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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:14 PM May 2021

As landlords and tenants go broke across the U.S., the next crisis point of the pandemic approaches

SCHENECTADY, N.Y. — The landlord had highlighted the first of the month on his office calendar and marked it as “Pay Day,” but now the first had come and gone, the one-week grace period was ending, and for the 13th consecutive month, Romeo Budhoo had collected less than half of his total rent. “Time to try begging for it,” he said, and he grabbed his booklet of receipts and walked out to his car.

He drove through the low-income neighborhoods of Schenectady, stopping at a half-dozen small homes that accounted for most of his income and all of his family’s savings. He cajoled $75 in cash from a laid-off hairdresser who owed him more than $7,000. “Thanks for at least trying to work with me,” he wrote on the rental receipt. He collected $200 from a renter who was $1,600 behind. “I’ll come back tomorrow,” Budhoo said, and then he continued up the street to his oldest property, a three-story home that had helped lift him into the middle class and was now sending him closer to bankruptcy.

Budhoo parked in front and flipped through his receipts. The tenant owed more than $12,000, and on the porch Budhoo saw a pile of warnings and eviction notices dating back almost a year.

“No more grace periods,” read one from last fall. “Pay now or leave.”

In the covid economy of 2021, the federal government has created an ongoing grace period for renters until at least July, banning all evictions in an effort to hold back a historic housing crisis that is already underway. More than 8 million rental properties across the country are behind on payments by an average of $5,600, according to census data. Nearly half of those rental properties are owned not by banks or big corporations but instead by what the government classifies as “small landlords” — people who manage their own rentals and depend on them for basic income, and who are now trapped between tenants who can’t pay and their own mounting bills for insurance, mortgages and property tax. According to government estimates, a third of small landlords are at risk of bankruptcy or foreclosure as the pandemic continues into its second year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/01/landlord-tenant-eviction-moratorium-pandemic/?itid=hp-top-table-main-0430b

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As landlords and tenants go broke across the U.S., the next crisis point of the pandemic approaches (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
I have been wondering what the fall out is going to be Re: the rent/mortgage grace period tulipsandroses May 2021 #1
And then what happens when the owners can't pay the real estate taxes dhol82 May 2021 #2
As one of those small landlords hurple May 2021 #3
If I may ask where are your properties located? Captain Zero May 2021 #11
check your DU mail hurple May 2021 #13
For most small business landlords just use the rent money they collect to pay world wide wally May 2021 #4
Maintenance has probably suffered as well, so properties are getting run down. Klaralven May 2021 #17
The no-eviction edict has been terribly unfair to landlords. NH Ethylene May 2021 #5
I 100% agree! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #6
the forever nature of not paying rent NJCher May 2021 #10
If the lender doesn't foreclose on the landlord first. GoodRaisin May 2021 #14
Landlords are mostly still afloat due to banks putting loans in forbearance Amishman May 2021 #18
I agree. Demsrule86 May 2021 #19
But what about all of the illegal apartments? Polybius May 2021 #24
Really a bad situation. Ongoing grace periods just allow the debt to accumulate captain queeg May 2021 #7
Large real estate rental companies must be salivating to buy up these properties. Pobeka May 2021 #8
They've buying up properties for a while now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #22
It's the Shock Doctrine - profit by exploitation of disasters. Towlie May 2021 #25
This is why I agree with Gov. Cuomo's decision to re-open NY on May 16th. Yavin4 May 2021 #9
So, what is the purely Conservative solution to this problem? Baked Potato May 2021 #12
The crash is coming and you'd be pretty blind to not see it coming ansible May 2021 #15
That's when we see TRULY unlimited quantitative easing from the Federal Reserve. roamer65 May 2021 #16
Joe Biden believes otherwise. Elessar Zappa May 2021 #23
It was a difficult situation Johnny2X2X May 2021 #20
Some landlords in Jacksonville NC are lucky. marie999 May 2021 #21

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
1. I have been wondering what the fall out is going to be Re: the rent/mortgage grace period
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:19 PM
May 2021

At some point those bills are going to become due. I don't know if all those people that owe back rent or back mortgage will be able to pay what they owe. Then what?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. And then what happens when the owners can't pay the real estate taxes
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:30 PM
May 2021

I’m waiting for NYC to report on the fallout.
We are in deep shit here for soooooooo many reasons.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
3. As one of those small landlords
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:49 PM
May 2021

I am thankful every month that 1. I have a good job and the rentals are meant to be post-retirement income, not my current income and 2. Half my renters have jobs that allow them to WFH so I have been pretty much breaking even so far. (My 2020 taxes showed a loss of just $423 on the properties.)

Unfortunately, 5 other rental properties in town, that I have had my eye on, just went up for sale, but I don't have the ability to even think of making an offer now. Dagnabbit!

I'm sure the landlord of those properties are having to sell because of non-payment of rent through this, and I wouldn't want to get embroiled in that mess anyway.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
4. For most small business landlords just use the rent money they collect to pay
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:49 PM
May 2021

the mortgages. They just hope for a long term profit if the property increases in value, They are not mini Trumps,

NH Ethylene

(30,817 posts)
5. The no-eviction edict has been terribly unfair to landlords.
Mon May 3, 2021, 09:51 PM
May 2021

It also has resulted in tenants who are hopelessly behind on rent. As soon as it lifts, they will be evicted, and no other landlord will rent to them.

Part of the money sent to households should have been in the form of rent or mortgage vouchers, in my opinion.

NJCher

(35,721 posts)
10. the forever nature of not paying rent
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:35 PM
May 2021

It also has resulted in tenants who are hopelessly behind on rent. As soon as it lifts, they will be evicted, and no other landlord will rent to them.


++Because there are all these services to landlords where a potential tenant can be checked in a heartbeat for a very low price, like about $35. Some of the time, landlords just require the cost of that check to be covered by the tenant when they submit their application.

To see what I mean, use search terms like "tenant background check" or "eviction history check."

However, I think landlords develop a "gut feel" about who is a good tenant and who isn't. I think many landlords might question a tenant about items in a report to be sure it's correct or that there is another side to the story.



GoodRaisin

(8,928 posts)
14. If the lender doesn't foreclose on the landlord first.
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:13 AM
May 2021

Of course, at which time the tenant will be put out on the street anyway.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
18. Landlords are mostly still afloat due to banks putting loans in forbearance
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:09 AM
May 2021

Plus property tax hasn't been paused for pretty much every area.

Joe and congress need to put together a comprehensive plan to stabilize our real estate market:

Assistance for paying back rent

Assistance for landlords, businesses, and home owners on state/local property tax.

Guidance for transitioning back into both allowing evictions and restarting loan obligations. This cannot be a cliff, we need a soft return to normal practices.

Putting a brake on skyrocketing building materials prices. Temporarily suspend tariffs on lumber and other building materials completely. Put restrictions on traders in commodities like lumber, copper, and other traded building related raw materials - keep the speculators out of those markets while things are unstable.

Polybius

(15,475 posts)
24. But what about all of the illegal apartments?
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:55 PM
May 2021

Millions aren't registered. At least in NY, you have to register an apartment. It can cost $1,000's to get it on record.

captain queeg

(10,240 posts)
7. Really a bad situation. Ongoing grace periods just allow the debt to accumulate
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:08 PM
May 2021

A lot of people will never be able to pay it all back. I don’t have an answer but postponing 100% of the rent that is due doesn’t seem like a good idea. Even if 50-75% was delayed it would give the landlords some income, allow the renter to hang on...if 100% of what was owed was delayed it sure seems to make default that much more likely.

I’m thinking of renters here, but there must be a lot of people who are buying their home and making payments. At least these folks have an investment they don’t want to walk away from.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
8. Large real estate rental companies must be salivating to buy up these properties.
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:25 PM
May 2021

It will be bargain basement prices for many rental properties.

I think that was part of the plan in the way rent was deferred -- not to benefit the renters so much as to set up this scenario where smaller landlords will be forced to sell properties for survival.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
9. This is why I agree with Gov. Cuomo's decision to re-open NY on May 16th.
Mon May 3, 2021, 10:30 PM
May 2021

We have to get things back to normal and fast. We have to get people back to work full time.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
12. So, what is the purely Conservative solution to this problem?
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:01 PM
May 2021

The very people who were temporarily helped will end up in worse shape. It was a government program, so is government the ultimate responsible entity to fix it all?

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
15. The crash is coming and you'd be pretty blind to not see it coming
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:22 AM
May 2021

Prepare yourselves, it's gonna make 2007 look like a walk in the park

Johnny2X2X

(19,110 posts)
20. It was a difficult situation
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:26 AM
May 2021

It became a political issue and there are millions of renters who really needed help, but there are also tenants who took advantage of it, and small landlords know they will never see money from them, even if they sue.

In the end the small landlords lose and will end up selling their properties to larger rental agencies and corporations. And the renters will lose too, they owe money they can never pay, they're going to end up evicted and with bad credit going forward that will make it difficult to rent. And the real estate boom right now is causing rent to soar nationwide.

Politicians did what they thought was best and right, but there are unintended consequences that are about to become a reality for many.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
21. Some landlords in Jacksonville NC are lucky.
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:35 AM
May 2021

They rent to military families only. If I was still in the military and near the end of my enlistment I would definitely reenlist.

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