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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:05 AM May 2021

Airlines are battling a scourge of passengers traveling with falsified Covid-19 health certificates,




Airlines are battling a scourge of passengers traveling with falsified Covid-19 health certificates, with test results easy to manipulate. Because of that, vaccine cards may be coming.

The documents are often the Covid-19 test results required by many countries on arrival. The International Air Transport Association industry body says it has tracked fake certificates in multiple countries, from France to Brazil, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Border control authorities and police forces have also reported arrests of people selling documents in the U.K., Spain, Indonesia and Zimbabwe, among others.

The problem is hitting international flights more than domestic ones, which typically don’t require certification at the moment. Airlines that are more dependent on cross-border travel, particularly those operating in Europe, are growing increasingly alarmed as they look to the summer, when they still hope demand will start to return.

The proliferation of fake health certificates is exposing a logistical blind spot, as airlines rush to navigate post-pandemic travel standards and retool their systems to ease compliance—and spur demand. Airlines say their staff aren’t equipped to handle and police all the new health certifications needed and worry the problem will be exacerbated when some countries also start to ask for vaccination certificates.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fake-covid-19-certificates-hit-airlines-which-now-have-to-police-them-11618330621?mod=e2tw
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Airlines are battling a scourge of passengers traveling with falsified Covid-19 health certificates, (Original Post) Demovictory9 May 2021 OP
And, there's the problem. bamagal62 May 2021 #1
NEEDS TO BE A FELONY Skittles May 2021 #2
It is a felony Salviati May 2021 #7
Needs to be just like the US passport card. roamer65 May 2021 #3
takes time and resources to set up that system Demovictory9 May 2021 #4
Needs to be done anyway. roamer65 May 2021 #9
Which is exactly why... SergeStorms May 2021 #5
Even vaccinated people can carry the virus right? AnyFunctioningAdult May 2021 #6
I keep trying to find out if immunized people can carry the virus. Laffy Kat May 2021 #11
Immunized people can still get the virus, so I'd assume they can spread it. Treefrog May 2021 #13
Link, please, to support this statement. Mariana May 2021 #14
Have you never heard Fauci speak on this? Treefrog May 2021 #15
You're making conflicting statements. Mariana May 2021 #19
Yes they CAN get it. Treefrog May 2021 #20
Here is the actual link, but you'll find that the CDC is easily accessible with a computer machine. Treefrog May 2021 #16
Yes. vaccination slows spread, hospitalization and death by 90% VERY good relative to ... uponit7771 May 2021 #18
So people can fake health certificates torius May 2021 #8
The other day I saw a stack of blank Covid vaccine cards just sitting on a nurse's desk.. Laffy Kat May 2021 #10
The guy in front of me for our 2nd shots... Buckeye_Democrat May 2021 #12
Yeah, when I got my first shot, I saw stacks of those just sitting on a table at CVS. Treefrog May 2021 #17

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
7. It is a felony
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:51 AM
May 2021

They need to be arrested and charged for it


Vaccination record cards are intended to provide recipients of the COVID-19 vaccine with information about the type of vaccine they received, and when they may be able to receive a second dose of the vaccine. If you did not receive the vaccine, do not buy fake vaccine cards, do not make your own vaccine cards, and do not fill-in blank vaccination record cards with false information. By misrepresenting yourself as vaccinated when entering schools, mass transit, workplaces, gyms, or places of worship, you put yourself and others around you at risk of contracting COVID-19. Additionally, the unauthorized use of an official government agency's seal (such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)) is a crime, and may be punishable under Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017, and other applicable laws.


https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1017

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. Needs to be just like the US passport card.
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:16 AM
May 2021

Swipe-able and accesses a central database, with lots of anti-counterfeiting features.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
5. Which is exactly why...
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:24 AM
May 2021

you won't find my keester on an airplane anytime in the near future. I wanted to visit the U.K. this summer, but that's going to be postponed until the Corona virus calm down worldwide .

6. Even vaccinated people can carry the virus right?
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:27 AM
May 2021

No one in going to carry their "papers" with them. Once everyone who chooses to be is vaccinated, those who choose not to are choosing to be vulnerable, yes?

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
11. I keep trying to find out if immunized people can carry the virus.
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:37 AM
May 2021

Seems the studies are still pending. I've been fully vaccinated since January and I still wear a mask all day at work and when I leave my house. Until we know for sure, I'm not making any changes.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
13. Immunized people can still get the virus, so I'd assume they can spread it.
Wed May 5, 2021, 07:27 AM
May 2021

It protects against SEVERE illness, but you can still get the virus.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
14. Link, please, to support this statement.
Wed May 5, 2021, 08:50 AM
May 2021
It protects against SEVERE illness, but you can still get the virus.
 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
15. Have you never heard Fauci speak on this?
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:00 AM
May 2021

Here, since you apparently have no access to the internet. From the CDC site:

Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at keeping you from getting COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
19. You're making conflicting statements.
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:13 AM
May 2021

The overwhelming majority of those who receive the vaccine can't get Covid-19, and therefore they certainly can't spread it.

Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at keeping you from getting COVID-19.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
18. Yes. vaccination slows spread, hospitalization and death by 90% VERY good relative to ...
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:12 AM
May 2021

... past or even current vaccine numbers but not 5 - 10% can still get it.

I'm still wearing a mask, I don't want this shit in my system

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
10. The other day I saw a stack of blank Covid vaccine cards just sitting on a nurse's desk..
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:32 AM
May 2021

In the clinic where I took my son for his booster. It would have been so easy for someone to lift those. I was shocked they weren't better secured.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
12. The guy in front of me for our 2nd shots...
Wed May 5, 2021, 02:49 AM
May 2021

... was also ahead of me for the 1st shot four weeks earlier (Moderna).

I remembered that he received a CDC card the first time because I wasn't really sure at the time if we'd get them, after reading posts here about some people never receiving them. So I was relieved when he received one, and I noticed that he was looking at his card for awhile too.

He didn't bring the card for the 2nd shot, and he immediately lied to the pharmacy that they never gave him one the first time!

So they gave him another card with both shots recorded on it, like I assumed would happen!

He could so easily fake the 1st card for someone else, like a family member, unless he actually lost it.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
17. Yeah, when I got my first shot, I saw stacks of those just sitting on a table at CVS.
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:05 AM
May 2021

When I got my second one, I didn’t see them out again, so that’s a plus.

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