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no_hypocrisy

(46,229 posts)
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:19 AM Apr 2021

The audit of the vote in Maricopa County (Arizona)

All results should be discredited and be considered invalid.

The votes have potentially been corrupted and changed by virtue of two things:

1) Blue and black-inked pens were used to mark up some ballots, thereby changing their pristine status, and

2) No government agency was monitoring their "audit".

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The audit of the vote in Maricopa County (Arizona) (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 OP
They're not looking for validity they're looking for a talking point Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #1
The "auditors" have 2 specific outcomes in mind. LastDemocratInSC Apr 2021 #5
"Audit" should ALWAYS be in quotation marks when referencing this sham. bullwinkle428 Apr 2021 #2
Ballot Adjustment in Maricopa County. Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #10
Question: What do you call evidence that hasn't been handled properly or given to an outside FSogol Apr 2021 #3
Inadmissible? Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #11
Exactly, once the Trumpites touch the data, it becomes inadmissible and FSogol Apr 2021 #14
This is quite literally how actual elections are conducted in Putin's Russia Tommy Carcetti Apr 2021 #4
That "audit" is meaningless and has no legal function. MineralMan Apr 2021 #6
.... triron Apr 2021 #12
According to Rachel, the blue/black pens were only used on sample ballots, not real ones Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #7
The people behind "Cyber Ninjas" need to have the Justice Dept thrown at them. Send in the FBI. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Apr 2021 #8
AZ judge ruled for the Dems last Friday and the count was stopped. The judge then found out PortTack Apr 2021 #9
It was??? Not what Rachel has reported. triron Apr 2021 #13
Here's the link to the judge stopping the count PortTack Apr 2021 #16
It's not really an "official" thing. It carries no legal weight. Happy Hoosier Apr 2021 #15
This is nothing more than political theater. Apparently they plan on taking it on the Vinca Apr 2021 #17
But big political theater. I heard the right is very excited about this. Hortensis Apr 2021 #18

Fullduplexxx

(7,872 posts)
1. They're not looking for validity they're looking for a talking point
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:50 AM
Apr 2021

Something they can wavy around to say see it was rigged . This is all to assuage trump who cant face the fact that he lost . He would rather say I didnt lose it was stolen . Imo

LastDemocratInSC

(3,652 posts)
5. The "auditors" have 2 specific outcomes in mind.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 09:20 AM
Apr 2021

Flynn mentioned it on Monday (maybe Sunday): Show that Trump won the state and that Kelly lost the senate race. The "auditors" are not objective.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
10. Ballot Adjustment in Maricopa County.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:57 AM
Apr 2021

Audits document irregularities and errors. They don't make wholesale changes to the accounting books.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but during the election and counting, there are Democrats and Republicans serving as poll watchers and vote counters, no?

The GOP is just mad they're not allowed to intimidate voters into voting their way when they can't prevent them from voting in the first place.

FSogol

(45,533 posts)
3. Question: What do you call evidence that hasn't been handled properly or given to an outside
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:54 AM
Apr 2021

interested party?

FSogol

(45,533 posts)
14. Exactly, once the Trumpites touch the data, it becomes inadmissible and
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 11:06 AM
Apr 2021

the original certified results remain. This is just theater and fundraising for their idiotic followers.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,209 posts)
4. This is quite literally how actual elections are conducted in Putin's Russia
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:56 AM
Apr 2021

It’s Managed Democracy, a sham meant to give the appearance of a fair vote.

Only difference here is that it’s thankfully just an audit and not the official tallying, but it’s still extremely dangerous in trying to manufacture public opinion and create baseless questions of legitimacy of a fair vote.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
6. That "audit" is meaningless and has no legal function.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 09:23 AM
Apr 2021

The election is over. It is finished. All constitutional requirements have been completed.

No court would accept anything from this "audit" for any purpose.

It is total bullshit.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,669 posts)
7. According to Rachel, the blue/black pens were only used on sample ballots, not real ones
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:25 AM
Apr 2021

They switched to red/green pens before touching actual ballots, thanks to a challenge by a local reporter.

The audit should be dismissed because of a lack of transparency and lack of accreditation/expertise by the sham auditor.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
8. The people behind "Cyber Ninjas" need to have the Justice Dept thrown at them. Send in the FBI.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:32 AM
Apr 2021

An assault on democracy like this needs to be rewarded with ruined lives and lifelong prison sentences for the key players.

PortTack

(32,803 posts)
9. AZ judge ruled for the Dems last Friday and the count was stopped. The judge then found out
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:56 AM
Apr 2021

That a person working on the count had clerked for him, so he recused himself. As soon as a new judge is in place, this nonsense will stop. It’s more kraken than sydney powell

PortTack

(32,803 posts)
16. Here's the link to the judge stopping the count
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 12:24 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142733790

The judge had to then recused himself because a person working on the count had clerked for him...conflict of interest. They are in the process of assigning a new judge

Happy Hoosier

(7,407 posts)
15. It's not really an "official" thing. It carries no legal weight.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

Arizona cannot invalidate it's election results.

This is a propaganda tool which will be used as an excuse to impose draconian election laws to disenfranchise people.

The GQP realizes that they cannot win fair elections. So they've decided to make sure they don't face fair elections.

Vinca

(50,313 posts)
17. This is nothing more than political theater. Apparently they plan on taking it on the
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 12:27 PM
Apr 2021

road and hitting more states with similar events. I can't imagine why 1) any legislature would put taxpayers on the hook for this bullshit and 2) how they can hand over legal ballots to a group of random Trump-humping bozos.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. But big political theater. I heard the right is very excited about this.
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 01:36 PM
Apr 2021

They're eager for the phony "recount" that'll prove to the world what they know -- that the presidency was stolen. More and more conservatives now believe this, and more and more people who didn't now don't know what to think.

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