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The Cops Have To Create Their Fake Incident Reports Before They Can Release The Video (Original Post) DanieRains Apr 2021 OP
And you know this how? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #1
Or maybe because cops frequently do just that StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #3
Dangerous crump? Not in your definition Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #5
Of course you think he's dangerous StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #9
He also seems to be a very competent attorney AZProgressive Apr 2021 #7
Ben Crump doesn't scream. He's a very competent, non-screaming lawyer. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #4
This isn't the first time he was characterized that why by him/her StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #10
Okay not screaming Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #12
You might want to try that crap with someone else who thinks it's clever StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #14
We all do. IrishAfricanAmerican Apr 2021 #22
Indeed StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #33
Crump knows the time it takes police departments to release body cam shooting videos is directly sop Apr 2021 #13
Precisely StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #16
No doubt he has in mind the report the Minneapolis PD filed about George Floyd, Ocelot II Apr 2021 #18
And that's just one of the ones we know about StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #20
In some states the police don't have the ability to just release bodycam video unilaterally. Jedi Guy Apr 2021 #24
True, PDs get the courts to get shit done quickly when they can show justification. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #31
right ?! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #30
IKR !? The cops ... NEVER EVER ... do janky shit like that hunh ?! 🙄🙄🙄 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #29
If as promised by local officials, they FAIL to file in court this morning to release the video then hlthe2b Apr 2021 #2
They Could Have Filed Right After Shooting Just In Case DanieRains Apr 2021 #6
Right !!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #11
Your op is exactly right. As a former defense attorney who has watched countless codefendants Solomon Apr 2021 #25
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Apr 2021 #32
NC really messed up this at the state level dsc Apr 2021 #8
I like everyone else really want to see the video Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #15
Sorry For The Negative OP But I Have Seen This Movie Before DanieRains Apr 2021 #17
I'm surprised EndlessWire Apr 2021 #26
Also it was reported this morning that they haven't finishe redacting it. brush Apr 2021 #19
Most Cops Are Republicans Asking Them To Be Smarter Is Like Telling A Fish To Learn To Breathe Air DanieRains Apr 2021 #21
Well, there is that. brush Apr 2021 #23
And don't you mean before they can release their "doctored video?" joetheman Apr 2021 #27
Is this a situation where the DOJ could step in? Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #28

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
1. And you know this how?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:05 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Because crump was just talking very loud about it on sidewalk?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. Or maybe because cops frequently do just that
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:09 PM
Apr 2021

But here we go again with "Crump screaming"I've heard Attorney Crump speak many times. I've never heard him scream.

But maybe just like some people see Black men as more dangerous than they would see a white person, some people also assume Black people are "screaming" when they are speaking in a normal tone of voice.

I can only imagine what you would have been saying about Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and and John Lewis back in the day - people often accused them of screaming, too whenever they said things that made white people the least bit uncomfortable.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
5. Dangerous crump? Not in your definition
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:13 PM
Apr 2021

He just stood out there and tossed matches in a bucket of gasoline with implications of conspiracy.

Yea he's dangerous

Ocelot II

(115,836 posts)
4. Ben Crump doesn't scream. He's a very competent, non-screaming lawyer.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

Is it screaming only when Black people comment about Black people getting killed by police?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
10. This isn't the first time he was characterized that why by him/her
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:33 PM
Apr 2021

They were corrected before, so this is not a slip.

Competent, passionate, eloquent and effective Black men scare the shish out of some people.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
33. Indeed
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 04:05 PM
Apr 2021

"Black person is talking too loud" = "Black person is talking loud enough for me to hear him and I don't like what he's saying."

sop

(10,243 posts)
13. Crump knows the time it takes police departments to release body cam shooting videos is directly
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:45 PM
Apr 2021

proportional to the officer's degree of culpability. If the video exonerates the cop, it'll be out there faster than it takes a trigger happy racist cop to gun down an unarmed black man. When the video is damning, you have to pry the body cam video out of their cold, dead hands, and cop fluffers start attacking the family's attorney

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. Precisely
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:48 PM
Apr 2021

And his knowledge, experience and ability to eloquently put the public on notice about what's happening are primary reasons people feel the need to try to diminish and smear him with racist dog whistles.

Ocelot II

(115,836 posts)
18. No doubt he has in mind the report the Minneapolis PD filed about George Floyd,
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:22 PM
Apr 2021

that he had a "medical incident" and died at the hospital. If it hadn't been for Darnella Frazier's video the truth might never have come out. It might never have even been investigated. So Crump has every right to emphatically demand the release of the videos in this case.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
20. And that's just one of the ones we know about
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:30 PM
Apr 2021

Isn't it funny how often, when there's a video, the video contradicts the original story?

Police have a long history of lying and creating false records regarding the killing and abuse of black victims. And yet, people here are acting as if the fact that Benjamin Crump is skeptical makes him some kind of wild-eyed-crazy dangerous person.

The question isn't why is Attorney Crump distrustful of the police story. The question is why isn't EVERYBODY? You have to be ignorant or just a flat out idiot (or something else) to take what they say at face value.

Jedi Guy

(3,247 posts)
24. In some states the police don't have the ability to just release bodycam video unilaterally.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:18 PM
Apr 2021

It has to go through the courts, and a judge has to issue an order to release the video. Not sure if that's the case in this particular incident, though.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
2. If as promised by local officials, they FAIL to file in court this morning to release the video then
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:06 PM
Apr 2021

I agree. At first, I thought that was a BS excuse, but it does appear NC law is somewhat different/specific on this compared to most states, so that it may well be true that local LE and officials do not have the unilateral authority to release.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
6. They Could Have Filed Right After Shooting Just In Case
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:16 PM
Apr 2021

I would bet my retirement they won't tell the whole truth.

Solomon

(12,319 posts)
25. Your op is exactly right. As a former defense attorney who has watched countless codefendants
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:20 PM
Apr 2021

not being able to tell the same story EVEN while watching each other testify, ... with 7 to 10 defendants, they will take forever to craft a story. It won't work though. Too many perpetrators.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
8. NC really messed up this at the state level
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:21 PM
Apr 2021

which does give time for the locality to watch the video and comport their report with the video. One hopes they won't do so, but the history of police behavior doesn't inform that hope. Elizabeth City is a majority Black city in a majority white county. The shooting is by the sheriff's dept not the city police.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
15. I like everyone else really want to see the video
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:45 PM
Apr 2021

Unless the victim was trying to run over a police officer this department and officer are in deep crap.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
17. Sorry For The Negative OP But I Have Seen This Movie Before
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:52 PM
Apr 2021

Actually many times before. Then a bunch more times. Then a lot of times before too. Then some more times.

If the police were without fault, then the video would be out there already.

EndlessWire

(6,565 posts)
26. I'm surprised
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:33 PM
Apr 2021

that they told anyone they are redacting. But, perhaps they just want to hide the point at which he died. They often don't show stuff like that, by using freeze frame. They can't count on each individual outlet to be responsible like that. At this point, I want to see the whole thing.

Here in Cali, I remember a guy involved in a police chase. who got cornered on a freeway bridge. The helicopters had an excellent view of what happened next. It was utterly gruesome. After that, they instituted. on their own, policies against showing everything. And, that particular corner of hell got redacted completely.

Not everything is a danged conspiracy. If there is anything at all to exonerate what they did, they'll show it no matter what it costs. My guess is one cop shot without reason, and the rest piled on. But, we'll see.

brush

(53,847 posts)
19. Also it was reported this morning that they haven't finishe redacting it.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:26 PM
Apr 2021

WTH? Doesn't redacting mean blacking something out, or on a video editing/blurring something or deleting something?

Those cops must've really fucked up if the video is that bad.

This just proves we need smarter cops. Smarter cops wouldn't perform so poorly that they have to hide the video long enough to redact/edit it.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
21. Most Cops Are Republicans Asking Them To Be Smarter Is Like Telling A Fish To Learn To Breathe Air
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:11 PM
Apr 2021

Sorry....

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