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Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:09 PM May 2021

On MSNBC, there have been several hints that the NEVER TRUMP REPUBS are organizing.

The latest is that in a month there will be a traditional conservative organization/party to counter Dump.

Figure 30% of repubs want no part of TFG. It will confirm a civil war in the GQP.

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"Trump’s GOP Enemies Try 3 Strategies for Survival"

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-republican-enemies-survival-strategies.html


This is a tough time to be a Republican politician who is known to be on Donald Trump’s long list of people he regards as disloyal to his continued domination of the GOP. Those on the outs with the 45th president have adopted different strategies for survival. This past weekend, former House Speaker Paul Ryan — who may or may not try to return to the spotlight, perhaps even as a presidential candidate — told the Associated Press that the debate over fealty to Trump “is going to fade,” adding, “I think circumstances, ideas, and new candidates are going to … overshadow that whole conversation.” Ryan, never a MAGA favorite, is echoing the dismissive attitude of GOP types that Trump has repeatedly refuted since he first decided to run for president in 2015.

Responding to shouts of “traitor” and “communist” being audibly hurled at him on his home turf, Romney asked, “Aren’t you embarrassed?” He did narrowly survive a censure resolution offered a bit later, which attacked him for supporting “two illegitimate impeachment trials” that “hurt the Constitution and hurt the party.”

This wasn’t Romney’s first collision with a Republican state convention, an event that is always dominated by hard-core conservative ideologues (this year’s delegates cheered Romney’s Senate colleague Mike Lee just as “lustily” as they booed Romney). When he ran for the Senate in 2018, Romney failed to win the state convention’s endorsement for the GOP nomination. Trump wasn’t much of a factor in that insult to the former Massachusetts governor; the two men were in a temporary period of détente at the time. Romney’s perceived ideological heresies were aggravated by anger at him for supporting an alternative path to nominations not controlled by conventions. But he wasn’t booed then or nearly censured. And Romney went on to win 73 percent of the vote in the subsequent primary, earning congratulations from Trump.

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Another target of Trumpian loathing, Georgia governor Brian Kemp, doesn’t have the bright stain of votes for removing Trump from office but has committed the equally grave sin of obstructing the former president’s attempted election coup and, worse yet, not believing he was robbed. Unlike Romney’s defiant pose and appeal to Republican and conservative orthodoxy, Kemp has pursued a strategy of Trumpism without Trump, embracing MAGA priorities in order to cut down the temperature of his dispute with his party’s dark lord. He has shrewdly made himself the chief apologist for Georgia’s new vote-suppressing election law, whose entire rationale is based on Trump’s lies about 2020. And more recently, he made an entirely gratuitous daylong trip to visit Georgia National Guardsmen serving on the U.S.-Mexico border in Texas, identifying himself with an even more obvious Trump cause.




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I hope they do.



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On MSNBC, there have been several hints that the NEVER TRUMP REPUBS are organizing. (Original Post) Rustyeye77 May 2021 OP
Make it so. FSogol May 2021 #1
Are There Really Enough "Never Trump" Republicans to Make a Difference? What About Infrastructure? Indykatie May 2021 #2
Even 10% would destroy Trumpism Rustyeye77 May 2021 #10
Maybe if they just wait it out. I know it's tough when campaigns last for years and we're... TreasonousBastard May 2021 #3
They'd better TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #4
straight white xtian males in the daylight. in the dark of night???? bullimiami May 2021 #6
It would be nice but I wouldn't count on it pandr32 May 2021 #5
When the fish dies, it's the head that dies first. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #11
Every faction of the party sucks. CentralMass May 2021 #7
Time for the GOP to break in two Blue Owl May 2021 #8
I think its possible...not in half but enough to prevent the Trumpists from getting elected. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #20
I could be happy about this as long as they don't start barking about Reagan FakeNoose May 2021 #9
The "enemies list" that pendejo cited at CPAC should join them, too, imo. ancianita May 2021 #12
I hope they will. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #14
They need new ideas...very badly. Xolodno May 2021 #13
Doubt it will happen. haele May 2021 #15
Ta-da...This Thursday is the annocement. Rustyeye77 May 2021 #16
Right. All 4 & 1/2 of them, only 2 with balls enough to go public. lindysalsagal May 2021 #17
I'll believe this when I see it... First Speaker May 2021 #18
This Thursday...Rally against Trump Rustyeye77 May 2021 #19
I have full confidence they are being monitored. LiberatedUSA May 2021 #21

Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
2. Are There Really Enough "Never Trump" Republicans to Make a Difference? What About Infrastructure?
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:19 PM
May 2021

Trump controls the GOP party apparatus and as such the financial machine for now. If big donors and corporations stopped donating to the Trump controlled GOP that would make a big difference.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Maybe if they just wait it out. I know it's tough when campaigns last for years and we're...
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:20 PM
May 2021

already working on 2022, but Bloviation Central seems to be going the way of the Tea Party.

Not disappearing, but not really a force as time goes on. It's really tough to keep up that intensity for long without a real point or program.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
4. They'd better
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:21 PM
May 2021

and they'd better get used to America getting less white and do something to appeal to someone other than straight, white, Christian males.

pandr32

(11,594 posts)
5. It would be nice but I wouldn't count on it
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:27 PM
May 2021

The former guy isn't the only one with a strangle hold on the Insurrectionist Party.

FakeNoose

(32,671 posts)
9. I could be happy about this as long as they don't start barking about Reagan
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:51 PM
May 2021

... and their "glorious years" of libertarianism. Just trash the memory of Chump and it's all good.

ancianita

(36,112 posts)
12. The "enemies list" that pendejo cited at CPAC should join them, too, imo.
Fri May 7, 2021, 06:00 PM
May 2021
Senators

Mitt Romney, UT
Ben Sasse, NE
Richard Burr, NC
Bill Cassidy, LA
Susan Collins, ME
Lisa Murkowski, AK
Pat Toomey, PA

House Representatives

Tom Rice, SC
Adam Kinzinger, IL
Dan Newhouse, WA
Anthony Gonzalez, OH
Fred Upton, MI
Jaime Herrera-Beutler, WA
Peter Meijer, MI
John Katko, NY
David Valadao, CA
Liz Cheney WY

Xolodno

(6,398 posts)
13. They need new ideas...very badly.
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:15 PM
May 2021

And they know they need them.

Biden's comment about trickle down economics as having failed, used to be a pariah statement to make even among Democratic politicians. It no longer is.

Demographics are changing and even with voter suppression laws may not be enough, or worse, could actually stop their own voters. Add to that, calling COVID a hoax probably killed off a number of their voters as well.

They have the courts for awhile, no thanks to Moscow Mitch, but losing Georgia and Arizona was the canary in the coal mine. The nut jobs are delusional and think there are more of them than there actually is. Texas may be poaching some businesses off of California, but here's the rub, they often come with Democratic voters. Should they lose that state, its going to take awhile before they can rebuild their party.

haele

(12,661 posts)
15. Doubt it will happen.
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:59 PM
May 2021

Big GQP donors and support infrastructure are trying to grasp permanent power or destroy the country trying. They see the writing on the wall, and are short-sighted enough to think they can kill representative democracy and still be able to retain power and wealth in little feudal eco-enclaves.

They don't care about business or the country, they care about their sheep and private armies.

Haele

lindysalsagal

(20,710 posts)
17. Right. All 4 & 1/2 of them, only 2 with balls enough to go public.
Sat May 8, 2021, 11:09 AM
May 2021

Not holding my breath. They sold their souls to the devil as an admission fee to the GQP.

 

Rustyeye77

(2,736 posts)
19. This Thursday...Rally against Trump
Sat May 8, 2021, 11:28 AM
May 2021

I know i'm alone but im thinking this could bring back 10-20% of sane repubs.

I think they will end up staring their own party.

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