Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

speak easy

(9,249 posts)
Wed May 12, 2021, 04:03 AM May 2021

WTF. SF Gate criticizes Disney's Snow White ride.

If Prince Charming kisses Snow White while she is asleep, she did not consent - I mean really?

Disneyland's new Snow White ride adds magic, but also a new problem

Let's get this out of the way first: Snow White's Enchanted Wish, the revamped ride that replaced Snow White's Scary Adventures in Disneyland, is really good. The attraction preserves much of the charm of what originally opened in 1955 at the park's debut, but ...

... The new grand finale of Snow White's Enchanted Wish is the moment when the Prince finds Snow White asleep under the Evil Queen's spell and gives her "true love's kiss" to release her from the enchantment. A kiss he gives to her without her consent, while she's asleep, which cannot possibly be true love if only one person knows it's happening.

Haven't we already agreed that consent in early Disney movies is a major issue? That teaching kids that kissing, when it hasn't been established if both parties are willing to engage, is not OK? It's hard to understand why the Disneyland of 2021 would choose to add a scene with such old fashioned ideas of what a man is allowed to do to a woman, especially given the company's current emphasis on removing problematic scenes from rides like Jungle Cruise and Splash Mountain. Why not re-imagine an ending in keeping with the spirit of the movie and Snow White's place in the Disney canon, but that avoids this problem?

https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/2021-04-snow-whites-enchanted-wish-changes-witch-16144353.php

Brain dead.

6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
WTF. SF Gate criticizes Disney's Snow White ride. (Original Post) speak easy May 2021 OP
The Disney Princess genre teaches girls terrible lessons. SunSeeker May 2021 #1
Yep. Demovictory9 May 2021 #2
Nah. This is a terribly outdated opinion. Takket May 2021 #3
Yeah, it's a reflection of its time. A few years ago, nattyice May 2021 #4
Yeah, they've become a bit more aware of their own old tropes... JHB May 2021 #5
Those "big 3" are still the big 3. Go into any Disney Princess section of a Disney shop. SunSeeker May 2021 #6

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
1. The Disney Princess genre teaches girls terrible lessons.
Wed May 12, 2021, 05:07 AM
May 2021

Yes there are some exceptions, like in Frozen, but for the most part, the Disney Princess stories teach girls helplessness and tells kids only beautiful girls deserve happiness, and that women need men to rescue them.and make them happy.

The kiss by the prince was the least of the issues with Snow White, particularly since Snow White famously sang that "someday my prince will come," so it wasn't exactly univited/unwanted:





Takket

(21,568 posts)
3. Nah. This is a terribly outdated opinion.
Wed May 12, 2021, 06:25 AM
May 2021

The “helpless princess” trope basically surrounds the original “big three” of snow white, Cinderella, and sleeping beauty. Which BTW were all fairy tales adapted by Disney to family friendly versions for the big screen.

The last of those movies came out in 1959 and society and Disney have kind of changed since then. I mean honestly, in the last 6 decades since sleeping beauty can you cite another movie featuring the helpless princess trope?



nattyice

(331 posts)
4. Yeah, it's a reflection of its time. A few years ago,
Wed May 12, 2021, 06:48 AM
May 2021

I saw the 1979 Superman film. I was shocked to see how much people smoked in the office news room.

However, I think the 2021 Snow White exhibit should have had a little more thought out into it to reflect TODAY’s society, and what’s right and what’s wrong.

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
6. Those "big 3" are still the big 3. Go into any Disney Princess section of a Disney shop.
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:50 AM
May 2021

Cinderella's castle is still the symbol of Disneyland.

Ariel, in The Little Mermaid, is a recent, very popular princess, and she gives up her fishtail to be with her "prince."

And of course all the princesses are still made to look unrealistically beautiful.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»WTF. SF Gate criticizes D...