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Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
Wed May 12, 2021, 07:32 PM May 2021

Just indict the fraudster and let's be done with him! Here are pending cases.

https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/

1. E. Jean Carroll Defamation Suit
2. Summer Zervos Defamation Suit
3. Mary Trump Fraud Litigation
4. Panama Hotel Fraud and Tax Litigation
5. Doe v. The Trump Corporation Class Action
6. DC Civil Suit over Misuse of 2017 Inauguration Funds
7. Bennie Thompson Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
8. Eric Swalwell Incitement Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
9. Capitol Police Suit for Jan. 6 Riots
10. NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund Voting Rights Case
11. NY Civil Suit over Fraudulent Real Estate Practices
12. Investigations into Trump’s Finances
13. DC Attorney General Incitement Investigation for Attack on U.S. Capitol
14. Fulton County, Georgia Criminal Election Influence Investigation  
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Just indict the fraudster and let's be done with him! Here are pending cases. (Original Post) Under The Radar May 2021 OP
Lock him up! He's already relocated to nj. It'll be easy to nab him soothsayer May 2021 #1
Trump is in New Jersey? brooklynite May 2021 #7
He is indeed, at his golf club soothsayer May 2021 #8
The perp is now at 900 Lannington Rd, Bedminster, NJ for the remainder of the summer. Thank you. soothsayer May 2021 #9
Bookmarking! PortTack May 2021 #2
There's a lot of people that want him, Dan May 2021 #3
Iran has had a reward for his head for sometime now Under The Radar May 2021 #4
Most of these are civil lawsuits, not criminal cases StarfishSaver May 2021 #5
Hornets nest of potential criminal charges in the NY financial fraud case Under The Radar May 2021 #6
Criminal and civil cases move very slowly StarfishSaver May 2021 #11
I have been through my share and I am aware of all stall tactics Under The Radar May 2021 #12
Let's see if Don McGahn will perjure himself or not... Justice matters. May 2021 #15
Preet Bharara is predicting fireworks coming forth from NYC DA Cy Vance FakeNoose May 2021 #10
At this point, I'll believe it when I see it. maxsolomon May 2021 #18
At this point, I'll take anything Snackshack May 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Dan May 2021 #14
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215425674 Under The Radar May 2021 #16
He's never going to jail. maxsolomon May 2021 #19
He is going down and going down hard. Under The Radar May 2021 #21
Yeah, the popcorn will be stale when he "goes down hard". maxsolomon May 2021 #22
It must be frustrating being a Trump MAGAt on a progressive site. Under The Radar May 2021 #23
K&R UTUSN May 2021 #17
That's it? GoCubsGo May 2021 #20

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. The perp is now at 900 Lannington Rd, Bedminster, NJ for the remainder of the summer. Thank you.
Wed May 12, 2021, 09:13 PM
May 2021

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Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski
Dear Fulton DA, US Attorney DC, US Attorney SDNY, Manhattan DA, process servers, and bail bonds agents. Leave us alone in FL this summer. The perp is now at 900 Lannington Rd, Bedminster, NJ for the remainder of the summer. Thank you.

Dan

(3,564 posts)
3. There's a lot of people that want him,
Wed May 12, 2021, 08:49 PM
May 2021

Then there are his friends overseas that might want a piece of him,

1. Russian Oligarchs that he owes money,
2. Putin, in case his relationship to the Russian government becomes problematic,
3. Iran, cause he did authorize the killing of a member of their leadership team,
4. Kurds,
5. North Korea and South Korea - not sure who he pissed off most.

Hell, now that I think of it, I wouldn’t get on a plane that he was on.

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
4. Iran has had a reward for his head for sometime now
Wed May 12, 2021, 08:52 PM
May 2021

The always felt that he was a sitting duck at Maralogo for that to happen.

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
6. Hornets nest of potential criminal charges in the NY financial fraud case
Wed May 12, 2021, 09:01 PM
May 2021

Bank fraud, tax fraud, money laundering....
Campaign finance fraud for the whole family for the inauguration funds....big enough to send Michael Cohen to the big house.
Criminal or civil, get him under oath in depositions and there will be many more criminal charges.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
11. Criminal and civil cases move very slowly
Wed May 12, 2021, 10:02 PM
May 2021

It will probably be years before anyone can get him under oath in the civil litigation depositions.

And prosecutors can't "just indict" people in criminal investigations. If they want to get to trial and obtain a conviction, they need to build a very rock solid case. They need much more than what would be enough for you or I to believe he's guilty as sin.

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
12. I have been through my share and I am aware of all stall tactics
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:00 PM
May 2021

Average time to get to Trial is about a year and we are looking at a few of them are pushing the 4 year mark now. Cy Vance has All the evidence from Trumps tax returnsas well as Deutscha bank loan record. E Jean Carol has the supreme courts permission to dipose Trump. Manifort, Gates, Stone and Cohen got convictions and time in 18 months.....this has everything to do with prosecuting a former President.

Justice matters.

(6,929 posts)
15. Let's see if Don McGahn will perjure himself or not...
Thu May 13, 2021, 01:13 AM
May 2021
Breaking: Here's the Donald McGahn agreement to speak to US House Judiciary

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215424622



I bet he will tell all.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
10. Preet Bharara is predicting fireworks coming forth from NYC DA Cy Vance
Wed May 12, 2021, 09:13 PM
May 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215421845

Former US Attorney Preet Bharara Says Trump Facing "A Good Likelihood of a Charge" in NYC

One of Donald Trump’s first actions as President was to fire US Attorney Preet Bharara. The move was met with widespread condemnation. Bharara had become a hero in New York City after prosecuting a number of the city’s worst financial cheats.

The former US Attorney now works as a distinguished scholar at NYU and hosts a couple of podcasts. Bharara recently talked about Trump’s New York City legal troubles with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick.

- snip -

Bharara responded, “The one that we know about most directly and most prominently is the one you mentioned, the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into Trump’s finances and business dealings. I don’t know because I’ve not been in the grand jury, I’ve not interviewed the witnesses. Cy Vance doesn’t call me up and tell me stuff, but there is some signaling going on.”

The former US Attorney continued, “He’s (Cy Vance) done something else that is less common, which is hire an outside lawyer, Mark Pomerantz, who’s a very distinguished, well-respected lawyer in New York. I’m not going to put too much weight on it, but it seems like the kind of move you make when you believe that there’s going to be a charge or there’s a good likelihood of a charge, because it’s a pretty public thing to do.”


- more at link -

The fact that AG Vance has hired an outside prosecutor to handle the litigation is a sure sign that it's all on the front-burner.


maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
18. At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:25 PM
May 2021

The wheels of Justice are turning a mite too slow for me.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
13. At this point, I'll take anything
Wed May 12, 2021, 11:05 PM
May 2021

Like they did with Capone. I would be happy with just a simple tax fraud charge as long as it put him in jail. Long as he is in jail for a longtime whether it’s for killing 100,000’s of Americans or trying to overthrow the government or lying on a bank document/tax form I don’t care he would at least be in jail.

Curious DU- did you tell One Nation the ad spend here was kind of pointless? I am seeing tons of adds telling me to tell Sinema or Manchin to vote no on HR1 / SB1...

Response to Snackshack (Reply #13)

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. He's never going to jail.
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:28 PM
May 2021

Worst case scenario for anything he's facing is: he pays a fine. Ex-Presidents don't go to jail.

He still has his 75 million dollar IRS refund; that will cover any penalty he faces. The JCOT doesn't appear to be doing jack shit about it.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
22. Yeah, the popcorn will be stale when he "goes down hard".
Thu May 13, 2021, 07:57 PM
May 2021

We need action to occur PRIOR to the midterms, but Trump's MO has been delay delay delay in the Courts.

And it's worked to this point.

Under The Radar

(3,404 posts)
23. It must be frustrating being a Trump MAGAt on a progressive site.
Thu May 13, 2021, 09:35 PM
May 2021

A fight for an extradition shield? In Florida?! Palm Beach 🏝officials know something is coming pretty quick!
Criminal Indictment! ...in an orange jumpsuit!

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/05/13/how-palm-beach-is-preparing-for-a-possible-trump-indictment-492836

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
20. That's it?
Thu May 13, 2021, 02:31 PM
May 2021

I figured there would be WAY more than that. I suspect that #12 is going to explode into at least a half dozen others.

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