So if you have a gun and are told by police officers

[edhopper]

to throw down the gun and put up your hands, you are probably better off refusing and opening fire. Less chance of getting shot.

[USALiberal]

1. Really, that is the advice you think will work? Nt

[Wounded Bear]

2. I suspect that was a bad attempt at sick humor...

[edhopper]

5. that's the best kind

[EYESORE 9001]

3. No, but...

it's the sarcasm I think people won't get.

[edhopper]

6. I suspect

you are right.

[edhopper]

4. Well

we see throwing down your gun and putting your hands up still gets you killed.

[USALiberal]

7. I would bet over 90% of the time it does work! Nt

[edhopper]

8. So

less effective than the COVID vaccine?

[RandiFan1290]

9. Don't move too fast or too slow

Either way you are wrong

[Treefrog]

10. Maybe don't get chased by a cop while carrying a gun?

It’s never happened to me. It never will happen to me.

[stillcool]

11. you don't carry a weapon?

how un-American. I'm sure you've lived in a completely different social setting. One that affords the right to life beyond the womb.

[Treefrog]

13. Perhaps so. I think the majority of us know better than to run around in the streets at 230 am.

Shooting at people and running from cops is never going to end well for anyone.

[stillcool]

14. you don't need a gun to be gunned down

in broad daylight, when black. And shooting people and running form the cops ends well for lots of white people...depending on who they shot. When I was 13 years old the people I lived with would have killed me for staying out that late. Different times, and definitely a different environment. Must be nice to see things in black and white, us and them. Seems like you can avoid caring that way.

[Treefrog]

18. Nice not so subtle insult.

The kid was not black, btw.

[stillcool]

21. Isn't this about 13 year-old Adam Toledo?

I watched the video. Could you provide me the link, or the name of the other 13 year-old

Bodycam video of fatal police shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo released to public
CHICAGO NEWS
by: Erik Runge, WGN Web Desk, Julian Crews

Posted: Apr 16, 2021 / 06:55 AM CDT / Updated: Apr 16, 2021 / 08:27 PM CDT

CHICAGO — Chicago police say the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo was a split-second decision, and he did not have a gun in his hand the moment he was shot.
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Videos show Adam Toledo, 13, may have dropped gun as he raised his hands when CPD officer fatally shot him
As officers and Chicago Fire Department personnel performed life-saving procedures, the officer who fired the shot soon finds a gun near the break in fence where the boy was shot.

Adam, a seventh grader at Gary Elementary School in Little Village, was pronounced dead at the scene. Roman was taken into custody and charged with resisting arrest, a misdemeanor. He was released from police custody a few hours later.

The footage released by COPA directly contradicts the account of the shooting given by the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office during a related court hearing held over the weekend.

On Saturday, Assistant State’s Attorney James Murphy told a judge that Adam had a gun in his hand when he was fatally shot by a CPD officer. Bodycam footage — recorded by the officer who fired — indicates that the 13-year-old did have a gun, but he put it on the ground and raised his hands in the moments before the officer shot him once in the chest.

[Treefrog]

29. Yes, and Adam was not black.

[stillcool]

32. Latino. From the video I could not tell..

it happened so fast. Not white enough.

[sarisataka]

22. The number of people who miss that detail

Is remarkable. I don't understand why since his ethnicity has been clearly identified.

[Treefrog]

30. I really wonder if some just have no idea what they're talking about?

Or don't want their narrative disturbed.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

15. Hey look the correct answer

X2

[Treefrog]

20. What's so strange is how du hates gunners.

But so many seem not to care that this child was running around with a gun shooting at people!

[StarfishSaver]

24. It's also strange how many DUers accept a rumor as fact and then spread it around

There is no proof that this young man shot at anyone. Yet several people on this board have claimed that he was as if that's a fact. They're willing to assume the worst about this boy, but God forbid anyone jump to a conclusion about the shot it.

But even if it were true, he wasn't shooting at anyone when he encountered the police. He did exactly as the officer told him to do and was shot anyway. The OP's point was made from sarcasm, but it's sadly true. Black and brown people are constantly told that if they just comply with police orders, they won't get shot. This kid complied and got shot anyway

[Hassin Bin Sober]

26. Yep, these are the people terrorizing neighborhoods shooting innocent people.

There’s a problem corner near the temporary housing I was recently living in. A man was shot in the back of the head and killed while driving home from work at 6pm.

I feel bad for the kid because he was so young. He was obviously running with some bad people. But the cop didn’t know his age or his family history.

I’m no fan of cops - they are too often needlessly escalating situations. But chasing people with guns who just shot up a residential street? That’s what they are supposed to do.

[StarfishSaver]

33. What proof do you have that Adam had "just shot up a residential neighborhood"?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

36. .

[Hassin Bin Sober]

12. Don't shoot up neighborhoods at 2:30 am. There's a start.

[LisaL]

16. I don't have a gun.

NT

[SYFROYH]

17. In Adam Toledo's case, at the point where he stops running and the cop says show hands and drop it

The only chance he had to survive was to let the gun fall from his hands where the cop could see and slowly raise hands without twisting around.

There is no way he could have known that.

I’m not blaming Adam for being shot .


Of course the cop could have waited longer to shoot and potentially let him point a gun at him. I’m convinced the cop made the decision to shoot while Adam was spinning and before Adam got his right hand up.

[Kaleva]

23. The fact that having a gun greatly increases the chance of tragic, unintended consequences

is something Adam Toledo probably knew.

[SYFROYH]

25. Maybe. For all we know, the 21-year old handed Adam the gun and said run.

And that was the first time he ever held a gun.


I don’t think Adam considered the risk of his actions all night

[Kaleva]

27. I don't carry a gun out in public

because the odds of something bad happening with one are so much greater then the odds of something bad happening while not carrying a gun.

[SYFROYH]

28. Yes, that's a reasonable choice of an adult.

[LisaL]

34. But not reasonable for a 13 year old?

I don't think a 13 year old can legally carry a gun in this country.

[SYFROYH]

35. No, its not legal which is evidnce of impulsive or irrational thinking in most cases.

We don't know all the details of what happened that night, but it appears the 21-year old emptied the handgun when shooting a car and gave it to the 13-year old to run with when the police arrived.

Not smart, but there wasn't a lot of time to think.

[StarfishSaver]

37. Only cops are allowed to behave rashly

If that rashness results in someone's death, oh well. Shit hapens.

Everyone else, even 13 year olds, must act with forethought, rationality and clear-mindedness. If they don't, any negative consequence is purely and solely their fault, even if it:s the result of rash behavior by a cop.