Giuliani Raid, Judge Berman Ordering Release of DOJ Memo...A Picture Is Beginning to Emerge

[Beetwasher.]

Now that the Honorable Merrick Garland is AG, the truth is coming out. Be patient. Look closely, the outlines are coming into focus. Justice is coming.

In the United States of America, we do not persecute our political enemies, but we DO prosecute criminals through a system of due process. It takes time, because it must be done prudently. Indicting a former President and his powerful cronies is not something that can be done rashly. It must be done justly, with full transparency. It looks to me like that's what's happening. Piece by piece.

Patience. Justice is coming.

[secondwind]

1. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

[triron]

2. maybe

[captain queeg]

3. I hope you are correct

[malaise]

4. Justice is coming

Definitely

Rec

[joetheman]

65. If not. But for sure Karma is coming.

[Sherman A1]

5. Believe it when I see it

Not a minute before then.

[aggiesal]

12. Agreed. We went through this with Mueller. n/t

[wnylib]

43. But Mueller was up against lyin' Barr's defense

of the former guy. Both the former guy and Barr are no longer in power. That's what makes the difference now.

[aggiesal]

46. I'm hoping you're right, but I'm not holding my breath. ...

My concern that the timeline will end up where releasing the Mueller report or going after Pendejo45 himself, will be right around campaign season for 2022 and Biden thinking that doing this could cause the (D)'s losing both the House & Senate, making a political strategy decision, he nix's it.

[garybeck]

48. that's not an excuse

Barr didn't follow the rules. and the rules aren't really rules. most people in power just do whatever they feel like. Mueller could have at the very least made a stronger statement. He could have recommended indicting trump after he gets out of office. he didn't go nearly far enough with the Kilimnik thing. He didn't go deep enough on many things. i totally disagree that his failures were due to his hands being tied, or Barr did this or that. he failed at both getting the truth out and bringing people to justice.

[wnylib]

51. How can we be sure what Mueller

put in the report since we have not seen it in unredacted form?

I thonk you misinderstood my post. The point of it was that with new people in piwer, the truth will come out.

[aggiesal]

61. That was another issue with all this ...

The government in DC in the past worked under norms, that are not written down, that everyone knew and excepted.
Pendejo45's administration violated a ton of norms because they where not written down.
For example, the Mueller Report was supposed to be sent to congress, as it has always happened in the past.
Yet it was not written anywhere that this was supposed to happen, so Dis-Barr just provided a 4 page highly biased summary.

I'm expecting that from this point forward, congress will write laws, putting these excepted norms as law, so that any future rogue administration can't pull this BS that the last administration implemented.

[EndlessWire]

52. Yeah

Mueller's report was profoundly disappointing. Now very wary of everything.

[MOMFUDSKI]

70. Mueller

brought a knife to a gunfight. Blew it. Thought everybody was still playing by the 'rules'.

[bullwinkle428]

17. "Don't Fitzmas in my ear, and tell me it's raining!"

[Tribetime]

71. Agree 100% and even if it does come, right wing propaganda

Will keep feeding right wing voters its a lie

[blueinredohio]

6. I hope so but you have more faith than I do.

[maxsolomon]

33. No shit. Trump was supposed to be indicted and bankrupt by now.

Instead, he's losing weight, getting tanned and rested, & raking in millions from the rubes. He hasn't backed down one inch from his big lie, and the GOP is falling in line behind him and purging their ranks of the disloyal.

The Congressional JCOT hasn't moved an inch on his 75 million dollar tax refund. Cy Vance Jr. is retiring.

I know the wheels turn slow, but right now, it doesn't look like he'll be touched by the law at all before the 1st Tuesday in November 2024. Sure, the DOJ revelations will be damning, but his voters will never hear any of it.

[StarfishSaver]

60. Who said he'd be indicted and bankrupt within five months?

I never expected that.

Real justice - the know that sticks - takes time.

[maxsolomon]

66. Well, no one said exactly that.

There were many "the bill's coming due for Trump" articles and discussions, however.

[exboyfil]

7. I am wondering when we get to see the transcript on the Ukrainian call(s)

that are locked up in the super duper secure server. Has any reporter asked the WH about this?

[gab13by13]

14. ...or when we get to see the Mueller report?

[bamagal62]

27. Exactly.

[Frustratedlady]

15. I just mentioned that to my son-in-law, this morning. Let's see that transcript!

I'm also happy to see that the female judges/lawyers are the people stepping forward in several of these cases. That has to throw some of these guys for a loop, as they don't know how to handle women without force and these gals aren't going to stand for that.

I applaud all of them for standing strong. Trump has rarely been told "No" in his life, so it's about time he learn its true meaning and consequences. Same with Barr, McConnell, McCarthy, Cruz, Gaetz, Hawley and those other power-hungry idiots in his circle. Karma is a bitch and she's steppin' on your tails. Deal with it!

[dianaredwing]

50. BTW

Did he even have a mother or did he crawl out from under a rock fully formed and tinted orange?

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. Makes me wonder if Mitch McConnell is regretting blocking the Garland

Nomination to the US Supreme Court. I think Mitch underestimated Merrick Garland's respect for and knowledge of the Rule of Law.

Karma can be a motherfucker when she wants to be.

[lagomorph777]

10. Yeah - and wait 'til some of the details of the big Russian aluminum smelter start coming out...

Garland will be obligated to pursue any criminal leads...

[exboyfil]

30. I would love to see Kennedy's son indicted

along with McConnell and Chao.

[maxsolomon]

34. McConnell doesn't regret jack.

He 100% won the SCOTUS Wars. He cleaned our clocks.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

36. Karma will be paying him a visit when he least expects it.

[maxsolomon]

42. Really. When will that be?

When he is reincarnated as a cockroach?

[AverageOldGuy]

9. And just think . . . .

Mitch McConnell blocked Merrick Garland's nomination to SCOTUS.

And now Garland is US Attorney General:
-- SCOTUS can't issue search warrants; the US AG can;
-- SCOTUS can't release Trump-era DOJ memos; the US AG can;
-- SCOTUS can't authorize investigations into criminal activity; the US AG can;
-- and on and on and on.

Whatta you bet McConnell wishes he had let Garland on the Court?

[lagomorph777]

11. Oops!

[PJMcK]

26. President Biden made a brilliant choice for Attorney General

AG Garland is exactly the right person for the job. And the president is keeping his own hands clean by not getting involved.

However, I think McConnell is such an ass that holding the SCOTUS seat open was still more important to him than letting Mr. Garland on the Court. After all, the criminality that Mr. Garland is investigating doesn't involve McConnell, only Trump and his cronies. I really don't think there's any love lost between Trump and McConnell. In fact, I bet McConnell secretly hopes Trump gets indicted and convicted because Trump has been a destructive influence on the Republican Party.

[NNadir]

39. It's amazing we even have to contemplate if the President...

...is "keeping his hands clean." Prior to the former guy the only case where a President really didn't do so was Nixon; and Mitchell went to prison.

Where clean hands were an issue, Trump was like a grease monkey without access to either a sink or soap.

[dchill]

29. "O what a tangled web..."

[maxsolomon]

35. McConnell doesn't regret jack.

He beat our ass. 6-3 Conservative majority, with 3 of those 6 Justices under 60.

I may never see a Liberal Majority on the court, and I'm only 57.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

37. We can hope Thomas and Alito

Retire , though they will not. Both are useless.

Should anything befall them, nominate good women in their places.

[maxsolomon]

49. Thomas is only 72, Alito is 71. .

They're both on that court for both terms of a Biden Presidency.

Biden will get to replace Breyer, who is 82, if Breyer doesn't plan to hang on until he's 90.

That's it. No one else is old enough, unless Jesus calls one of them home unexpectedly.

Really, DU. Stop whistling past the graveyard on the SCOTUS. We lost. McConnell won.

[patphil]

53. I would really like to see the Democrats convince Breyer to retire before the mid term election.

If the Republicans regain control of the Senate, they will hold the spot open like they did before, and hope they get the White House back in 2024.
6-3 is bad enough. Imagine 7-2.

[maxsolomon]

54. They're not going to regain control of the Senate.

They're going to decisively lose it.

They have many more seats up for grabs & many more incumbents retiring. They will nominate absolute lunatics.

[patphil]

57. There's a good chance that will be the case.

But then we barely squeaked through a tie in the Senate, when many people thought we would do much better. I would consider it too big a risk to take. Another chair going Republican would guarantee they hold the SC for perhaps the next 30 years.

[maxsolomon]

58. It was a miracle we got a tie in the Senate. Odds were slim.

I thought we'd do better in the House, but, as I've come to accept, much of America is a Gerrymandered mess populated by cretins and flibberdigibbets.

[Elessar Zappa]

38. So far Biden and the Dems

are out strategizing McConnell right now. The Covid legislation was a HUGE victory and slap in the face to Moscow Mitch. And so will infrastructure when it passes.

[maxsolomon]

41. That doesn't mean McConnell regrets blocking Garland from the SCOTUS.

McConnell is immune to regret.

[WheelWalker]

44. Disagree. McConnell indeed regrets losing Georgia Senate run-offs.

[maxsolomon]

47. Does he regret his actions on SCOTUS nominations?

That's the topic of the comment I was responding to.

Sorry, the absurdity of the notion that McConnell is afraid of Garland as AG and wishes he'd tipped the court to a Liberal Majority instead has me very salty today.

[johnthewoodworker]

13. Republican/Nazis can coup the country, abuse children, and limit democracy with no charges.

Republican equals hatred.

[duforsure]

16. Thank You for posting this,

I feel the same way, and think our real AG for the American people will serve US well. In time the criminals will have consequences that make others think twice before they try this again. If little consequences, we'll watch the criminals line up to run for office.

[Marcuse]

18. Compare and contrast Garland's prudent process with Barr's failed Bidens investigation.

Of course it helps to be prosecuting in good faith based on actual evidence.

[Wounded Bear]

19. Democracy is coming...

[2Gingersnaps]

20. The wheels of justice do turn slowly,

As Mark Twain said, “A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.” tRump has relied on that all his miserable life. 70% of Republicans still believe "The Big Lie," and he is still promoting it. Demented Don is basically the Gish Gallop of criminal activity. He does it in plain site, and relies on bullying and corruption to slither beyond justice.

[Backseat Driver]

25. Hence the new grifting org against voting fraud aimed at donations from the base nut cases!

Plenty of them still...

[ScratchCat]

21. Let me remind everyone

That there was a CRIMINAL COMPLAINT filed against Donald Trump over the Ukraine call by someone at CIA or NSA, and DOJ/Barr claimed it wasn't filed properly or something and used that as an excuse to not start an investigation. We STILL do not know what triggered a career employee to file a criminal complaint and what the crime they were alleging was(extortion perhaps?).

THIS is probably going to come out.

[ananda]

22. The wheels of justice grind exceeding slow, but they grind exceeding fine.

...

[mn9driver]

23. Hoping this is correct, but expecting it is not.

Presidents don’t get prosecuted in this country. Even when they should be.

[Beetwasher.]

24. It's Different This Time

Biden and Garland know how serious this is and that it must be dealt with for the survival of Democracy and the Republic. We are seeing signs of this, they will not come out and say it directly for a number of reasons, but if you look, you can see the wheels moving.

History is not kind to failed coup plotters. Trump is lucky Biden and Garland and believe in the rule of law and will uphold it. Other places, other times, they wouldn't be so lucky to be treated so fairly and justly.

[bahboo]

28. Inshallah....

[FakeNoose]

31. I want to see subpoenas issued on Bill Barr

Things will go much smoother after that happens.

[MyMission]

56. Barr will invoke the 5th

If he actually testifies after being subpoenaed.

Although I've been saying for a while that he needs to be, especially regarding the insurrection, and what he knew and why he left his position.

[Stuart G]

32. K & R for all to see..no text..

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. There are perhaps millions who would NEVER accept trials and convictions,

but the more temperance and adherence to laws and customs the prosecutors show, the more of the public will come along.

Of course, there are those in that same public who are getting Oliver Wendell Holmes, and patient justice, when what they want is a Benito Mussolini style of due process.

[Amaryllis]

45. While Garland would have been a wonderful SCOTUS justice, it has occurred to me that

for this point in time, there is NO ONE better suited to take on this critically important job. It's as if karma was at work here...

[gldstwmn]

55. I will believe it when I see it.

I hope you are right.

[NNadir]

59. If he'd been arrested while still on Airforce 1 on his way to Mar Lardo, it would have embraced...

...his contempt for the rule of law.

I very much like how Attorney General is handling this explosive case. It is professional, and respectful of the law, and good marketing as well, I think, letting it drip out slowly and carefully. This was precisely what brought Nixon down, the rule of law.

Some of the "I'll believe it when I see it" stuff is nonsensical. I agree with the OP.

[Stuart G]

62. Patience. Justice is coming..Show is not over, we are at the beginning of the "last act"

....When there is an exciting movie that is great to watch, do you leave in the last 45 minutes? This
....show is not over."..Justice is coming..Yes..

From original post.."The truth is coming out" .."A Picture Is Beginning to Emerge"..

I watched the original movie "Star Wars" at least 6 times in the theaters..(got a copy in
my basement)....

Key idea:" I NEVER LEFT IN THE LAST 45 MINUTES, EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THE ENDING"

This current movie is led by "Joe Biden" who is a seasoned pilot who has been through a whole lot..
If Joe needs some advise, he can call on "Barack" who has seen the entire universe.. Many other
experienced pilots to help our hero Joe..I do believe that Joe will win the war, with lots of help from
many experienced pilots and lots of support from the entire universe..

Please, Please, Please....Stay for the entire movie...This one has a happy ending I believe.

[Beetwasher.]

63. Indeed!

From one SW fan to another!

[DinahMoeHum]

64. "Gradually, then suddenly", as Hemingway once said. . .

. . .with regard to bankruptcy.

I dare hope the same thing applies to justice.

[Skittles]

67. heh

so ironic if it would ultimately be MERRICK GARLAND who would bring them down

[Beetwasher.]

69. Yup

[SunImp]

68. I'm hoping in the coming months AG Letitia James or Jean Carrol will bring us good news

[ecstatic]

72. Okay. I'm trying my best to be patient

Lol. I don't really have a choice. It's not just tRump that has to be dealt with though. The entire GOP has been lawless for quite some time.

[FlyingPiggy]

73. I sure hope you're right. But I'll believe it when I see it.

I remember when charging Matt Geatz was “imminent” too. Totally silent now.