This is the photo of the alleged shooter, Brandon Scott Hole, 19 in the Indianapolis FedEx shooting

[soothsayer]

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Tom Winter
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NBC News: This is the photo of the alleged shooter, Brandon Scott Hole, 19 in the Indianapolis FedEx shooting that left 8 dead, according to a police spokesperson.

Story here: https://nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-reported-fedex-facility-indianapolis-n1264249…

[secondwind]

1. He may have been on something when this photo was taken...those pupils are very large.

Looks like he's just a kid........

[FreeState]

7. Or not

Light blue eyes do that. Can’t tell you how many times I have been accused of that (my eyes are a bit lighter than his in this photo).

[tblue37]

19. He was 19.

[CrackityJones75]

20. He is not a kid. He is 19.

I know what you are saying but it drives me absolutely nuts when people refer to adults as kids. In this instance ok he is 19. Close. But I stopped raising my children as kids at 14. Sure they aren’t treated as full fledged adults but we do them no favors by putting off adulthood. I hear people refer to people as old as 30 as “just a kid”. And it drives me nuts

[Celerity]

32. There is a prolific poster here who claims all women under 40 are just girls.

[CrackityJones75]

33. Wow. That is just.... Wow.

I just can’t even fathom what goes into that thought process and then to think for some reason that applies to women specifically.... Yikes

[Celerity]

34. I challenged them, but to no avail. They stood by it.

[CrackityJones75]

38. unreal. Was it a man?

[Celerity]

41. yes

[ismnotwasm]

40. How did I miss that shit?

It’s creepy

[USALiberal]

30. Really? Remote diagnosis! Nt

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

2. Red Flag, "In Mar 2020 his mother contacted LE that he might try "suicide by cop"

He was placed on immediate detention mental health temporary hold

[BigmanPigman]

3. I feel badly for his mom.

Having to turn him in a year ago when he was dangerous and now with these murders and her own son's death. Too much sadness and death for everyone.

[Skittles]

4. I do too

knowing how much easier it is to get guns than to get good mental health care in America, it seems like she did the best she could

[SheltieLover]

5. +1

[MustLoveBeagles]

16. +2

[Demsrule86]

17. There is little real help these days for kids with mental illness. My daughter has struggled with

this. We almost lost her. She is a danger only to her self though. Regan destroyed the mental health system...sure it wasn't perfect but it was there. And insurance refusing to cover mental health finished its destruction. I blame easy gun access for mass shootings and know the GOP are always touting 'mental health' which their party destroyed when there is a mass shooting and they don't mean it. They would not vote for mental solutions. However, there is a desperate need for mental health access, treatment and hospitals...they are few and far between.

[BigmanPigman]

21. My mother was furious when Reagun did that.

She had worked at a mental health hospital and she knew what the future would look like. She turned out to be right.

[left-of-center2012]

6. I don't know if this is correct, but ...

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I watch a lot of 'true crime shows' on TV and those 'spots' on his face 'may be' from using crystal meth,
and meth can cause anger, paranoia, and violence.

"Meth, also known as crystal methamphetamine, has the most notorious reputation for causing skin problems because of drug use. Even short-term meth use can have a profound negative impact on your skin, as well as your health. It’s easy to spot someone who is struggling with a meth addiction. The meth sores, scabs, and scars on their face ..."

Common skin problems for drug abusers ...
https://www.aspenridgerecoverycenters.com/skin-problems-for-drug-abusers-and-alcoholics/

Links Between Methamphetamine Use, Paranoia, and Violence
https://www.promisesbehavioralhealth.com/addiction-recovery-blog/links-between-methamphetamine-use-paranoia-and-violence/

[Mary in S. Carolina]

13. Yup

Meth Head

[mcar]

14. Or acne

Neither of my sons were meth heads but both had acne into their 20s.

I had it into my 30s at times.

[Ms. Toad]

24. Looks to me like teenage acne. n/t

[PatSeg]

35. Same here

My son still had acne issues in his late teens and early 20s.

[stillcool]

8. that's just sad

his mother called the police? Not a Doctor? The police surely would have gotten him in touch with some mental health facility.

In March 2020, the suspect’s mother contacted law enforcement to report he might try to" attempt "suicide by cop," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Paul Keenan, who runs the bureau's Indianapolis field office.
"A shotgun was seized at his residence. Based on items observed in the suspect’s bedroom at that time, he was interviewed by the FBI in April 2020. No Racially Motivated Violent Extremism (RMVE) ideology was identified during the course of the assessment and no criminal violation was found," the statement said. "The shotgun was not returned to the suspect.”

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. If he was 18, there wasn't much she could do by calling a doctor.

[SharonAnn]

18. A doctor can prescribe meds, but not much else.

It’s usually pointless to call a doctor when things are that bad. Especially if he doesn’t have insurance coverage.

[pinkstarburst]

25. The problem is that we don't have

really any good resources out there when someone is experiencing a mental health crisis. We just don't. There aren't enough beds, and there are often wait lists for YEARS to get a spot if you need inpatient care. (Then of course, you either have to be willing to go, or have a doctor be willing to involuntarily commit you.)

So often people experiencing severe mental health crisis fall through the cracks. They have episodes and can become violent with family members who may call the police, or send them to the hospital for a 72 hour hold, but again, after three days, they're sent right back home and the cycle starts over.

[catsudon]

9. ok the photo screams

the banjo player from the deliverance.

[BigmanPigman]

22. That's what I thought too.

Now I have Dueling Banjos playing in my head.

[speak easy]

23. +1

yeppers.

[DFW]

26. Thank goodness someone else said it

Not appropriate, but on the mind of everyone who saw it

[shrike3]

31. You're right.

[WarGamer]

10. creepy little bastard

[luckone]

11. I have a friend that works at Fed ex airport facility but different city and I feel so sorry

I have a friend that works at Fed ex airport facility but different city and I feel so sorry that this had to happen to workers in this industry
These facilities they have been working harder than ever since Covid with all the PPE hospital equipment and also everything shipped being delivered now he is always working six days and overtime all through a pandemic
Shoot yourself if you must and can’t be helped but to have that happening at FedEx facility
these people working there were changing shifts that’s where he started in the parking lot as some were leaving just random people completely random then random inside the facility from what I’ve read

[mcar]

15. He looks so young

Kids that young shouldn't be able to get guns, especially when their own mother reports their mental instability.

[DFW]

27. So true

These are Wayne LaPierre’s victims as much as anyone else’s.

[elevator]

28. Didn't he play the banjo in "Deliverance"?

Dead ringer...excuse the pun.

[BruceWane]

36. So, any questions?

Not excusing his actions by any means, but I'm guessing we've all got a pretty good idea about why/how this young man ended up in a mindset to do what he did.

"Looks like the banjo player from deliverance"
"Creepy little bastard"
"Glad someone else said it"

He had probably taken shit and been shunned his entire life because he looked a little different.

Lovely society we have, isn't it?

No one's expecting that every single one of us is going to get the "beautiful person" treatment, but it'd be nice if we didn't actively mistreat and exclude those who aren't so lucky. It's really cruel and barbaric.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. +100. nt

[Leith]

42. Don't forget his surname

I don't know how he survived 5th grade.

[BlueNProud]

37. I see no problem letting this guy buy as many weapons of war as he wants