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misanthrope

(7,419 posts)
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:18 PM May 2021

This is infuriating

So red states are now jumping on the new trend to end federal unemployment assistance because they claim it is creating too many worker shortages. Montana and South Carolina have announced in the last couple of days that they will cease the payments -- that don't come out of their own budgets -- at the end of June.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/05/06/these-states-are-dropping-federal-300-a-week-unemployment-benefits/?sh=19d375493dc1

Thus far, the stories about worker shortages mainly stem from high-stress, low-pay jobs in the food and beverage industry. Their workers are typically paid poorly, highly exposed to possible COVID-infected customers and carry no healthcare benefits.

The way to translate the situation is thus: workers that were previously so desperate they took exploitative employment are no longer as resigned to hopelessness. What these pols want to do is bring back the desperation.

It's like these politicos are doing this just to be mean. Economists warn that the unemployment and economic situation has not returned to pre-pandemic levels. Others who are truly in need of those funds are going to be caught in this squeeze.

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This is infuriating (Original Post) misanthrope May 2021 OP
I hate them so. bamagal62 May 2021 #1
Keep voting Republican, Red States! OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #2
Problem is, those who are blue but living in red states are raccoon May 2021 #26
at some point, life may well become so hellish in deep Red states it is time for Dems to leave them Celerity May 2021 #27
That's their thing Repugs are Selfish, Greedy and Mean. That's all they're about. rickyhall May 2021 #3
Shortly before he suddenly died 2 years ago BigmanPigman May 2021 #10
Well then, time to treat the employers of these high-stress, low-pay jobs as an enemy ck4829 May 2021 #4
I suspect that the entire labor market (especially the low end) has been totally shook up. People SWBTATTReg May 2021 #5
Precisely misanthrope May 2021 #8
high-stress, low-pay jobs in the food and beverage industry. Claire Oh Nette May 2021 #6
Why would anyone want to return to a job that doesn't pay enough to rent an apartment? jmbar2 May 2021 #7
Another thought misanthrope May 2021 #9
Bingo mjvpi May 2021 #20
yep... just to be assholes Demovictory9 May 2021 #24
Unfortunately, your post is spot on Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #11
Unemployable magats are going to have severe cognitive dissonance. C_U_L8R May 2021 #12
How is this program set up that states can cancel federal payments to its citizens? BobTheSubgenius May 2021 #13
I couldn't agree more. littlemissmartypants May 2021 #14
It's not "like they are".... Snackshack May 2021 #15
Wow. ShazzieB May 2021 #22
Hmmm gratuitous May 2021 #16
Would have been nice if that had happened last year... 2naSalit May 2021 #18
Rs have been opposed to ANY kind of benefits stopdiggin May 2021 #17
The only reason Montana cares right now misanthrope May 2021 #19
The cruelty is the point dlk May 2021 #21
👆 This. crickets May 2021 #23
Sadly, the current Republican Party has a deep and wide sadistic streak dlk May 2021 #30
they are doing it to be mean XanaDUer2 May 2021 #25
I don't think they are doing this to be mean radicalleft May 2021 #28
I think they are selfish and really don't care how their actions harm others dlk May 2021 #31
How about giving the $300 to those that find a job tinymontgomery May 2021 #29

Celerity

(43,457 posts)
27. at some point, life may well become so hellish in deep Red states it is time for Dems to leave them
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:20 AM
May 2021

1850 to 1930 redux, without having to cross the Atlantic.

Gerrymandering at federal, state, and local levels, voter suppression, the RW stacking of local, state and federal courts (including SCOTUS), and the potential loss of more governorships, state assemblies, local county and municipal governments, the US Congress and, nightmarishly, POTUS in 2022 and/or 2024 will all work in concert to potentially bring about the truly sustained, systemic rise of RW christo-fascism in so many deep Red states at levels unseen in ages, if ever in post Civil War America. Life could become a living nightmare for liberals and PoC (and to be honest also for the bottom of the food chain-dwelling rubes on the right who vote for all this, but they are too gaslit and racist to care in significant enough numbers to stave it off).

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
10. Shortly before he suddenly died 2 years ago
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:55 PM
May 2021

my dad succinctly defined the GOP (this was before Q made it the GQP). He said, "Republicans are greedy hypocrites". I thought that described them perfectly and in a nut shell.

SWBTATTReg

(22,154 posts)
5. I suspect that the entire labor market (especially the low end) has been totally shook up. People
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:32 PM
May 2021

are less inclined IMHO to take high exposure jobs.

misanthrope

(7,419 posts)
8. Precisely
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:47 PM
May 2021

And that's what these politicians are trying to do, throw the most vulnerable into a more easily exploitable position.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
6. high-stress, low-pay jobs in the food and beverage industry.
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:33 PM
May 2021

Pay better, cheap bastards.

They're essential, front line. They deserve $15-18 an hour. More. Like in Germany or Denmark.

Fast food workers need a union.

jmbar2

(4,902 posts)
7. Why would anyone want to return to a job that doesn't pay enough to rent an apartment?
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:41 PM
May 2021

I hope they continue to hold back until the jobs offer a livable wage, and they are treated with respect.

misanthrope

(7,419 posts)
9. Another thought
Thu May 6, 2021, 10:53 PM
May 2021

Not only did the extra benefits not cost the states anything, but it was actually a return of federally tax funds into the states. Also, those funds were spent and the states took another little bite in the sales taxes paid.

But now they want to kiss that goodbye. Just to be assholes.

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
20. Bingo
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:38 AM
May 2021

Government monies that start out in the hands of people who need the money goes directly into economy. These guys can’t even see that for the class of people who own rentals, these benefits have been a subsidy. People didn’t get behind on rent. Eventually the money will trickle up. In Montana there is a worker shortage for the shit jobs. I’m sure the people who have the governor’s ear are all business owners. During his time as a US Representative, Gianforte was the richest man in either house. I’m sure that he has his eyes on 2024.

C_U_L8R

(45,007 posts)
12. Unemployable magats are going to have severe cognitive dissonance.
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:19 PM
May 2021

But go ahead, keep voting against your family's own self-interest. Idiots.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
13. How is this program set up that states can cancel federal payments to its citizens?
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:47 PM
May 2021

Whatever the case, it is just "so red state" isn't it?

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
15. It's not "like they are"....
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:54 PM
May 2021

They are doing this to be mean. In reading the different legislations that have been put forth by the GOP in red states they are going out of their way to make things more difficult for people in way that can be easily interpreted as payback to voters who did not vote for their guy. It’s disgusting the GOP really is the biggest threat we face.

ShazzieB

(16,437 posts)
22. Wow.
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:12 AM
May 2021

"...they are going out of their way to make things more difficult for people in way that can be easily interpreted as payback to voters who did not vote for their guy."

Holy guacamole, that explains a LOT (about a number of things Republicans do, not just this particular unemployment issue). This blows my mind.

Wow, just wow.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. Hmmm
Thu May 6, 2021, 11:58 PM
May 2021

I wonder if anyone being forced to risk their lives by going back to work at lousy wages during a pandemic might make some residents of South Carolina and Montana more open to hearing another political message from the Republican platform? Maybe the Democrats should consider doing a little campaigning there? I mean, as long as the Republicans are just handing these cudgel-like issues to us?

stopdiggin

(11,324 posts)
17. Rs have been opposed to ANY kind of benefits
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:08 AM
May 2021

without serious strings attached -- forever. This is pretty much same old. And married to the same age old philosophy -- "Encourages them to be lazy!"

misanthrope

(7,419 posts)
19. The only reason Montana cares right now
Fri May 7, 2021, 12:30 AM
May 2021

Summer is tourist season. They need serfs to carry luggage, flip omelets and ingratiate themselves to their "betters."

dlk

(11,572 posts)
30. Sadly, the current Republican Party has a deep and wide sadistic streak
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:34 AM
May 2021

And too many sociopaths with no conscience, so the ends justify the means.

radicalleft

(480 posts)
28. I don't think they are doing this to be mean
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:31 AM
May 2021

It's simply a matter of economics. They KNOW that the jobs deserve MUCH better pay than they are currently giving, BUT, they don't want tp pay it.

So if the state stops making up the shortfall, the business owners get their slaves back w/o having to truly play by the supply/demand rules.

dlk

(11,572 posts)
31. I think they are selfish and really don't care how their actions harm others
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:39 AM
May 2021

Economic policies are a political choices and Republicans have chosen to promote policies to create a permanent servant class for their own personal, financial benefit. They've lost any belief that Americans working full time shouldn't be poor.

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
29. How about giving the $300 to those that find a job
Fri May 7, 2021, 08:35 AM
May 2021

How about giving the fed’s $300 to those that find a job as a bonus to help them out
instead.

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