**Liz Cheney is not going quietly.** Her just-posted op ed in WAPO:

[hlthe2b]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/05/liz-cheney-republican-party-turning-point/

She makes sure to reference McCarthy's prior statements with a twist of the shiv...

Opinion by Liz Cheney
May 5, 2021 at 3:05 p.m. MDT

Liz Cheney, a Republican, represents Wyoming’s at-large congressional district in the U.S. House.

In public statements again this week, former president Donald Trump has repeated his claims that the 2020 election was a fraud and was stolen. His message: I am still the rightful president, and President Biden is illegitimate. Trump repeats these words now with full knowledge that exactly this type of language provoked violence on Jan. 6. And, as the Justice Department and multiple federal judges have suggested, there is good reason to believe that Trump’s language can provoke violence again. Trump is seeking to unravel critical elements of our constitutional structure that make democracy work — confidence in the result of elections and the rule of law. No other American president has ever done this.

The Republican Party is at a turning point, and Republicans must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution. In the immediate wake of the violence of Jan. 6, almost all of us knew the gravity and the cause of what had just happened — we had witnessed it firsthand.

House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) left no doubt in his public remarks. On the floor of the House on Jan. 13, McCarthy said: “The president bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding.” Now, McCarthy has changed his story.

I am a conservative Republican, and the most conservative of conservative values is reverence for the rule of law. Each of us swears an oath before God to uphold our Constitution. The electoral college has spoken. More than 60 state and federal courts, including multiple Trump-appointed judges, have rejected the former president’s arguments, and refused to overturn election results. That is the rule of law; that is our constitutional system for resolving claims of election fraud.

The question before us now is whether we will join Trump’s crusade to delegitimize and undo the legal outcome of the 2020 election, with all the consequences that might have. I have worked overseas in nations where changes in leadership come only with violence, where democracy takes hold only until the next violent upheaval. America is exceptional because our constitutional system guards against that. At the heart of our republic is a commitment to the peaceful transfer of power among political rivals in accordance with law. President Ronald Reagan described this as our American “miracle.”

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[CatWoman]

1. go, Liz, GO!!!

[multigraincracker]

2. The choice is a Democratic Republic, or

a Banana Republic.

[Evolve Dammit]

37. well stated.

[lastlib]

65. except it won't be any kind of republic.

more likely a banana authoritarian dictatorship.

[gratuitous]

3. Well now how is this promoting unity?

And why is she not obeying the powers that God has ordained to be above her? It's like she's one of those women's libbers. Is this really what the Republican party has come to - disobedience to one's betters? Shame!

[MyOwnPeace]

49. I'm guessing.....

you 'forgot' this thingie:

[Skittles]

4. LOL

"..........the most conservative of conservative values is reverence for the rule of law" - how can any fucking CHENEY possibly think THAT is true?????

[speak easy]

12. Exactly.

[exboyfil]

26. When your party goes beyond even your father

Of course your father is one of those who set the groundwork for this. There won't be another Florida. It will be civil war first.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. Correct. And the private "company" currently conducting the "audit" in AZ may be the spark. nt

[Skittles]

43. the other day I saw Duyba described ON DU as "warm and witty"

I mean, OMFG

[oldsoftie]

81. Well, compared to Trump, a pile of shit is at least "warm"

[Skittles]

83. sorry no

Trump in no way mitigates that warmongering piece of shit

[maddiemom]

84. My immediate thought...

Funny how Dubya actually gives off a warm vibe these days to those of us who used to truly distain him. He was thoughtless and far from a Rhodes Scholar, but we didn't yet know how a vicious and thoroughly immoral man could be elected to that office. I even think better of Nixon after the experience of Trump. There's also the fact that Trump is NUTS! Surely there are Republicans besides Liz and Mitt who are bothered by this obvious fact.

[oldsoftie]

86. Privately they're bothered. Publiclly, they're not!

Still scared of the MAGAs

[The Unmitigated Gall]

39. Right?

‘Pukes have been trampling the law into the mud since Nixon ‘68 committed treason sabotaging Johnson’s peace talks.

[Skittles]

42. you know it

welcome to DU; LOVE your DU handle which pretty much describes all repuke actions these days

[MyOwnPeace]

50. Great catch, Skittles!

That 'handle' (The Unmitigated Gall) is indeed most appropriate now - perhaps more so than the past several years, even though I've been known to utter it more than once amidst a great blue cloud upon reading about another 'ROYAL FUBAR' from the BunkerBoy Mis-administration.

And yes, WELCOME, "The Unmitigated Gall!"

[Skittles]

53. I remember thinking The Unmitgated Gall occasionally

but now it's like, every freaking day with the Greedy Old Pig party.....I am so, SO sick of them - it's like they just want to take us all backwards

[The Unmitigated Gall]

77. Awww, thank you so much!

I laughed pretty hard myself when it popped into my head. Longtime DU follower!

[KS Toronado]

74. Welcome to DU ! Love your handle also.

[uponit7771]

70. +1,

[Treefrog]

75. No shit.

[Beachnutt]

5. Now go vote with the dems and really screw their heads up

[FakeNoose]

6. Does Liz Cheney have a law degree?

I don't know one way or the other, but it sounds like she's getting sound legal advice from somewhere. Until she threw in the thing about Reagan, I was planning to clap for this.

[Ford_Prefect]

28. Juris Doctor - University of Chicago Law School (1996)

After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law at the law firm of White & Case and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney

[IcyPeas]

7. Amanda Carpenter tweet/thread just posted

Pay attention to what Cheney is asking for.

"A parallel bipartisan review by a commission with subpoena power to seek and find facts...No currently serving member of Congress — with an eye to the upcoming election cycle — should participate."

Link to tweet

?s=19

[TheRickles]

15. But all members of Congress are up for re-election in every election cycle.

So only the ones who are resigning can be on the commission? Not sure if this makes sense.

[hlthe2b]

35. No CURRENTLY SERVING... so only those who have left Congress would be eligible..

[TheRickles]

36. Got it. Thanks!

[lindysalsagal]

8. OK! A GOP woman with brains and balls!

Now, if only some of the men had them!

[mnmoderatedem]

34. Romney and Kinzinger have taken similar positions

unfortunately GOPers with integrity are WAY too few and far between. Especially in this day and age.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. Blah blah Liz

These comments show her TRUE colors.

I hope they throw her away.

Not my animals, not my farm.

There is much at stake now, including the ridiculous wokeness of our political rivals, the irrational policies at the border and runaway spending that threatens a return to the catastrophic inflation of the 1970s. Reagan formed a broad coalition from across the political spectrum to return America to sanity, and we need to do the same now. We know how. But this will not happen if Republicans choose to abandon the rule of law and join Trump’s crusade to undermine the foundation of our democracy and reverse the legal outcome of the last election.

[JudyM]

44. "Runaway spending," complains the Halliburton heiress.

[JustAnotherGen]

78. n/s

[Captain Zero]

57. If I was her and they kicked me out of the Whip

I'd declare as an Independent and announce I was caucusing with the Democrats until such time as the Republican Party becomes independent of Stump.

[JustAnotherGen]

79. Me too

But remaining a Republican would irritate them more.

[Eyeball_Kid]

80. Reagan did nothing of the sort.

Liz might be correct in her assessment of the attempted insurrection and of the Big Lie, but she's in La La Land when she says that Reagan returned the nation to sanity. The nation wasn't "insane" when Carter was president. We know what a nation "insane" looks like, and it's still expressing insanity from the Trump years. Liz's invoking of Reagan as some kind of god-hero is myth-making gibberish.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. I applaud her courageous stance. Liz Cheney has gone where the rest of her party won't.

I don't know what she's going to do next, but I will be watching intently.

Right now, I'd rather have her in our Democratic Party than that Senator Manchin.

[FoxNewsSucks]

56. Manchin is pissing me off, but

Cheney did NOT suddenly find morality. The crazy crazyfucks have been taking over her party and she finally realized it would interfere with her own plans for control .

That's all there is to it, really.

[MOMFUDSKI]

61. Exactly

and I hope they toss her ass. Every bit of infighting amongst these cretins insures their demise. Just sit back and watch the show for now.

[uponit7771]

71. +1,

[Under The Radar]

11. Yea, my money is on Liz for the win. Leadership requires leaders....

I don’t agree with her on much, I actually felt that her father had Satan DNA, and that his heart failed because of the ice cold salt water in his veins, but she stands strong on her principles and doesn’t waver from them for the sake of popularity. ... except that time she denounced homosexuality in the military when her sister is openly gay....but since she hates Trump, I will applaud her.

[3catwoman3]

20. My first thought upon hearing that Dickhead Cheney...

...had been a heart transplant recipient was, “I really hope it was not a heart from a Democrat.” And I don’t even feel guilty about feeling that way.

[Under The Radar]

23. The donor was not a democrat, it was a Burmese python.

[intheflow]

46. Huh. I heard it wasn't a heart but

his signed contract with the devil making him immortal.

[Under The Radar]

58. That's sounds like a sound theory to me.

[quakerboy]

88. Theres no hate. Its all a strategic move

The trump era push towards fascism is still strong, but its faltering a bit.

The Cheney who thought trumps brand of fascism would win the day voted against his impeachment in 2019
The Cheney who saw him lose an election despite all the cheating in his favor voted for his second impeachment.
The Cheney who sees this brand of fascism likely to fail in the long run is trying to create a bunker of "not a real conservative" for her fellows to retreat too if things continue to go wrong for them.

She is no friend of liberty or democracy.

[JHB]

13. The bigger question before you and your type of Repuiblicans, Liz, is...

What are you going to do when most of your party does not stand up for the law, does not do as you suggest, is fine embracing Trump's statement and acting as if they were fact?

You're at the nightmare scenario for those of your ideological persuasion: The only way to save your party is make the extremist whither from lack of success. You have to torpedo it. And the way to do that is to break any chance they have of majority, break with them, and, while not joining us, going along with us. There's going to be a whole lot that you don't like, but we're not a nightmare. They are. And what we do is stuff you can live with.


But if you try to play all sides and do nothing, all the destruction to your party and the rule of law you're worried about will come true.

[tanyev]

14. Bam! This is getting interesting.

[monkeyman1]

59. By the minute!! wonder who's ball's are are going to be crunched first !!!

[mcar]

16. Republicans in Disarray!

[Johnny2X2X]

17. Behind a paywall

Shouldn't be. Trump and 98% of the GOP are intent on destroying our Democracy, people need to hear this.

[hlthe2b]

21. Sorry but I excerpted more than I was technically allowed to do.

[Hekate]

33. Thanks

[Mr. Ected]

18. Like the Lincoln Project, any enemy of fascism is a friend of mine

Doesn't mean we see eye to eye about a single different issue.

But ridding our government of those who would supplant our democracy is a noble cause regardless of your politics.

You don't have to love Liz, like Liz, trust Liz or agree with Liz. You only have to align with her on this one issue, which happens to be the most critical battle we are currently facing.

[pazzyanne]

54. + 1 nt

[ShazzieB]

62. All of this!

[DanieRains]

19. Hear Hear

Not going quietly indeed....

[DownriverDem]

22. Too late

It will be interesting to watch though.

[sagetea]

24. *Pardon my language...

Now, Liz, NOW???

Actions NOT WORDS speak. We GAVE YOU TWO IMPEACHMENT TRIALS! 2 of them!

Put some got damned muscle behind your condemnations.

But..respect for doing something to save your party, I guess. It does take ovaries to stand up now a days.

*sorry for cursing

sage

[Stinky The Clown]

27. Uh . . . . . she DID vote to impeach. It was in all the papers.

Really.

Not joking.

[sagetea]

51. Both times?

I know she did the 2nd time. (I may have forgotten for a moment in my rant, however) But, I thought she didn't the first time...

sage

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. I'm not sure I'd call it a "miracle." All First World countries and some not-so-First...

seem to manage peaceful transitions of power. What IS remarkable is that so many Americans want to end that tradition.

[CatWoman]

29. ....

[Hekate]

30. KnR

[SheltieLover]

31. I still can't believe McCarthy is attacking Darth Vader's Spawn

If I were him, I'd be

[IcyPeas]

32. Cheney thought trumps picks of Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett were just perfect!!

She voted in lock step with trumpers 93% of the time.

Gimme a break.

A stopped clock... blah blah blah....

Link to tweet

?s=19

[murielm99]

41. Thank you for pointing out her voting record.

Kinzinger, my rep, is no paragon, either. He is an opportunist.

[Jon King]

40. She is still a raving scumbag.

Sorry, taking one correct position does not undo the 60 years of political horror that is Cheney and her father.

[crickets]

45. I'm no fan of any Cheney.

However, if Liz Cheney had to stick her neck out in spite of her party to stand up for one issue, this would be the most important one, and that gets grudging respect from me. Good for her and, ultimately, perhaps good for the country.

[pazzyanne]

55. Exactly!

I truly cannot believe that I aline with any Cheney on anything, but I can support her stance in this case. Our democratic republic is on the line!

[Mr. Evil]

47. "The most conservative of conservative values is reverence for the rule of law."

And that makes it easier for republicans to skirt it, break it and cover it up.

I'm not buying her act for one second.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

73. Repukes demonstrate a desire to destroy the rule of law

Every fucking day!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

48. If all else fails, there's always dad's shotgun.

After all, she IS Little Miss Darth Cheney.

KY.........

[libtheoman]

52. Who cares what Liz Cheney thinks?

Who cares what Liz Cheney thinks?
I appreciate the post and it’s important to stay informed. I just feel like all I see on DU anymore are stories about Republicans. Trump began with Bush and Cheney. Why did she speak out in 2000

[cadoman]

67. way too many are looking back on the Bush years with rose-colored beer goggles...

The Cheneys should be in prison and Liz is only saying this to preserve the family "business".

[jcgoldie]

60. I think they should not have poked Liz Cheney...

... but that 2nd to last paragraph reminded me quite vividly why Liz Cheney is not our friend.

[napi21]

63. It's a real rarity that I cheer a Pubby, but I'm cheering for Liz. i was very aprehensive when she

was elected. i very much disliked her Dad, and I was thinking she's be just like him. I don't pay enough attention to the Pubs to know all she's done sine getting this job, but I sure support HER as she's telling it like it is to the rest of the lying SOSs. I'm still hoping there will be just enough sane Pubs left to let Liz keep her job and REAKKY SHAME the damn liars.

[DallasNE]

64. Earlier McCarthy Leaked His Pre-broadcast Comments On Fox News

Where he said he no longer has confidence in Liz Cheney in the number 3 spot for House Republicans. It was gutless and has been forcefully rebuked by Liz Cheney. And to close quoting the patron saint Reagan provides the punctuation mark. But it is too late; Cheney is toast as #3 Republican. Trump blackmail works.

[Peppertoo]

66. 2021 me to 2014 me - Things get strange, you will find yourself agreeing with Liz Cheney

What strange times.

[calimary]

69. I know what you mean!

I can't believe I find ANYTHING on whick to agree - with LIZ CHENEY, of all people.

This is about as far as I go. She's so radically anti-choice, that alone is a deal-breaker all by itself.

All I need to know, from any politician, is where they stand on a woman's right to choose, govern, and have the last word over, her own body. If they're wrong on that, we go no further. I will have heard all I need to hear. And there's no reason to go any further.

For me, it starts and ends with a woman's right to unassailable jurisdiction over her own body. That issue, for me, overrides EVERYTHING else.

[FlyingPiggy]

68. And we get to the core of the problem: tea party crazies v GOP

Will be interesting to see who is left standing. I am a bit terrified at the possibility of a total tea party takeover.

[Dawgman49]

72. Thanks Liz....but

Reagan’s “miracle” also include the “ worst words...I’m from the government and I’m here to help”....I respect her fight for the truth, but all of this conspiracy is decades of gop autocratic power come home to roost...with your dad in the lead , own it Liz...& have fun at the next cpac

[AllaN01Bear]

76. come to the light side liz. yes

[Kablooie]

82. She's setting herself up for a presidential run in 2024.

She's trying to take the high road so she can run as the one sane candidate.

[Escurumbele]

85. "and the most conservative of conservative values is reverence for the rule of law." Nope

the republican party has NEVER respected the rule of law..."the most conservative of conservative values"...please, your base may believe that crap, but history tells a very different story, and we can begin with Liz's dad, a horrendous excuse of a human being.

[quakerboy]

87. Pure CYA

She is still on board with everything her party is about. Her values are consistant with Trumps

Her job is to create the fallback position for the GOP to retreat to if this particular push towards fascism fails.