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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOn MSNBC, there have been several hints that the NEVER TRUMP REPUBS are organizing.
The latest is that in a month there will be a traditional conservative organization/party to counter Dump.
Figure 30% of repubs want no part of TFG. It will confirm a civil war in the GQP.
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"Trumps GOP Enemies Try 3 Strategies for Survival"
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-republican-enemies-survival-strategies.html
This is a tough time to be a Republican politician who is known to be on Donald Trumps long list of people he regards as disloyal to his continued domination of the GOP. Those on the outs with the 45th president have adopted different strategies for survival. This past weekend, former House Speaker Paul Ryan who may or may not try to return to the spotlight, perhaps even as a presidential candidate told the Associated Press that the debate over fealty to Trump is going to fade, adding, I think circumstances, ideas, and new candidates are going to
overshadow that whole conversation. Ryan, never a MAGA favorite, is echoing the dismissive attitude of GOP types that Trump has repeatedly refuted since he first decided to run for president in 2015.
Responding to shouts of traitor and communist being audibly hurled at him on his home turf, Romney asked, Arent you embarrassed? He did narrowly survive a censure resolution offered a bit later, which attacked him for supporting two illegitimate impeachment trials that hurt the Constitution and hurt the party.
This wasnt Romneys first collision with a Republican state convention, an event that is always dominated by hard-core conservative ideologues (this years delegates cheered Romneys Senate colleague Mike Lee just as lustily as they booed Romney). When he ran for the Senate in 2018, Romney failed to win the state conventions endorsement for the GOP nomination. Trump wasnt much of a factor in that insult to the former Massachusetts governor; the two men were in a temporary period of détente at the time. Romneys perceived ideological heresies were aggravated by anger at him for supporting an alternative path to nominations not controlled by conventions. But he wasnt booed then or nearly censured. And Romney went on to win 73 percent of the vote in the subsequent primary, earning congratulations from Trump.
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Another target of Trumpian loathing, Georgia governor Brian Kemp, doesnt have the bright stain of votes for removing Trump from office but has committed the equally grave sin of obstructing the former presidents attempted election coup and, worse yet, not believing he was robbed. Unlike Romneys defiant pose and appeal to Republican and conservative orthodoxy, Kemp has pursued a strategy of Trumpism without Trump, embracing MAGA priorities in order to cut down the temperature of his dispute with his partys dark lord. He has shrewdly made himself the chief apologist for Georgias new vote-suppressing election law, whose entire rationale is based on Trumps lies about 2020. And more recently, he made an entirely gratuitous daylong trip to visit Georgia National Guardsmen serving on the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas, identifying himself with an even more obvious Trump cause.
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I hope they do.
FSogol
(45,503 posts)Indykatie
(3,697 posts)Trump controls the GOP party apparatus and as such the financial machine for now. If big donors and corporations stopped donating to the Trump controlled GOP that would make a big difference.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)They would never win another election.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)already working on 2022, but Bloviation Central seems to be going the way of the Tea Party.
Not disappearing, but not really a force as time goes on. It's really tough to keep up that intensity for long without a real point or program.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)and they'd better get used to America getting less white and do something to appeal to someone other than straight, white, Christian males.
bullimiami
(13,099 posts)pandr32
(11,594 posts)The former guy isn't the only one with a strangle hold on the Insurrectionist Party.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Blue Owl
(50,448 posts)Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)FakeNoose
(32,671 posts)... and their "glorious years" of libertarianism. Just trash the memory of Chump and it's all good.
ancianita
(36,112 posts)Mitt Romney, UT
Ben Sasse, NE
Richard Burr, NC
Bill Cassidy, LA
Susan Collins, ME
Lisa Murkowski, AK
Pat Toomey, PA
House Representatives
Tom Rice, SC
Adam Kinzinger, IL
Dan Newhouse, WA
Anthony Gonzalez, OH
Fred Upton, MI
Jaime Herrera-Beutler, WA
Peter Meijer, MI
John Katko, NY
David Valadao, CA
Liz Cheney WY
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)I hope it happens.
Xolodno
(6,398 posts)And they know they need them.
Biden's comment about trickle down economics as having failed, used to be a pariah statement to make even among Democratic politicians. It no longer is.
Demographics are changing and even with voter suppression laws may not be enough, or worse, could actually stop their own voters. Add to that, calling COVID a hoax probably killed off a number of their voters as well.
They have the courts for awhile, no thanks to Moscow Mitch, but losing Georgia and Arizona was the canary in the coal mine. The nut jobs are delusional and think there are more of them than there actually is. Texas may be poaching some businesses off of California, but here's the rub, they often come with Democratic voters. Should they lose that state, its going to take awhile before they can rebuild their party.
haele
(12,661 posts)Big GQP donors and support infrastructure are trying to grasp permanent power or destroy the country trying. They see the writing on the wall, and are short-sighted enough to think they can kill representative democracy and still be able to retain power and wealth in little feudal eco-enclaves.
They don't care about business or the country, they care about their sheep and private armies.
Haele
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)isnt this great ? (Flounder)
lindysalsagal
(20,710 posts)Not holding my breath. They sold their souls to the devil as an admission fee to the GQP.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)I know i'm alone but im thinking this could bring back 10-20% of sane repubs.
I think they will end up staring their own party.