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David J. Lynch 4 hrs ago
Throughout last years campaign, President Donald Trump issued a series of increasingly dark predictions about what would happen if Joe Biden were elected. If he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which youve never seen. Your 401(k)s will go to hell and itll be a very, very sad day for this country, Trump said in the Oct. 22 candidate debate.
Instead, the rebounding economy is headed for its best year since 1984, according to the International Monetary Fund. The U.S. economy likely expanded in the first quarter at an annual rate of 6 percent and should accelerate in the months ahead, economist Ian Shepherdson of Pantheon Macroeconomics told clients this week. More than 1.3 million jobs have been added since the election.
By Trumps preferred metric the stock market Biden is outperforming his predecessor at this stage of his presidency. Last summer, the Republican said stock values would collapse under Biden. But through Thursday, the Dow Jones industrial average was up nearly 16 percent since Nov. 7, when the Democrat was declared the apparent election winner, compared with a 10.5 percent gain over a similar period following Trumps election.
There wasnt much behind President Trumps predictions other than aspirations that hed be reelected, said economist Michael Strain of the American Enterprise Institute.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-economy-spikes-republicans-are-still-waiting-for-the-biden-depression-that-trump-predicted/ar-BB1fX3wZ
Diamond_Dog
(32,113 posts)It went DOWN by 15% when Orange Ass was in charge.
It has rebounded back to where it was before and then some since Biden took office.
PLUS
My Marketplace health insurance monthly premiums went UP by 23% when Orange Ass was in charge.
And they were recently LOWERED by 62% thanks to the Biden Administration.
Those are facts!!
Suck it, Republicans!
wryter2000
(46,094 posts)Your health insurance went down that much? That's impressive. If that happens to large numbers of people, it'll really help with elections.
I get my health insurance through medicare and my old employer, so I'm not up-to-date on where premiums are.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)we were able to get catastrophic but that was it...this time I was surprised how much more affordable they were. Hubs has a job but insurance won't kick in until July.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)former9thward
(32,097 posts)The Dow on January 20, 2017 was 19732. On January 20, 2021 it was 30930. That is a 57% gain. You need to fire your financial advisor if you have one.
Politics and economic predictions rarely mix. On election night November, 2016, Paul Krugman said the Dow would plunge the next day and NEVER recover. Instead, much to his embarrassmnt, it went up.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout
IronLionZion
(45,562 posts)While Trump's lies about the pandemic last year definitely hurt most Americans. His tax cuts didn't trickle down much but I bet Biden's infrastructure plan with tax raises for the wealthy will help trickle up from working people.
AZ8theist
(5,514 posts)Would believe what a pathologically lying treasonous pig would say....
Escurumbele
(3,406 posts)1. Republicans take power, the economy gets destroyed
2. Democrats take power, they fix the economy
3. Republicans take power, the economy gets destroyed
4. Democrats take power, they fix the economy
5. repeat
Let's be real, and smart...The Economy doesn't do anything to itself, this bullshit from republicans about an "Economic Cycle" which they invented to justify their lack of governing abilities and ideas to allow the country to prosper, is just that, "bullshit". It is the decisions that politicians make that creates the ups and downs of the economy, it is not a cycle, it is no coincidence that the economy goes down when republicans are in power, and it goes up when Democrats are in power. Any other explanation is fantasy.
Here is a sample:
Reagan + Bush father, republicans - Economy Destroyed
Bill Clinton, Democrat - Economy Restored to historic highs
G. W. Bush, republicans - Economy Destroyed to historic lows
Barack Obama, Democrat - Economy Restored
donald trump, republicans - Economy Destroyed
Joe Biden, Democrat - Economy Recovery on the way.
GoodRaisin
(8,930 posts)such as the 2017 Trump tax scam (steal) and the Biden infrastructure plan (give back).
bucolic_frolic
(43,362 posts)If Trump were a soothsayer, he would own the world because he started on 3rd base.
COL Mustard
(5,935 posts)Like the Soviet Union used to have, and North Korea still does. Someone to make you believe that your life is worse because of...you fill in the blanks.
What's MTG doing these days? She could do some pull-ups, I'm sure.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,732 posts)claimed that if Obama were to be reelected, the unemployment rate would never get lower than 8% wile bragging he would get it to 6% if elected.
The unemployment rate when Obama left office? 4.7%.
DSandra
(999 posts)They have gone where no one else has gone before in their depths of stupidity and gullibility!
Roy Rolling
(6,941 posts)A president, unless spectacularly inept like Trump and controlled like W., does not control the stock market. Uncouple those things in your mind. They can help, and hurt in incredibly fast time.
Like a plant from a seed, stocks will grow steadily with a moderate balance of the equivalent of sunlight, air, and water(sales, earnings, and assets). It takes all three. Plants will grow, but at natures pace. It takes time to grow.
Uprooting and killing a plant can occur instantly, sogrowth and death are not mirror images. It takes a long time to grow, but death can come in an instant. So it is with stocks.
As Mark Twain said (paraphrased), April is a particularly dangerous month for stocks, followed closely by May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, and March.
As I say here, Im staying at the party, but Im dancing very close to the door.
FakeNoose
(32,819 posts)Chump kept taking credit for the market when it was up, but it never really had to do with him at all. Then the market went down (mostly for Covid reasons) and he pretended it wasn't happening, or it wasn't his fault.
Those of us with IRAs or 401Ks, or living off our savings, we need to be vigilant at all times.
When Chump was in office the Repukes could have "fixed" the deficit. But did they? Oh hell no, they were feeding at the trough like nobody's business. I'm done with them claiming they know how to handle the economy. They know nothing, and it's always the Democratic leaders who patch us up and keep us going.
NickB79
(19,276 posts)All the prepper sites are pushing gold again.
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)we were told that was coming..
Deminpenn
(15,290 posts)an emotional reaction to the cultists loss of their leader.
bucolic_frolic
(43,362 posts)Why do we, and the media especially, allow this bullshit to float unchecked?
WarGamer
(12,485 posts)Trump said SEVERAL times that 2021 would be a big year no matter the winner of '20
I'm not sure who writes these articles or what actual research they do.
In typical Trump-speak he also claimed that Biden would lead to a Market crash... but to be honest, many experts feel that we're past overdue for a recession and '22 is the most likely time.
But as an active investor and trader... I'm 100% BULL in '21.
Penn Voter
(247 posts)said the same thing after the Clinton budget was approved. How did that turn out? Clinton left with a budget surplus and more jobs created in his 8 years than in St. Reagan's.