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MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
Thu May 6, 2021, 09:51 AM May 2021

With Regard to the California Governor's Race

Yes, there are several GQP candidates in that race, but there's just one thing we all need to remember. Unless the state votes to recall the current Governor, it won't matter at all.

A lot of what is being discussed ignores that fundamental question. Will California vote to recall the Governor in the first place?

I think not.

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With Regard to the California Governor's Race (Original Post) MineralMan May 2021 OP
No . . . Lovie777 May 2021 #1
Sorry. But as an East Coast girl, I think California's recall law is really stupid Walleye May 2021 #2
Well, California has always had a recall process. MineralMan May 2021 #3
As a Californian I like that we have the option Raine May 2021 #11
I see. That could be a benefit. Walleye May 2021 #12
When we tried to recall Walker in Wisconsin Chautauquas May 2021 #4
I'm going out on a limb here and predict multigraincracker May 2021 #5
She's certainly no Ahhnuld. MineralMan May 2021 #6
In my opinion Zeitghost May 2021 #7
That's the question, isn't it? MineralMan May 2021 #8
respectfully disagree... bahboo May 2021 #9
Thank you for your optimism. Caliman73 May 2021 #10
I was worried, but not anymore msfiddlestix May 2021 #13

Walleye

(31,056 posts)
2. Sorry. But as an East Coast girl, I think California's recall law is really stupid
Thu May 6, 2021, 09:59 AM
May 2021

What’s so important that it can’t wait till the next election? If he’s criminal he can be arrested. Malfeasance, in office he should be impeached not recalled.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
3. Well, California has always had a recall process.
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:08 AM
May 2021

Not all states do, but it's in the California Constitution.

It's not easy for a recall to succeed, particularly in the case of a Governor. It's not horribly difficult to get enough signatures for a recall election, although it's not particularly easy, either.

However, an election must be held. Unless a majority of voters votes to recall an elected official, the list of replacement candidates is moot. That's what happens in most cases, historically. There has only been one other recall of a Governor, in 2003. In that one, the sitting Governor, Gray Davis, was removed and replaced by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

California is one of just 19 states that allows its governor to face a recall election.

The result will depend on voter turnout, frankly.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
11. As a Californian I like that we have the option
Thu May 6, 2021, 06:54 PM
May 2021

this time it's not necessary but it can put the ”fear of God" (aka wrath of the voter) into an office holder that needs it.

Chautauquas

(4,452 posts)
4. When we tried to recall Walker in Wisconsin
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:08 AM
May 2021

an often expressed opinion at the time was that people weren't so much voting to keep him in office but were instead voting against the idea of recall elections to begin with. Maybe that will be a factor in California.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
6. She's certainly no Ahhnuld.
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:21 AM
May 2021

In many ways, this recall election is clownish. That does not bode well for it to end up removing the current Governor.

Voter turnout will make all the difference. If California Democrats turn out in good numbers, the recall will fail. However, I no longer live in that state, so I don't know what the turnout will be like. Traditionally, turnout is low in such special elections, generally.

Zeitghost

(3,869 posts)
7. In my opinion
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:52 AM
May 2021

The recall will succeed. Those in favor of the recall are motivated to get out. I don't think Newsome supporters will be as motivated in a special election.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
8. That's the question, isn't it?
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:57 AM
May 2021

I don't know, either. I do know that I'd be going to vote if I still lived there, though, and it would be against the recall.

That election will tell us some things, I believe.

bahboo

(16,356 posts)
9. respectfully disagree...
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:50 AM
May 2021

repubs don't have a strong candidate. Newsom is much stronger than Gray Davis was. We're doing great against Covid. California democrats are pissed beyond belief. What it is, is a huge waste of goddamn money.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
10. Thank you for your optimism.
Thu May 6, 2021, 12:05 PM
May 2021

Having lived in California all my life, I can only say that California voters nationally, are pretty good. Locally, we can be some of the dumbest voters out there. We have killed so many initiatives that would have made major differences in how we live, and we have elected ridiculous characters like Devin Nunes and Darryl Issa. Not to mention, it was California who gave the world Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon.

While there is not much comparison between the recall of Gray Davis and Gavin Newsom, Davis was one of the most well rounded governors. He knew how everything worked. Newsom of course is much more personable and people know who he is, so there is less of a chance that the Schwarzenegger effect will happen, especially since Jenner is not well regarded here.

The point is, don't bet on Californians not being dumb about local politics. It is not a sure bet.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
13. I was worried, but not anymore
Thu May 6, 2021, 07:47 PM
May 2021

I knew that Newt Gingrich partnered with some other rich effers, bank rolling recall petitions. Every single day there'd be a new one.

I started getting very worried especially during the peak of our covid shut down and all the crazy shit people in SoCal was doing, and Newsom didn't help himself with a number of "unforced errors" ... started scaring me for a little while. But I've calmed down since I learned his poll numbers are really high.

Did I mention all of the crazy Party organizations have registered this year? I've lost count, but there's a slew of them with the weirdest names you can imagine. And oh, how about Trump Humper Caitlyn Jenner? She looved that he was a "disrupter". And that's what she wants to be when she grows up and becomes California Governor.


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