn was red
One little boat—o'erspent with gales—
Retrimmed its masts—redecked its sails—
And shot—exultant on!
Emily Dickinson

Response to StarryNite (Reply #33)

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
25. One more update.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 10:38 PM
Apr 2021

The x-rays show nothing. Well, other than what my be expected from being 72 years old, but no breaks, nothing like that.

Which again, is good, but my leg still hurts like hell.

In many ways I should not complain much, because almost my entire life I have been extraordinarily healthy, and I hope I've appreciated that health as much as I should have.

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