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itcfish

(1,828 posts)
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:23 AM May 2021

Why does the Media Keep Predicting

That the republicans will win the majority in Congress in the midterms? I know that has been true historically, but circumstances have changed and there are no comparisons today. Democrats need to control both the House and the Senate to undo the Trump damage.

https://www.rawstory.com/republican-house-majority/

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Why does the Media Keep Predicting (Original Post) itcfish May 2021 OP
Past history, gab13by13 May 2021 #1
Gerrymandering and voter suppression are kicked into overdrive now. lagomorph777 May 2021 #2
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 I've been trying to warn EVERYONE I can that GQP is not going to let go of ... uponit7771 May 2021 #3
they have almost enough states for a constitutional convention rampartc May 2021 #6
That is a pipe dream. Even if they get enough gov seats, the voting public will never go along PortTack May 2021 #28
You are correct USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #10
republicans control most states and are fine tuning their gerrymanders rampartc May 2021 #4
And what I hate is USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #8
doing the right thing gets us nowhere. rampartc May 2021 #11
Agree USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #12
CA is already pretty gerrymandered. former9thward May 2021 #24
No need for all 53; I would settle for USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #27
Tamara Keith was pushing this the other day on NPR Blues Heron May 2021 #5
Because the seats that changed hands due to the census Johonny May 2021 #7
Frustrating USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #9
I love my Southern friends, and I love certain things about Southern culture but, Progressive Jones May 2021 #13
be sure to tell the two new senators from Georgia Brainstormy May 2021 #21
I would actually say they are showing the Democrats how to do it USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #23
Agree! 7-8 months ago we'd have all laughed if someone predicted that GA would go for Biden PortTack May 2021 #29
I would go back further than that USAFRetired_Liberal May 2021 #22
Well, I'm cynical enough to believe that if all the south's black people Hortensis May 2021 #34
They're trying to Get Out The Vote FakeNoose May 2021 #14
And Why I Continue To Say modrepub May 2021 #15
There's 3 factors at play Johnny2X2X May 2021 #16
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack May 2021 #30
It's what they're paid to do. Cracklin Charlie May 2021 #17
Confused, title of article is: "How trump could ruin GOP's seemingly easy path to taking back House" Hoyt May 2021 #18
Not true in Pa. gab13by13 May 2021 #26
Honestly, I don't think Democrats are as stupid or helpless as people on both sides seem to think. Hoyt May 2021 #32
Elected Republicans are working to suppress enough votes Progressive dog May 2021 #19
Two factors. There is a history, unfortunately, of Democratic party voters bullwinkle428 May 2021 #20
They only need 6 seats. jimfields33 May 2021 #25
Looking at that from a different perspective PortTack May 2021 #33
What you say sounds awsome. You are right. Great insight. jimfields33 May 2021 #36
What circumstances have changed? Steelrolled May 2021 #31
Pushing the comfortable, status quo narrative. Some are bucking the trend: crickets May 2021 #35

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
1. Past history,
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:31 AM
May 2021

plus the fact that Republicans get to gerrymander more House seats. I worry about the House more than the Senate.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
3. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 I've been trying to warn EVERYONE I can that GQP is not going to let go of ...
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:36 AM
May 2021

... power when they get it back and at this point they need to be made the anti democracy party and demonized because of that.

We're not dealing with good actors in the republican leadership any longer, these people are getting to the horrible level of asshole

PortTack

(32,774 posts)
28. That is a pipe dream. Even if they get enough gov seats, the voting public will never go along
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
May 2021

With what they would propose

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
10. You are correct
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:03 AM
May 2021
We're not dealing with good actors in the republican leadership any longer, these people are getting to the horrible level of asshole


But unfortunately some elected Democrats treat them as our “distinguished” colleagues from the other side....seems like they never learn the lessons of the past

rampartc

(5,410 posts)
4. republicans control most states and are fine tuning their gerrymanders
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:42 AM
May 2021

based on the trump influenced census. add their new voting laws and we are looking at a repub speaker (probably gym jordan) and a new repub majority leader (cruz?) mcconnel is considered too moderate for the trumpists.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
8. And what I hate is
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:57 AM
May 2021

That our two largest States (California and NY) there are independent redistricting commissions while in their two biggest states (Texas and Florida) there aren’t......I do believe that all states should have independent commissions that draw congressional districts, but we can’t play the noble good guys when they aren’t doing it......California and NY Democrats should gerrymander the hell out of those states to the point that McCarthy, Nunez, Stefanik, etc are defeated....But no, we always play too damn nice and under different rules

former9thward

(32,020 posts)
24. CA is already pretty gerrymandered.
Wed May 5, 2021, 11:41 AM
May 2021

If you go by the 2020 election results Republicans have 35% of the vote in CA. They have 20% of the Congressional seats in CA. That is the definition of gerrymandering -- whether its done by a commission or the legislature. If you think someone could draw a map where Democrats took all 53 seats then please send that person to CA. It is mathematically and geographically impossible.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
27. No need for all 53; I would settle for
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:03 PM
May 2021

McCarthy’s and Nunes’s districts getting drawn in such a way that they would have to battle each other. Right now the 22nd (Nunes) is R+6 and the 23rd (McCarthy) is R+12.....make the 22nd even or D+, while making the 23rd R+25.

Blues Heron

(5,937 posts)
5. Tamara Keith was pushing this the other day on NPR
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:43 AM
May 2021

It seems trollish in light of recent history. "Dems are in big trouble" rinse, repeat. Why I never listen to NPR anymore.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
7. Because the seats that changed hands due to the census
Wed May 5, 2021, 09:56 AM
May 2021

GOP controls the states that gain seats and will make the new seats GOP seats. We need redistricting laws that fix this problem, but only Democratically run states have passed these laws. Expect a close house if not a house loss even though the Democrats will win more votes overall in the mid-terms. We have a broken Congressional system. The senate is a mess and the house is not far behind these days.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
9. Frustrating
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:00 AM
May 2021
but only Democratically run states have passed these laws.


We are always playing a different game and rules; I hate it.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
13. I love my Southern friends, and I love certain things about Southern culture but,
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:11 AM
May 2021

from a political standpoint, the South has been nothing but a major problem in this nation
since the crushing of the Confederacy., first with the Dixiecrat trash, them the GOP.

The Southern right is like an incurable STD, with some crabs thrown in.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
23. I would actually say they are showing the Democrats how to do it
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:46 AM
May 2021

Instead of appeasing and chasing after voters who aren’t going to vote for them, they have embraced the Democratic agenda (pre and post election)....they knew who their voters were and who gave them a chance to win....too many times over the last decade Democrats in the south have tried to run an election by being Republican-lite and it has not worked

PortTack

(32,774 posts)
29. Agree! 7-8 months ago we'd have all laughed if someone predicted that GA would go for Biden
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:29 PM
May 2021

Let alone giving us 2 dem senators

The DNC is flush with cash, record donations of 18.4 mil. They are targeting 22 vulnerable qgop congress critters for the midterms.

Let’s just keep our heads down, shoulder to the wheel and move forward!

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
22. I would go back further than that
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:41 AM
May 2021

Even during the first constitutional convention the South has had too much power and have been appeased....and your assessment about them being the Southern Right is accurate, no matter what the era or whatever they called themselves at the time (Jacksonian Democrat-Republicans, Democrats, Dixiecrats, now Republicans) they have been white right-wing racist conservatives.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Well, I'm cynical enough to believe that if all the south's black people
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:00 PM
May 2021

moved to northern states, at least the conservative half of northern whites would turn into anxious, race-focused "southerners." I have to agree that wherever hard-core conservatives, with their antipathy to differences of all kinds, concentrate they are effectively like an chronic social disease. But a lot lie dormant, untriggered by anxiety.

Far more people than say so, or even realize themselves, live in northern and some western mountain states because it's almost entirely white there, and I don't mean in winter. And more of those are going there all the time.

With the current self-segregation of people toward and away from more diverse, liberal environments, one guess which kinds are heading to strongly white regions to be with "people who share our values." A very different group from those making up the massive waves who've been sweeping into the white-and-black south and slowly moving the south the other direction.

Notably those drawn to white areas are not all actually hostile to diversity, maybe just prefer less of it... Some are more like the 1960s-80 waves Bernie Sanders was part of who went to farm in VT and ME, preferring the poor, rocky soil and very short growing seasons to the good soil and long growing seasons of
VA and MD. Or something like that.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
14. They're trying to Get Out The Vote
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:13 AM
May 2021

So come on Democrats, let's GOTV!

It's discouraging how many people lose interest in politics once the presidential race is over. The Repukes have this figured out and we don't! We can't sit back for 4 years and let them take over again, and there are too many ways for them to steal the next election. Haven't we learned that by now?


modrepub

(3,496 posts)
15. And Why I Continue To Say
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:15 AM
May 2021

Dems should be building ways to prevent their tax dollars from being highjacked by Republicans. Democratic districts account for a larger portion of the GDP (thus tax revenue) than Republican districts. That's one of the reasons Republicans take every step to maintain control of the state legislatures and Congress. Those who control the legislative branch control where the tax revenue goes.

Passing something along the lines of no state or Congressional district shall receive less than 95% of their tax contributions in federal programs should be passed. Or as an alternative, make more federal funding predicated on a larger match at the state or local level. Republican areas aversion to tax increases will leave them starving for federal monies while those communities that want more public projects will be able to snap up more federal resources if they are willing to buy in.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
16. There's 3 factors at play
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:18 AM
May 2021

1. Cons gerrymandering and the census.
2. Cons voter suppression.
3. This one is in the Dems favor, Trump isn't on the ticket, this could be a huge factor in Con voter turnout.

No one knows how it shakes out.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Confused, title of article is: "How trump could ruin GOP's seemingly easy path to taking back House"
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:35 AM
May 2021

Doesn't sound like Media is predicting GOPers will win the majority of House.

We win when we vote and that will be true in 2022.

gab13by13

(21,359 posts)
26. Not true in Pa.
Wed May 5, 2021, 11:58 AM
May 2021

except for the state wide races. More people vote Democratic in Pa. and we keep losing seats. A Democrat will never win the district that I vote in. I just voted by mail in Pa. the Republican controlled legislature has 2 ballot initiatives that takes power away from our Democratic governor. Pa. Republicans are trying to give themselves more power, hopefully the 2 initiatives fail.

Also, I have to request a mail in ballot every year, which is no problem, but this year I had to provide my driver's license number.

If the election fairness bill isn't passed I'm afraid we are in for minority rule.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
32. Honestly, I don't think Democrats are as stupid or helpless as people on both sides seem to think.
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:35 PM
May 2021

I'm in a state with a controversial new election law, but none of it is insurmountable. There are some concerning outcomes that COULD -- but won't necessarily -- happen.

The Democratic Mayor in the largest city -- a major Democratic area -- has pretty much stopped bashing the new legislation and has smartly moved to educating people what they have to do to vote.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
19. Elected Republicans are working to suppress enough votes
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:36 AM
May 2021

to win elections with a smaller minority. They do not support democracy and are trying to perpetuate their power.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
20. Two factors. There is a history, unfortunately, of Democratic party voters
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:36 AM
May 2021

not being as reliable as the Repuke base, when it comes to mid-terms. And the voter suppression efforts have to be considered as well.

I don't ever want to see a post/meme here along the lines of, "CHILL THE FUCK OUT, EVERYONE - JOE'S GOT THIS ALL UNDER CONTROL!"

PortTack

(32,774 posts)
33. Looking at that from a different perspective
Wed May 5, 2021, 12:36 PM
May 2021

we had a massive blue wave in the ‘18 midterms a lot of those were first time Dems that won in very red districts, so it should have been expected that a lot of those seats would fall back to the qgop as they did in ‘20.

The qgop has picked off the easy ones, now they really have very little room to break out as we do not have a lot of vulnerable house members left.

Also the DNC flush with cash- 18.4 mil last quarter has targeted 22 vulnerable qgop congress critters for the midterms. It may not be as easy as it seems for them.

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