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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if a president's term was for 6 years and only one term? They would then not have to run again
and would have time to get their agenda done?
I also think congress should have term limits.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)pandr32
(11,611 posts)I think it would be better to have publicly funded elections and to limit campaigning to a short period of time instead of it being pretty much constant.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)In 2012 I went to the Democratic Convention. Martin O'Malley and Brian Schweitzer were making the rounds, talking to State Delegations. Were they "campaigning"?
In 2017, Congressman John Delaney spoke at the NH Democratic Party dinner to raise funds for the State Party. Was he "campaigning"?
AS long as we have a First Amendment, you can't stop politicians from getting their name out in public.
pandr32
(11,611 posts)It has gotten so ridiculous that one party in particular is fundraising and campaigning instead of governing. When it is more important to pander to big donors than your constituents we are officially dysfunctional.
In Canada there are laws to keep this in check. An election campaign can last no more than 50 days. Third parties are also limited on what they can spend on election advertising and donations.
We are out of whack.
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)And, the last 2 years could be scorched earth and/or time to plot a coup, because a would-be tyrant would have nothing to lose.
I suppose that part applies to any 2 term president, as well.
But, recency bias makes a 6 year term seem ominous.
bottomofthehill
(8,346 posts)No thank you. There are term limits, House 2 years, President 4 years, Senate 6 years.
brush
(53,843 posts)Or the filibuster. It bills itself as the world's greatest deliberative body. Ahhhh....No. It's broken and the filibuster is what's broken it as it gives the minority the power to block the majority. And last I heard in America, in a democracy, the majority is supposed to rule.
It's simple, a simple majority or larger, as in the House, should rule. And that of course brings to mind the question...well what do we need with two bodies that vote simple majority on bills, especially one where a state like Wyoming with a population of some 600,000 people has the same power as California with a population of 40,000,000?
We need the Constitution 2.0 now. The founding fathers we're prescient but no one could ever be 245 years prescient (see the 2nd Amendment wording for example).
bottomofthehill
(8,346 posts)Complicated process but so would constitution 2.0
tritsofme
(17,399 posts)I dont like the idea of a single six year term, the president would immediately become a lame duck.
And term limits for Congress are a bad idea too, it would leave lobbyists as the only professional lawmakers in Washington. People like John Lewis and Ted Kennedy serving for decades in Congress is not the problem.
Elessar Zappa
(14,047 posts)representatives had a four year term instead of two. As it stands now theyre always in campaign mode.
lastlib
(23,284 posts)giving Congressmen four-year terms. tRump and 2018 made me re-think it. Without the 2018 elections, Former POS would've had four years' free-rein to pillage/destroy democracy--no chance of impeachments. Think how f*cked we would've been.
meadowlander
(4,402 posts)If four years of the Trump administration didn't convince you of the importance of competence and experience in government then nothing will.
It takes decades to learn how to govern effectively. Kicking people out of office every eight years or so arbitrarily is like saying someone can only be a top neurosurgeon for eight years and then we need some fresh blood.
If someone is doing their job well and that's the candidate that the majority of people support, they should be able to run as many times as they want to. Term limits are profoundly anti-democratic and were only introduced because the right was so scared of FDR being unbeatable.
magicarpet
(14,167 posts)If trDUMP was not out in four years due to the end of his first term, but remained for six years.
The trDUMP/Putin agenda may well have succeeded and ended the last vestige of democracy. We would now be a full blown Fascist State.
Walleye
(31,045 posts)I often hear this brought up as if its a solution to a problem. Think of all the lame ducks whowould be looking to feather their nest outside the government. They would be much more vulnerable to bribery. And I think it would take a constitutional amendment. Yet, I hear it mentioned all the time.
catrose
(5,073 posts)I think we lose a lot of a president's focus by the necessity of campaigning for re-election--of course, T would have spent the time trying to get himself declared president for life.
Ferryboat
(923 posts)It's called voting. Effective politicians should be allowed to have a long tenure. Not to mention it takes years to ascend into leadership positions.
Of course it can lead to problems, Diane Feinstein is a prime example.
Flip side is Senator Patty Murray D - WA.
Low key and can deliver .
Towlie
(5,328 posts)
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But there's no argument that could convince me that one is better than the other. It's just part of an arbitrary set of rules that can't easily be changed when bad people figure out how to exploit them.
randr
(12,414 posts)If they lose the confidence vote we have another election the following year.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)rsdsharp
(9,197 posts)Bad idea in my opinion.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)they'd be the only ones around long enough to understand how it all works.
bottomofthehill
(8,346 posts)Money would really talk then.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)Not the people ready to bribe them.
This of what we would have lost - medicare and the Civil Rights Act - if Lyndon Johnson had not had the knowledge of the people in the Senate and the House. Or without Nancy Pelosi's familiarity with the House members.
We need long time members of both Chambers to carry the traditions and integrity forward.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)PSPS
(13,614 posts)If we had a proper parliamentary system, "no confidence" could end a madman's term immediately.
As for term limits, perhaps you didn't notice but we already have them. It's called an election. Roosevelt was re-elected three times for a reason, you know.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)That 20 year overall limit includes SCOTUS.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)is that it is a Very Bad Idea, mainly because the President would be a lame duck from day one.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)Is that what you want? Is that what anybody wants?
LeftInTX
(25,546 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)Term limits won't solve the problem. It will only make it worse.
Put limits on lobbying and political contributions. Also, restrict members of Congress from becoming a lobbyist.
Term limits on Congress will only put more power in the hands of the President and the Executive Branch. Congressional members need time to learn the ins and outs of the different departments and agencies.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)May it be so.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)not that anyone would vote for them.