Fuck Liz Cheney

[underpants]

Not being an idiot doesn’t make you a hero.
She’s wrapped, coated, and dipped in privilege. She could be a representative for 12 people* or making big bucks on The View or some sort of copy cat.




*to be accurate there are more people than that there.

[hlthe2b]

1. Fine, but I'm concentrated on the meltdown this causes the Other Guy on a daily basis.

and that gives me just a modicum of pleasure.

[quakerboy]

17. Does it?

everyone said the the same hopeful positive things about many republicans through the trump era, and the bush era before that.

And they all fell in line when it was important.

To me it looks like a public feud to rile the base, while allowing Cheney to create a fallback position for the GOP in case the main fascist attack fails catastrophically (It is still quite active and has not failed, given that no one in power has paid any real cost for the attempt to overthrow the government as yet, the ringleaders are one and all still free and still plotting their next move, and the politicians are vigerously working to make sure they can fully control who they will allow to vote in the future).

I'd bet that Cheney and trump in a closed door meeting would have little to no disagreement.

[hlthe2b]

19. Oh, for gawd's sakes. No. I don't believe that.

I have written extensively about my own intense disdain for the Cheneys, as I had a professional encounter with Dick many years ago that was exceedingly unpleasant, to say the least, and set me up for the utter contempt I have had for decades--with great subsequent validation.

But, even conspiracy theories need to be bounded within logic.

[quakerboy]

41. Trust a republican, get burned

She voted against impeaching him until it looked like he might fail.

[FoxNewsSucks]

2. tRumphumping loyalists are in her way.

That's the only reason she speaks the truth. She'll willingly lie like a republican about everything else

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. I'd be happy if she accomplished this....

[cilla4progress]

4. I agree.

We should not have to say this is BRAVE!

[Deuxcents]

8. Wellll

I have posted here I thought she was brave. I said that in the pretense she was speaking truth to power on the issue that The Big Lie was just that. A
Big lie. No one was coming to her side of truth. Every day it’s something.. I really don’t care about her politics as long as she’s speaking truth to power. If she has that much going for her, can’t we work with that? If she speaks truth than can’t we work with her? And why not?

[ShazzieB]

14. I love what she's doing.

She IS speaking truth to power, and I DO enjoy watching a woman (or a man, if there was one) standing up to all those slimy sniveling sycophant Trumpublicans who are making asses of themselves pushing the Big Lie and prostrating themselves at the smelly orange feet of the Big Liar.

I was quite impressed with her speech. It was great to see someone stand up and call out Trump on all of his election fraud b.s. and call out all of the Republicans who have chosen supporting the Big Liar over supporting our democracy. I don't have to agree with her politics or support her politcal ambitions to recognize the value of that and be happy to see it happen.

I'm pretty sure she made some of those worms squirm today, and I can't not be pleased about that.

[Pepsidog]

16. Me too and it's fun to watch.

[Baked Potato]

5. Agreed. NT

[Raine]

6. She's not doing anything except what she thinks will benefit her. nt

[StarfishSaver]

28. Exactly

She's playing the long game.

[rogue emissary]

7. K&R for visibility.

[TraceNC]

9. Many Republicans (Trumpists) agree with you.

[Celerity]

10. and?

The OP is saying fuck Cheney for massively different reasons. But you knew that.

welcome to DU

enjoy your stay

[TraceNC]

21. And

I just don’t think one has to do with the other. Why any Democrat isn’t enjoying watching the Trumpists and traditional Republicans fighting and damaging that party is a mystery to me. Romney is basically the Liz Cheney of the Senate and yet there’s more vitriol for her. Maybe it’s a sexist thing. Who knows. Also, I see Democrats enjoying the shitshow civil war in the Republican Party; I don’t see Democrats calling Cheney “a hero.” So that’s a straw man.

And thanks for the welcome! Still seeing my way around here. What does “3 posts hidden in 90 days: -60” in your profile mean?

[Celerity]

23. you tried to tie the OP to the QMAGATs with your positing, do not play coy

and

this

What does “3 posts hidden in 90 days: -60” in your profile mean?

is

(A) none of your business

(B) can bee seen as a personal attack via baiting, and trying to set me up via targeting

and

(C) Probably in violation of the DU TOS



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[TraceNC]

25. What I posted was true.

I really don’t think you have any basis to prove my motive. That’s a personal attack.

And does copying and pasting the rule about not sending messages about site rules violate the rule about not posting messages about site rules?

[Celerity]

27. you are more than likely violating TOS, and no, posting TOS is not a violation nt

[TraceNC]

31. Is that what a hidden post means?

Not sure how I’d go on with my life if my access to a message board was restricted. Thanks for the warning.

[quakerboy]

42. civil war?

A, nothing the republicans do is civil.

B.. 10 out of 212 is not a civil war. A larger percentage of registered Democrats voted for trump than the percentage of house republicans that voted against him. Heck, a larger percent of registered Republicans voted against trump than that of house republicans. There is no war, there is only Republicans pushing for different strategies in their fight to achieve fascism.

[Raine]

18. So??? even a stopped clock is right twice a day. 🤔 nt

[TraceNC]

22. Good one.

[StarfishSaver]

29. They do?

Did you read the OP?

[TraceNC]

32. They absolutely do despise her.

They just voted her out of leadership. Of course, a lot of this is just pure sexism.

Her policy positions are abhorrent and she comes from one of the worst political legacy families of the last 30 years, but I for one am glad that she is causing political disruption within the republican party. I don’t know why any Democrat wouldn’t be happy to see that.

[StarfishSaver]

33. They despise her for very different reasons than we do

[TraceNC]

34. True.

I’m referring more broadly, to the effort to diminish her standing (or maybe silence her) via any kind of criticism. It makes sense for a Trumpist to do that; it doesn’t make sense at all, on this current issue, for a Democrat to do that.

[Deuxcents]

11. Help me out here

Biden has reached out .. I just cannot believe every R has been converted to the big lie.. true that their backbone is mush.. we need everyone to get these bills pasted n get our country going in the right direction.. aren’t we the United States of America as I believe in.. don’t fall for the us vs them all the time. We can work with some.. not all of our opponents.. we just can’t fall into what They have become. JMO..

[keithbvadu2]

12. Relatively good. Still just different levels of bad.

Relatively good. Still just different levels of bad.

[Midnight Writer]

13. I've had that same phrase on my mind several times today.

She's the Queen of Imaginary WMDs.

The Old School "Big Lie"

[MerryBlooms]

15. She's dancin' with the folks that brought her. I have no tears for Cheney. n/t

[NurseJackie]

20. I like her! She's a thorn in the side of McConnell and the rest of the Trumpers.

That's enough for me.

[USALiberal]

38. I agree!!! Nt

[lpbk2713]

39. She is serving a purpose.

I'll say that much for her.

[malaise]

24. Ditto

Rec

[Bettie]

26. We can appreciate that she's not willing to go as far as

screaming that Trump didn't lose.

But, she was and is willing to go everywhere else they go.

She just doesn't like Trump.

So, I can applaud the one decent thing she's ever done while recognizing that she is not now and will never be our ally.

[MineralMan]

30. No thanks. She's not my type.

Seriously, using that language in that way does not make the point you hope to make. I don't like Liz Cheney. I don't trust her for one minute. But, using a violent-sounding word for sexual intercourse to express your disdain for her is inappropriate, I think.

I would like to see that usage disappear entirely, frankly.

[USALiberal]

35. I 100% agree! Nt

[TraceNC]

37. It is absolutely sexist.

[USALiberal]

36. Classy as usual! Nt

[Paladin]

40. Full credit to Cheney for disrupting trump's fascist forces.

I'll grant her that, while despising the other 99% of her career.

[Dorian Gray]

43. I think it's complicated

She's doing the right thing in this instance. For self serving reasons? Maybe. She'll be the leader of the GOP resistance, potentially setting her up in four years.

Her politics are antithetical to everything I stand for, yet I still have enjoyed watching her stick it to the GOP. Doesn't mean I'm going to vote for her ever.