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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Tue May 11, 2021, 08:55 PM May 2021

Group of Republicans Threatens to Start Third Party

Group of Republicans Threatens to Start Third Party

May 11, 2021 at 8:17 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 4 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/05/11/group-of-republicans-threatens-to-start-third-party/

"SNIP.....

“More than 100 Republicans, including some former elected officials, are preparing to release a letter this week threatening to form a third party if the Republican Party does not make certain changes,” the New York Times reports.

“The statement is expected to take aim at Donald J. Trump’s stranglehold on Republicans, which signatories to the document have deemed unconscionable.”

......SNIP"

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Group of Republicans Threatens to Start Third Party (Original Post) applegrove May 2021 OP
Go for it! sheshe2 May 2021 #1
Yay . . . Lovie777 May 2021 #2
Do it do it do it... nocoincidences May 2021 #3
.. roamer65 May 2021 #4
So we already have the Retrumplicans, why not the Detrumplicans? nt Shermann May 2021 #5
It's way too late to Untrumplican. nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #32
This just begs for Dumtrumplican n/t aggiesal May 2021 #41
Hahaha! ❤ nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #49
I believe the proper form of the word is UnTrumplicate or UnTrumplication. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #55
Haha! ❤ nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #56
things are too trumplicated at the moment nt uriel1972 May 2021 #53
Don't just threaten! Diamond_Dog May 2021 #6
I'll wish them well at peeling away Vogon_Glory May 2021 #7
I'll wish them well at peeling away Vogon_Glory May 2021 #8
Is it just me EarlG May 2021 #9
I like cilla4progress May 2021 #10
You are mistaken. He has already made the error. /nt localroger May 2021 #13
Heh, fair point EarlG May 2021 #15
He probably realizes EYESORE 9001 May 2021 #17
oh yes bdamomma May 2021 #18
If dems had a messaging infrastructure that could establish the mistake ... yeah, we don't though uponit7771 May 2021 #37
I certainly hope so! calimary May 2021 #45
Border Arrests at Highest In Two Decades elleng May 2021 #11
I've been waiting for this part... 2naSalit May 2021 #12
The Liz Dunking is the last straw localroger May 2021 #14
More than 100 Republicans, including some that know Republicans don't listen, taxi May 2021 #16
If they form third party they're not just shaking fist no doubt uponit7771 May 2021 #40
The fist shakers would be the remaining Republicans who see the party as a political entity. taxi May 2021 #60
Shut up and do it! It's all hot air unless you act. JHB May 2021 #19
My sentiments exactly! Wounded Bear May 2021 #20
+1, true uponit7771 May 2021 #38
What did they do 50 years ago that was something positive? n/t aggiesal May 2021 #42
Allowing for rounding up... JHB May 2021 #61
Call it the Lincoln Party. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #21
I think they should call themselves The Republican Party. GoodRaisin May 2021 #46
I sure hope they follow through w this. FlyingPiggy May 2021 #22
OOF! n/t brewens May 2021 #23
? Please explain. TIA littlemissmartypants May 2021 #34
The sound you make when punched in the gut. :) n/t brewens May 2021 #47
❤ nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #48
Good. I'll even donate. nt Imallin4Joe May 2021 #24
They already have the libertarians (a joke of a party). keithbvadu2 May 2021 #25
Are the Never Trumpers doing this because they have some fealty to the democratic ideals of... LudwigPastorius May 2021 #26
Great idea! I would do the same in your shoes. AllyCat May 2021 #27
It's definitely a "please proceed" moment. nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #36
If They Return to True, Sensible Conservatism, People Will Come panfluteman May 2021 #28
I know what you mean, but American "conservatism" hasn't been sensible since Ike left office Martin Eden May 2021 #63
"Threatens??" They already have. They just don't know it. nt joetheman May 2021 #29
How can I help? Seriously it would neuter the current brand of crazy and decimate the gop PortTack May 2021 #30
Lots of former elected officials, per the glimpse of the NYT I saw . .. hatrack May 2021 #31
They need some big time funders. gab13by13 May 2021 #33
Why does Snidely Whiplash come to my mind? nt littlemissmartypants May 2021 #35
Don't hold yourselves back! Hekate May 2021 #39
Why should a Dems care WTF they do. They the Pukes speaknow May 2021 #43
That would split SCOTUS into ... aggiesal May 2021 #44
1912. roamer65 May 2021 #50
Can I donate? lindysalsagal May 2021 #51
Alrighty then n/t shanti May 2021 #52
they need to stop talking and just fucking DO IT Skittles May 2021 #54
...a sternly-worded letter? LudwigPastorius May 2021 #57
Show me. herding cats May 2021 #58
If it is a strong party it could cause Congress to pick the president and vice-president. marie999 May 2021 #59
To me, this is what they need to do, break loose from the crazies that have overtaken the GOP. There RKP5637 May 2021 #62

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
7. I'll wish them well at peeling away
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:09 PM
May 2021

Disgruntled voters from Trump, but I won’t vote for them. I see myself as a Democrat.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
8. I'll wish them well at peeling away
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:09 PM
May 2021

Disgruntled voters from Trump, but I won’t vote for them. I see myself as a Democrat.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
9. Is it just me
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:09 PM
May 2021

or does anyone else have the feeling that Kevin McCarthy is on the verge of making a huge and historic tactical error?

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
15. Heh, fair point
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:22 PM
May 2021

Then, he's on the verge of finding out just how much damage the error is going to do

EYESORE 9001

(25,939 posts)
17. He probably realizes
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:31 PM
May 2021

that he has made a very unwise deal with the devil, who packs his balls around in a small leather bag.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
37. If dems had a messaging infrastructure that could establish the mistake ... yeah, we don't though
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:11 PM
May 2021

elleng

(130,912 posts)
11. Border Arrests at Highest In Two Decades
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:13 PM
May 2021

Border Arrests at Highest In Two Decades

May 11, 2021 at 8:15 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 1 Comment

https://politicalwire.com/2021/05/11/border-arrests-highest-in-two-decades/

"SNIP.....

“Immigration arrests and detentions along the Mexico border rose slightly in April to 178,622, the highest one-month total in two decades, but a decline in the number of teens and children arriving without parents eased pressure on the Biden administration,” the Washington Post reports.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
14. The Liz Dunking is the last straw
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:22 PM
May 2021

The people who used to actually run the party have been holding back and hoping the trump thing would just be a fever that would pass, but as it becomes clear they will never regain control of "their" party they will move to destroy it rather than see it fall out of their control, even if that leaves them out of power for a generation. They have given the interlopers every chance but I think the Liz witchhunt will be the final straw. This is the thing that will finally split them, because you don't fuck with the Cheneys.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
16. More than 100 Republicans, including some that know Republicans don't listen,
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:27 PM
May 2021

shook their fists and yelled.

Nobody listened.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
60. The fist shakers would be the remaining Republicans who see the party as a political entity.
Wed May 12, 2021, 07:19 AM
May 2021

Liken it to the early days of the internet when people thought it was a nice concept and felt it was too bad no one could figure out a way to make money from it. Undoubtedly there are members of the Republican of the opinion that it is nice to get a check from the government for the office they hold, but it's even nicer to rake in the loot from the new and improved divisions, theater, merchandise, lobbyists, road shows, etc.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
19. Shut up and do it! It's all hot air unless you act.
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:45 PM
May 2021

All of those former officials spent their careers during a time when "ignore the uproar and brazen it out" was standard Republican practice.

If you people don't take real action, that's what they'll do to you. Ignore you. And make you pay, where they can.

Shit or get off the pot. Actually do something.

You'll be the first Republicans in 50 years to do something positive.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
61. Allowing for rounding up...
Wed May 12, 2021, 07:30 AM
May 2021

Telling Nixon he was leaving the White House. Left it up to him whether he left through the door or out the window, but he was going.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
21. Call it the Lincoln Party.
Tue May 11, 2021, 09:47 PM
May 2021

Lincoln Project can help with marketing and strategy. Be happy to help save Democracy by killing the current Trumpian Republican Party.

GoodRaisin

(8,923 posts)
46. I think they should call themselves The Republican Party.
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:35 PM
May 2021

Let the Trumpers take a new name. Call it The Party of Trump. (I'm sure he'd like that anyway).

keithbvadu2

(36,809 posts)
25. They already have the libertarians (a joke of a party).
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:21 PM
May 2021

They already have the libertarians (a joke of a party).

LudwigPastorius

(9,148 posts)
26. Are the Never Trumpers doing this because they have some fealty to the democratic ideals of...
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:33 PM
May 2021

this country, or just because they're pissed off that they lost their party?

Also, if this list includes Reagan/Bush(I&II) era Republicans, is there really that much of a difference between Crypto-Fascists and actual Fascists?

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
28. If They Return to True, Sensible Conservatism, People Will Come
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:43 PM
May 2021

Because America needs true, sincere dialogue on the issues confronting our nation from both liberals / progressives as well as conservatives. The focus should be on the issues, and the competing visions of what is best for our nation, and not a mere personality cult of one individual.

Martin Eden

(12,868 posts)
63. I know what you mean, but American "conservatism" hasn't been sensible since Ike left office
Wed May 12, 2021, 12:38 PM
May 2021

Trickle down economics, environmental deregulation, and militarism have never been sensible in terms of sustaining our republic and the planet which sustains life itself.

Only in comparison to the current cult of Trump does the former Republican Party seem sensible.

PortTack

(32,769 posts)
30. How can I help? Seriously it would neuter the current brand of crazy and decimate the gop
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:50 PM
May 2021

Other than the cult and the deposed idiot king

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
31. Lots of former elected officials, per the glimpse of the NYT I saw . ..
Tue May 11, 2021, 10:53 PM
May 2021

Didn't see a thing about sitting members of anything at all, be it school boards of the US House.

BFD.

speaknow

(321 posts)
43. Why should a Dems care WTF they do. They the Pukes
Tue May 11, 2021, 11:27 PM
May 2021

give that SOB power because they the Pukes have
nothing to offer the public. The pukes are nothing but
an empty vessel all of them. Look how they can fill
up the news with the Cheney BS. This Country has
more important matters than the life of Liz.

LudwigPastorius

(9,148 posts)
57. ...a sternly-worded letter?
Wed May 12, 2021, 03:33 AM
May 2021

Fuck these guys. Seriously, fuck 'em.

Children in cages, "fine people on both sides", 400,000 dead Americans on his watch, 22,000+ verified lies, 2 impeachments, encouraging a violent coup attempt....

The fact that these motherfuckers haven't left the party that propped Trump up ALREADY indicates just how morally bankrupt they are.

I'll say it again, Fuck Them.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
58. Show me.
Wed May 12, 2021, 03:42 AM
May 2021

All the words in the world mean nothing, actions matter. Especially now. Show me who and what you are. If they're all inept blather, as I expect, just be quiet. I'm bored with their postering. It's long past time for action on their part.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
59. If it is a strong party it could cause Congress to pick the president and vice-president.
Wed May 12, 2021, 05:44 AM
May 2021

It will depend on how many Republicans and independents will vote for the new party. If they can win enough states to keep anyone from getting 270 electoral votes it will depend on which party controls the House and Senate. They will pick the president and vice-president from any of the three top parties.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
62. To me, this is what they need to do, break loose from the crazies that have overtaken the GOP. There
Wed May 12, 2021, 10:23 AM
May 2021

was a time when one could work with the GOP, way back, but those days are long gone.

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