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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:32 PM May 2021

Derek Chauvin's defense attorney files motions to throw out guilty verdict, seeks new trial Attorney

https://www.localmemphis.com/mobile/article/news/local/george-floyd/derek-chauvin-defense-seeks-new-trial/89-ada3b281-ab4f-40be-a000-da46bf5a90be

Attorney Eric Nelson is claiming prosecutorial and jury misconduct in the former MPD officer's trial in the death of George Floyd.

A jury found Chauvin guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter last month in Floyd's May 2020 death.

More at link. This racist murderer alleging misconduct?
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Derek Chauvin's defense attorney files motions to throw out guilty verdict, seeks new trial Attorney (Original Post) SheltieLover May 2021 OP
What "jury misconduct?" dchill May 2021 #1
One of the jurors is on film perfessor May 2021 #3
That is not true Effete Snob May 2021 #6
My understanding is that the juror also disclosed it in voir dire gratuitous May 2021 #7
Ok, if it was revealed during selection perfessor May 2021 #10
"Expert" on CNN said it is an issue, but a judge will consider evidence, the Hoyt May 2021 #11
Meh. Clutching at straws, trying to find a basis for a new trial, Ocelot II May 2021 #2
Perhaps he should have tossed in ineffective counsel (or whatever it's called in MiN) dflprincess May 2021 #9
He actually was pretty good; he just had an unwinnable case. Ocelot II May 2021 #13
Of course. Are we surprised? Srkdqltr May 2021 #4
This is normal post-verdict procedure. Ocelot II May 2021 #8
Yes, that's what I said. Srkdqltr May 2021 #12
The entire world agrees with the verdict. onecaliberal May 2021 #5

perfessor

(267 posts)
3. One of the jurors is on film
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:56 PM
May 2021

At a BLM rally at which George Floyd,s family spoke. Had he revealed this during jury selection, he would never have been seated. Infuriating that the verdict is now in jeopardy.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
6. That is not true
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:08 PM
May 2021

The juror attended a memorial gathering commemorating Martin Luther King.

I realize that when African Americans congregate in groups, there is a certain element which will call it a "BLM rally" regardless of whatever the purpose of the gathering may be, but your statement is simply not true.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. My understanding is that the juror also disclosed it in voir dire
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:14 PM
May 2021

The defense attorney obviously regrets seating the juror (or he accepted the juror, planning to do exactly what he's doing now if his client was convicted).

perfessor

(267 posts)
10. Ok, if it was revealed during selection
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:24 PM
May 2021

then I withdraw my earlier comment. And I called it a "BLM" rally to save keystrokes, which was lazy. I apologize.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. "Expert" on CNN said it is an issue, but a judge will consider evidence, the
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:32 PM
May 2021

damning video, whether another juror would have voted differently, etc.

His conclusion was that it wouldn’t make much difference even if that juror is shown to be somewhat biased. In a questionable case, that juror could be an issue, but probably not here.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
2. Meh. Clutching at straws, trying to find a basis for a new trial,
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:56 PM
May 2021

which a lawyer has to do in order to preserve certain legal issues for appeal. The problem here is that it was a well-conducted trial, and the usual standard of review on appeal for denial of a new trial motion is that the trial judge abused his discretion. Initially, though, the trial judge hears the motion and he'd have to decide that he made some kind of reversible error. There is nothing unusual about this sort of motion, though. It would be a surprise if the motion hadn't been made.

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
9. Perhaps he should have tossed in ineffective counsel (or whatever it's called in MiN)
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:21 PM
May 2021

not that counsel had much to work with.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
13. He actually was pretty good; he just had an unwinnable case.
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:44 PM
May 2021

He didn't screw up any procedures or miss objections, or do (or not do) anything a truly incompetent lawyer would have done (or not done). In order to get a conviction overturned or even get a new trial on the basis of ineffective assistance of counsel, the lawyer has to be startlingly incompetent or drunk or asleep during the trial. Nelson did about as good a job as anyone could have done, considering what he had to work with.

Ocelot II

(115,732 posts)
8. This is normal post-verdict procedure.
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:15 PM
May 2021

It would be malpractice not to do it because this is how certain issues are preserved for appeal. It will not succeed but it's routine.

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