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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:04 AM Apr 2021

Just a friendly reminder that the major issues with Caitlyn Jenner running for CA Governor

Are the fact that she’s incredibly unqualified, has bad policy positions, and legit seems not that bright. They have nothing to do with her being trans and taking potshots at her for that (misgendering or deadnaming her) is wrong and counterproductive.

/rant.

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Just a friendly reminder that the major issues with Caitlyn Jenner running for CA Governor (Original Post) TDale313 Apr 2021 OP
All good points PJMcK Apr 2021 #1
Yeah, that will be interesting. TDale313 Apr 2021 #4
Schwarzenegger is plenty smart but he lacked experience. hunter Apr 2021 #21
+1 2naSalit Apr 2021 #5
My thinking is that the Repugs will ignore her. riversedge Apr 2021 #8
They will if they think she can win, when have republicans shown any principles? Escurumbele Apr 2021 #24
She will not even be noticed among the dozens and dozens on the ballot. In the last recall Raine Apr 2021 #46
Hello..Newsflash..Newsom will not be recalled PortTack Apr 2021 #2
I am doing what I can to help support him. TDale313 Apr 2021 #6
+1 2naSalit Apr 2021 #7
Tell that to Schwarzenegger lame54 Apr 2021 #9
Schwarzenegger will support Newsom blm Apr 2021 #10
But will he lie to earn him votes? lame54 Apr 2021 #11
Newsom is not unpopular the way Davis was. And Schwarzenegger JI7 Apr 2021 #45
My feeling exactly exboyfil Apr 2021 #3
Prior relevant experience matters for just about... 3catwoman3 Apr 2021 #13
Given her voting record, or rather LACK of voting record, this induces a major eye roll from me Siwsan Apr 2021 #12
She Was For Trump Before She Was Against Him Me. Apr 2021 #14
Who really cares what Sur Zobra Apr 2021 #15
Slurs against a community aren't just hurting the person in question TDale313 Apr 2021 #19
So, you think it's okay to be a transphobe if they are the "wrong kind" obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #38
You left out her being part of that damned Kardashian clan celebrity culture. That's enough for me. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #16
Oh her being trans is ABSOLUTELY an issue ibegurpard Apr 2021 #17
Fair point, however there is a difference between TDale313 Apr 2021 #20
I don't see the post you replied to as saying anything derogatory about the LBGQT community PortTack Apr 2021 #23
Don't take issue with that, or the post I responded to. TDale313 Apr 2021 #25
Yup. Strictly a silly choice, but crazy days and it's not all on the right. nt Hortensis Apr 2021 #18
In the real world transgender transcends. Sneederbunk Apr 2021 #22
On the plus side, it's going to be fun watching Repukes tie themselves into knots over this one. Vinca Apr 2021 #26
It will. TDale313 Apr 2021 #27
No it will not ibegurpard Apr 2021 #29
Well said. n/t TDale313 Apr 2021 #34
Jenner Is A Republican Nuff Said DanieRains Apr 2021 #28
Republicans can't even let her go pee mshasta Apr 2021 #30
I'm glad she's running - it'll give the GOP field a clown car atmosphere peppertree Apr 2021 #31
wll, she is mentally unstable..... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #32
This is magical thinking at its worst dlk Apr 2021 #33
The elephant in the room isn't the one you have to ride. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #35
Last time we went thru this crap, a bajillion "candidates" popped up, looking for publicity... Hekate Apr 2021 #36
Yep. TDale313 Apr 2021 #37
Yes that's Angelyne, she drives a pink car with her name on the license plate Raine Apr 2021 #47
if she's behind u driving on the street get outta her waw ASAP nt msongs Apr 2021 #39
Ya didn't she kill someone driving recklessly? miyazaki Apr 2021 #41
she rear ended a car making it swerve and the driver died. not charged with a crime msongs Apr 2021 #42
You'd think her time on "CHiPs" would instill good driving skills miyazaki Apr 2021 #43
She was always a "she". intheflow Apr 2021 #44
At that time her name was still Bruce. nt Raine Apr 2021 #48
She's only running in the hope of splitting some tickets struggle4progress Apr 2021 #40
Yes Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #49

PJMcK

(22,056 posts)
1. All good points
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:06 AM
Apr 2021

Here's my take: It's going to be fun watching Republicans contort themselves into supporting a transgender candidate.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. Yeah, that will be interesting.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:10 AM
Apr 2021

I would like to say California is smarter than this, that she won’t get elected... but, well, we did elect the Governator... celebrity candidates definitely have an appeal.

hunter

(38,334 posts)
21. Schwarzenegger is plenty smart but he lacked experience.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:41 PM
Apr 2021

His character flaws are on par with many major politicians of both parties.

However bad a governor Schwarzenegger was it amused me to see him crush Darrell Issa who'd spent $2 million of his own money funding the Davis recall, hoping to be the next governor himself.

Mainstream Republicans like Issa or Tom McClintock might have done a lot more damage to the state than Arnold did.

The recall itself was fraudulent, meant to cover up the California electricity crisis which was created by Enron and other energy traders, many of the same players responsible for the catastrophe in Texas this past winter. These assholes essentially stole $40 - $45 billion dollars from California residents.

You'd think people would learn, but then we got Trump...

2naSalit

(86,824 posts)
5. +1
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

Although, I think they have gone past the point where they have any true angst about their hypocrisy such that contortion is possible. They don't care how blatantly they confirm their intent to destroy the country.

Escurumbele

(3,406 posts)
24. They will if they think she can win, when have republicans shown any principles?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:17 PM
Apr 2021

Whatever gets them in power is good for them, if they have to dance with a transgender at a party to boost her popularity, they will do it, they will kiss her hand if they must.

republicans are such crappy people with no morals, principles, no dignity, they will do anything to take power. One of them may even offer to marry her, if they see that will work for them.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
46. She will not even be noticed among the dozens and dozens on the ballot. In the last recall
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 04:00 AM
Apr 2021

here in California there was around a hundred candidates on the ballot.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
6. I am doing what I can to help support him.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:12 AM
Apr 2021

It will be a travesty if he is. People are discussing Caitlin Jenner running this morning because she filed to run.

JI7

(89,276 posts)
45. Newsom is not unpopular the way Davis was. And Schwarzenegger
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 03:53 AM
Apr 2021

was the popular candidate that people had to support .

This time there is nobody else.

And Schwarzenegger ended up being a horrible governor so people remember that.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. My feeling exactly
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:08 AM
Apr 2021

It is frankly insulting that people vote for individuals for Senator, Governor, or President that have no prior public service experience. At a minimum they should have been a staffer at the state or federal level or held a state office of some sort (state Representative/Senator or statewide position like AG).

I give a like bit of break for US Representatives since these are two year terms, but I still would like to see some prior relevant experience.

3catwoman3

(24,055 posts)
13. Prior relevant experience matters for just about...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
Apr 2021

...any job you can think of except top level political jobs. Odd, to say the least.

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
12. Given her voting record, or rather LACK of voting record, this induces a major eye roll from me
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
Apr 2021

I feel like it's a repeat of trump* in 2015, meaning I sense a major publicity grab with little anticipation of winning.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
19. Slurs against a community aren't just hurting the person in question
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021

It matters, not because of her, but because of the message it sends to and about other trans people. There are plenty of ways to call her out that don’t attack for her trans identity.

hlthe2b

(102,409 posts)
16. You left out her being part of that damned Kardashian clan celebrity culture. That's enough for me.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:45 AM
Apr 2021

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
17. Oh her being trans is ABSOLUTELY an issue
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

When Republicans are terrorizing trans people in legislatures across the country her hypocrisy in running as a Republican is astounding and nauseating.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
20. Fair point, however there is a difference between
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021

Attacking someone for being Trans because it seems an easy target and pointing out hypocrisy in policies/stances.

PortTack

(32,803 posts)
23. I don't see the post you replied to as saying anything derogatory about the LBGQT community
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:14 PM
Apr 2021

It only pointed out just how unqualified and hypocritical jenner is being

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
25. Don't take issue with that, or the post I responded to.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:20 PM
Apr 2021

Trying to clarify that my original post was talking about transphobic responses to Caitlyn Jenner and her possible run not being ok... not valid call-outs of hypocrisy.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
27. It will.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:39 PM
Apr 2021

It really should be, and hopefully will be, moot. Newsom should absolutely not be recalled. He’s done a really good job navigating an awful situation, and his approach had helped keep this pandemic from raging completely out of control here.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
29. No it will not
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:44 PM
Apr 2021

It will further inflame the ant-trans sentiment on the march across the country... putting more people in danger. By running on the ticket of a party that is blatantly and savagely anti-trans she is personally responsible for further stoking this hatred.
She is a tone-deaf, supremely self-centered, privileged scumbag... isolated from the effects of her actions

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
28. Jenner Is A Republican Nuff Said
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
Apr 2021

Being wrong about everything does not qualify anyone for any office.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
30. Republicans can't even let her go pee
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:44 PM
Apr 2021

I can’t even imagine support from a hard core Central Valley- Nunes cow -Christians idiots

peppertree

(21,677 posts)
31. I'm glad she's running - it'll give the GOP field a clown car atmosphere
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:45 PM
Apr 2021

Not that they needed the intrepid Ms. Jenner for that.

getagrip_already

(14,864 posts)
32. wll, she is mentally unstable.....
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:48 PM
Apr 2021

Anyone associated with kardashians can't be all clear headed. Not sure if she got it from them, or visa-versa, but she is a pathetic right wing attention hound.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
33. This is magical thinking at its worst
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:48 PM
Apr 2021

We need to move past the idea that people with no government background or experience can somehow successfully administer and manage the eighth largest economy in the world. It takes much more than celebrity and hubris to be the governor of California.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
35. The elephant in the room isn't the one you have to ride.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:51 PM
Apr 2021

Sometimes, there are other things that should become more glaringly obvious.

Good for you for pointing that out!

Hekate

(90,848 posts)
36. Last time we went thru this crap, a bajillion "candidates" popped up, looking for publicity...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:30 PM
Apr 2021

IIRC there is some woman in Hollywood known only for her selfie billboards (what else can I call them when she pus them up herself?) Angelyne I think. Anyway, she got on the ballot, along with a whole lot of other non-politicians who had no shot at winning and they knew it. It was bloody marvellous how they muddied the waters and split the votes up.

I do not like the recall initiative. I do not trust it. I think it is yet another GOP “cheat,” to deprive Democrats of offices they hold by election.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
47. Yes that's Angelyne, she drives a pink car with her name on the license plate
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 04:06 AM
Apr 2021

I actually saw her driving around awhile back.

miyazaki

(2,253 posts)
41. Ya didn't she kill someone driving recklessly?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 05:55 PM
Apr 2021

Or was she a he at the time?

Probably just paid for that to all go away the fuckwad.

msongs

(67,459 posts)
42. she rear ended a car making it swerve and the driver died. not charged with a crime
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:31 PM
Apr 2021

even tho it was her poor driving that caused the crash.

intheflow

(28,505 posts)
44. She was always a "she".
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 03:22 AM
Apr 2021

She was assumed male because she was born with a penis, but she's always been a she in her own mind.

Dorian Gray

(13,503 posts)
49. Yes
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 07:15 AM
Apr 2021

And that she is famous primarily because of her years on Reality TV, and after the leadership of the last Reality TV shithead, we don't need another. (Yes, I know her years as an Olympic Athlete also, but it her family connections that make her really famous.)

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