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LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:26 AM May 2021

Leaked data reveals a surprising fact about who funds the Proud Boys

According to a report from USA Today, the Proud Boys were the recipients of a flood of donations after they were involved in Washington, D.C. street skirmishes in late December -- just weeks before the Jan. 6th Capitol insurrection.

Of note, the reports states, is the fact that more than 80 percent of the money that came through the Proud Boys' GoSendGo crowdfunding page came from contributors with Chinese surnames.

USA Today is reporting that, based on information provided to them by the whistleblower site Distributed Denial of Secrets, $106,107 was raised for medical costs with the bulk coming on late in the evening of Dec 17th.

According to the report, "A donor named Li Zhang gave $100. A few minutes later, someone named Jun Li donated $100. Then Hao Xu gave $20, followed shortly by $25 from a Ying Pei. In all, almost 1,000 people with Chinese surnames gave about $86,000, which the led USA Today's Will Carless to write, "Why would people from China, Hong Kong and Taiwan, and members of the Chinese American community, donate to an organization with deep ties to white supremacists, whose members flash white power signals and post racist memes on social media?"

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https://www.alternet.org/2021/05/proud-boys/

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Leaked data reveals a surprising fact about who funds the Proud Boys (Original Post) LiberalArkie May 2021 OP
Intriguing. Connected to the Chinese government, perhaps? lagomorph777 May 2021 #1
Or maybe fake names to implicate China into it? Escurumbele May 2021 #19
Unfortunately, Turd weakened us and opened the door to more than one foreign enemy. lagomorph777 May 2021 #21
As has "Citizens United" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #26
But they accepted the money from "China" as opposed to Russia... lame54 May 2021 #22
These are real people who've left China - https://democraticunderground.com/100215399516 marble falls May 2021 #35
Epoch Times propaganda swallowers. blm May 2021 #2
This. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2021 #4
Epoch Times equals stinking RW garbage. hadEnuf May 2021 #10
I bet you nailed it. nt reACTIONary May 2021 #38
Ding ding ding sir pball May 2021 #41
That's the first thing I thought too TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #43
Wonder if they're real names (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #3
Reminds me of "Sum Ting Wong, Wei Too Low, Ho Lee Fuk and Ding Bang Ow" after that.... RussellCattle May 2021 #16
Real names - marble falls May 2021 #36
It's painfully obvious.... SergeStorms May 2021 #5
Exactly what I'm thinking. KS Toronado May 2021 #14
Yes this is serious f ery. BlueNProud May 2021 #28
I'm not sure much can be read into this, frankly. MineralMan May 2021 #6
+1 pandr32 May 2021 #18
I think blm may have nailed it upthread... druidity33 May 2021 #40
I was wrong. I would've guessed Lane Bryant, Macy's, and Army-Navy Stores. Buns_of_Fire May 2021 #7
What's with the yellow skirts/kilts? IronLionZion May 2021 #17
"Aunt Tina"!! Heartstrings May 2021 #20
The yellow is for libertarianism or "anarcho-capitalism." David__77 May 2021 #24
It might channel a nice cool windy draft IronLionZion May 2021 #33
I thought the kilt was because sheep have uncannily sharp hearing DBoon May 2021 #39
Cooling for their tiny proud boy bits. lagomorph777 May 2021 #29
"Aunt Tifa"...LOL, that is great Escurumbele May 2021 #32
Makes sense. hadEnuf May 2021 #8
K&R, Read about China's "Cultural Revolution" and compare what the GQP is sending America uponit7771 May 2021 #9
You think proud boys meet in bars, drink a lot of beer? Just askin'... rickyhall May 2021 #11
"But mom said I can only have four people at a time in the basement, check out my OG X-Box." ... marble falls May 2021 #30
Alternet strikes again h2ebits May 2021 #12
You need to read words 4, 5, 6, and 7 from the OP Bernardo de La Paz May 2021 #25
The USAtoday article: progressoid May 2021 #27
trademarks--including for 'coffins'--The Trump family's cozy ties with China multigraincracker May 2021 #13
I think the donations are legit Tiger8 May 2021 #15
I guess they are Falun Gong supporters. David__77 May 2021 #23
Non paywall origional link to USAToday article ... marble falls May 2021 #31
It would be foolish to think only American credit card numbers have been stolen FakeNoose May 2021 #34
Divide America to Conquer same. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #37
And so the Proud Boys could just be "useful idiots" . . . Journeyman May 2021 #42

Escurumbele

(3,402 posts)
19. Or maybe fake names to implicate China into it?
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:58 PM
May 2021

Let us not forget that republicans love to blame everything on China while keeping blames away from Russia.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. Unfortunately, Turd weakened us and opened the door to more than one foreign enemy.
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:04 PM
May 2021

But, yes, it's possibly a false-flag operation. Seems like a stretch, though, because the names only came out after a hack.

lame54

(35,321 posts)
22. But they accepted the money from "China" as opposed to Russia...
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:05 PM
May 2021

How does that make them look good?

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
10. Epoch Times equals stinking RW garbage.
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:51 AM
May 2021

Besides, I can't stand that little dick they have on their TV commercials.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)
41. Ding ding ding
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:15 PM
May 2021

I had the profound displeasure of being in DC, literally 1.5 blocks from the Capitol, for the first "Stop The Steal" circus in November (December?); a fairly large subset of that group was Chinese exiles who've gone absolutely bonkers for Trump's virulent anti-"CCP" message. Nothing (particularly) nefarious about these donations.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
43. That's the first thing I thought too
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:59 AM
May 2021

Interesting since there's so much anti-Asian violence lately because if Trump and his whole "Chinese flu" bullshit.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
16. Reminds me of "Sum Ting Wong, Wei Too Low, Ho Lee Fuk and Ding Bang Ow" after that....
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:30 PM
May 2021

....airliner crashed in San Francisco.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
5. It's painfully obvious....
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:43 AM
May 2021

that the enemies of the United States will do, and are doing, anything they can to destroy the country from within. Americans are so shallow and self-centered they'll tear each other to shreds over the littlest thing. China and Russia are more than happy to supply those "little things" via Facebook and Twitter. They believe they can destroy this country from within without ever firing a shot.
From what I've seen in the past few decades, they're probably correct.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
6. I'm not sure much can be read into this, frankly.
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:44 AM
May 2021

1000 donors gave a total of $86,000. Small potatoes, really, with no donations over $100, apparently.

It might mean something, but that something may not be not particularly significant, really.

I'm not sure any conclusions can be drawn from just this information.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
40. I think blm may have nailed it upthread...
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:59 PM
May 2021

Moonies. Makes perfect sense to me. Epoch Times coaligns with all Trumfuckery. It's like tithing to them.



David__77

(23,501 posts)
24. The yellow is for libertarianism or "anarcho-capitalism."
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:08 PM
May 2021

The kilt is an attempt to channel “European culture.”

DBoon

(22,397 posts)
39. I thought the kilt was because sheep have uncannily sharp hearing
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:21 PM
May 2021

the can hear a zipper being undone for miles away.

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
8. Makes sense.
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:48 AM
May 2021

Trump and his Brownshirts accused Biden of being in the pockets of the Chinese, so naturally it was Trump who was in the pockets of the Chinese.

Either that or they were setting up the Asian community for the forthcoming brutal terrorist assaults that we are now seeing.

uponit7771

(90,363 posts)
9. K&R, Read about China's "Cultural Revolution" and compare what the GQP is sending America
Tue May 4, 2021, 11:51 AM
May 2021

... through if not damn near 1 to 1 match

marble falls

(57,201 posts)
30. "But mom said I can only have four people at a time in the basement, check out my OG X-Box." ...
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:40 PM
May 2021

I don't see these guys sitting in a bar where the real angry brain-dead are lurking. A yellow and black kilt would not be sending the message they thought it would.

Besides sleeping late and getting stuff for free none of them have a clue what Syndicalist Anarchism is about.

h2ebits

(645 posts)
12. Alternet strikes again
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:00 PM
May 2021

I read most of the Alternet articles just because they are so available but. . . .

I'm old enough to remember the time when computers were just becoming available--not the PC's but the big mainframe ones. I spent a number of years fighting the phrase: "If it's on green bar then it must be right." Programmers write code; they are not necessarily good at math.

That's how I view Alternet and a lot of Internet content. Writers write; they are not necessarily good at analysis. Proceed with caution.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
25. You need to read words 4, 5, 6, and 7 from the OP
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:09 PM
May 2021

Alternet is just the aggregator. If you have a beef with the article, look up the USA Today source and make your beef with quotes from the source article.

multigraincracker

(32,715 posts)
13. trademarks--including for 'coffins'--The Trump family's cozy ties with China
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:00 PM
May 2021
https://frontpagelive.com/2020/05/18/trump-ties-china/


Donald Trump has a relationship with China that has changed almost on a daily basis. While he criticizes the Chinese government, Trump has made money in business dealings there, as well as with Chinese investors.

What’s more, his children have also profited from their myriad businesses in China—and are poised to make more whenever they leave office. Ivanka, for instance, has been granted a great many Chinese trademarks, including for “coffins” (see below).

In a 2011 interview with Forbes, Trump described his relationship with China as, “I deal with China, as an example, a lot. It is never easy. And, I’ve made some very big deals with the Chinese. I’ve come out on top, I’ve come out in great shape. I sell apartments to Chinese people. I get along great with them. It’s not like I’m anti-China.”

Here’s a list of all the public dealings Trump and his family have had with China.
 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
15. I think the donations are legit
Tue May 4, 2021, 12:20 PM
May 2021

Totally explains why The Proud Boys, Alex Jones, etc. keep pushing their "Anti-Communist" credo.

It's all bullshit to us, but many people have been traumatized by Communism.

How do right wing groups find them? Maybe place surveys for "Attitudes toward Communism" on websites popular with Chinese Americans to build email lists - which they use to further indoctrinate them and turn them into supporters.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
34. It would be foolish to think only American credit card numbers have been stolen
Tue May 4, 2021, 01:56 PM
May 2021

Clearly that's not the case ... and this may be proof right here. A lot of the credit card theft of the last 30 years has been done by Russian and eastern European thieves who are very good, and don't often get caught. Are they only stealing American credit cards? Well ours have been easier to steal online because it took us longer to switch to the "smart" cards with microchips.

The European banks were onto them immediately and changed their entire credit card system to chipped cards which kept them out. The US banks waited another 20+ years before changing. The point is that the Russian & eastern European bad guys will steal from wherever they can. They're using false identities and stolen data to fund the fascists everywhere, including the Proud Boys and others in the US.

So, does this mean some of the thieves are actually operating in Asia now too? I'd say so.

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