What do you suppose the Elizabeth City Police are hiding?

[CatWoman]

why won't they release the entire tape of Andrew Brown's shooting?

[soothsayer]

1. Excellent question. I wonder too.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

2. Maybe nothing maybe a lot

Dirty cops killing a dealer that knows to much?

One rouge cop thinking we'll he's not getting away?

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

13. There was a report he was caught on surveillance

Selling to this "informant"

More I think about it possible dirty druggy police officer?

[Vinca]

3. Murder.

The man was shot in the back fleeing. These cases really puzzle me. If someone gets away it's not as if you'll never be able to find them again. Maybe it's an ego thing with some of these cops. They seem to think someone getting away temporarily is worse than killing them. I know they're allowed to shoot sometimes if it's a fleeing felon - don't agree with that either - but if it's a nonviolent crime to begin with the cop shouldn't be judge, jury and executioner. IMO opinion, the only cases where lethal force is justified is an imminent threat to life to either the cop or another person.

[StarfishSaver]

5. It's illegal to shoot at a fleeing felon

unless they pose immediate danger of causing deadly harm - such as they are shooting a gun at the cop while running, not just that they're running or even that they may have a gun in their possession.

Every cop in America is trained to know this. They shoot people in the back anyway.

[Vinca]

9. Laws vary depending on what state you're in.

[StarfishSaver]

11. Not on this issue

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that it is unconstitutional to shoot a fleeing felon. That applies everywhere in the United States and all police departments are bound by this, regardless where they're located.

[Vinca]

20. A fleeing unarmed felon who poses no threat to others.

Notice how many cops are charged. Most states have laws that say something to the effect that if an officer has a "reasonable belief" the felon is armed and dangerous . . . yada, yada, yada. So the kid with the cell phone that "looks like a gun pointing right at me" is dead and the cop isn't charged. It happens over and over and over and over and over again.

[StarfishSaver]

21. A fleeing felon is presumed to pose no threat without an affirmative showing

Someone running away is not a threat unless they are doing something immediately threatening, like pointing/firing a gun. Possessing a gun is not sufficient.

Yes, cops often lie to get around those Constitutional restrictions - they do it with most Constitutional protections of criminal suspects and defendants, not just In relation to people who are running away. But the rule itself applies nationwide and doesn't vary state by state.

[Vinca]

22. If you were correct in your assumptions, there would be a whole lot more people alive and a

whole lot more cops in jail. We exist in the world as it is, not as we want it to be.

[StarfishSaver]

23. I'm not making "assumptions"

I'm trying to explain Constitutional and criminal law to you since you were misstating it.

But whatever. Assume whatever you like.

[11 Bravo]

4. I'll go out on a limb and say it's nothing exculpatory of the cops.

[underpants]

6. I think they opened up on him.

Not quite Sonny Corleone level but there was some lead flying to hit him 5 times moving away from them in a car. I haven’t seen any video but that’s a lot if it’s with handguns.


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[11 Bravo]

7. It's almost like in response to the Chauvin verdict, some cops ...

are saying, "Oh yeah? Well watch this shit!"

[StarfishSaver]

12. It is starting to look like that, isn't it?

[underpants]

15. That was my take on Chauvin too

Being a tough guy for the rookies.

[CatWoman]

19. or rather

"hold my beer"..............

[MineralMan]

8. Probably the pointy white hoods in their closets.

That's my guess.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. Dunno, but it must be pretty damned bad.

I'm to the point where I automatically assume the absolute worst, until independent evidence shows otherwise.

They've lied and covered up so much that I can't give them any benefit of the doubt.

[Withywindle]

16. +1

That's where I'm at too. The video we DO see is horrific enough that the stuff we don't must be even worse. And cops get away with murder more often than not, so they don't have much to fear unless it's really egregious.

[Ace Rothstein]

14. An execution.

[Iggo]

17. Murder.

[Phoenix61]

18. It's not Elizabeth City. The shooting was by a County Sheriff.

There is nothing the city can do except try to keep the situation from getting completely out of control.