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brooklynite

(94,728 posts)
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 07:35 AM Apr 2021

Liberals want to expand the Supreme Court. Many Democrats disagree.

Politico

Supreme Court expansion was one of the left’s most galvanizing ideas during the 2020 Democratic primary. But the idea is going nowhere with sitting Democratic senators.

“I don’t think the American public is interested in having the Supreme Court expanded,” said Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.).

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), who represents a particularly valuable swing state, said “the more responsible thing to do is to keep it at nine justices.” And Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.) said she opposes “adding seats that politicize the court.”

That trio is facing reelection in 2022, making their opinions particularly important to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). But as Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) formally pushes for high court expansion, resurfacing the popular progressive cause in response to the GOP’s relentless drive to fill court seats during the Trump years, it’s clear that few of Markey’s colleagues agree with him.
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Liberals want to expand the Supreme Court. Many Democrats disagree. (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2021 OP
Politico is the concerned little gop helper Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #1
So a political news website shouldn't report on political news? brooklynite Apr 2021 #7
So a right-leaning website shouldn't publish biased stories? dpibel Apr 2021 #13
Stop. Politico is NOT right leaning. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #14
Really? dpibel Apr 2021 #16
Your own source/link has them as left-center. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #17
Sadly I don't think we will see the court expanded dsc Apr 2021 #2
Very well stated. gab13by13 Apr 2021 #4
This far right court, gab13by13 Apr 2021 #3
How is the SC not politicized now? Nt MiHale Apr 2021 #5
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #6
Let's please not give Political undue level of legitimacy it doesn't deserve msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #8
The number was set at 9 when we had 9 circuit courts Bettie Apr 2021 #9
A large majority of Democrats ARE liberals. We are the LIBERAL party Hortensis Apr 2021 #10
I'm much more interested in abolishing the senate Johonny Apr 2021 #11
A unicameral legislature would suck. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2021 #15
Moderates: "Let's just wait and see what the fascists do before we take any action to Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 2021 #12
The current SC will destroy this country BradAllison Apr 2021 #18

dpibel

(2,852 posts)
16. Really?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:24 PM
Apr 2021

Might not be quite as self-evident as you proclaim:

"Both sides of the political spectrum have accused Politico of either having a left or right bias. For example, Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog group in Washington, has accused them of having a 'Republican tilt.'”

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/

IIRC, Charlie Pierce refers to Politico as "Tiger Beat on the Potomac."

And Charlie's been doing politics for a while.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
17. Your own source/link has them as left-center.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:30 PM
Apr 2021

And "Tiger Beat on the Potomac" would have more to say about the quality of their journalism than their political slant. Which I'm not arguing at all.

Media Bias Chart gives a pretty unbiased rating of sources, as well.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
2. Sadly I don't think we will see the court expanded
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 07:44 AM
Apr 2021

and because of that, liberal governance will become nearly impossible. Once Chevron falls, and fall it will, then Congress won't be able to pass any forward thinking legislation at all. Add in that abortion rights, LGBT rights, and gun regulations will be dead letters under this court. It is quite galling that in my lifetime we have won the popular vote in 76, 92, 96, 00, 08, 12, 16, and 20 while losing it in 68, 72, 80, 84, 88, and 04 but the justices appointed in that time frame have been 15 GOP and 4 Dem. Despite winning the popular vote a majority of the time we didn't even appoint 1/4 of the justices. And because of that I will die a fourth or fifth class citizen.

gab13by13

(21,405 posts)
3. This far right court,
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 07:49 AM
Apr 2021

is going to do a lot of damage to our country. The thing about controlling the Supreme Court is that the GQP doesn't even have to control the presidency or Congress to make policy.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
8. Let's please not give Political undue level of legitimacy it doesn't deserve
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:53 AM
Apr 2021

Of course there are and will be some disagreement which is quite normal, and natural. a lot to discuss and think through.

But please, let's not play up "divisions" over stuff that needs to be hashed out as if it meant the death of progress.

I don't understand the point of giving props to a journal that traffics in bs for the sake of clicks.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
9. The number was set at 9 when we had 9 circuit courts
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:57 AM
Apr 2021

it is logical to increase it to 13, as we have 13 circuit courts.

Raising it to 18 or 26 would allow for two panels to run at the same time, which would be more efficient as there were only about 32 million people in 1869 and there are 328 million now, which means more cases to decide.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. A large majority of Democrats ARE liberals. We are the LIBERAL party
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:00 AM
Apr 2021

dominated by the kind of people who created the world's first western liberal democracy.

As for disagreement on solutions and ways forward, of course. We're not ants.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)
11. I'm much more interested in abolishing the senate
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:02 AM
Apr 2021

But I bet senators disagree about that even more strongly

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
12. Moderates: "Let's just wait and see what the fascists do before we take any action to
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:13 AM
Apr 2021

deter them from destroying democracy in the US, by suppressing voting rights, and subsequently establish an authoritarian christo-fascist dictatorship with the full blessing of the RW judiciary."

What could possibly go wrong?

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
18. The current SC will destroy this country
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:33 PM
Apr 2021

Then maybe everyone will realize being a liberal is fucking smart. Too late.

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