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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Fri May 14, 2021, 02:57 PM May 2021

John Podesta's got a message for Joe Biden: Drop the Republicans

A raft of influential progressive and environmental groups has a message for the Biden White House on its efforts to cut an infrastructure deal with Republicans: Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

They are sounding the alarms that compromising with Republicans on a scaled-down infrastructure bill — and spending the time that such a deal might require — could make it increasingly difficult to pass the rest of Biden’s sweeping agenda.

“It’s a risky strategy,” John Podesta, the founder of the left-leaning Center for American Progress, told POLITICO.

Podesta, the measured former counselor to President Barack Obama whose words carry weight among Democrats, is among more than a dozen liberal leaders and groups who signed a letter urging the White House and congressional leaders to act quickly on his massive $4 trillion infrastructure proposal, casting it as a once-in-a-lifetime moment that Democrats should seize on now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/risky-strategy-progressives-bristle-over-033000667.html

Joe can make the attempt to reach out but if the Repukes do not reciprocate we should go on without them.

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John Podesta's got a message for Joe Biden: Drop the Republicans (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 OP
How many features were trimmed from "Obamacare" in an effort to get a few Republican votes? Atticus May 2021 #1
Someone needs to tell Joe and Dem leaders DENVERPOPS May 2021 #7
The bottom line with Obamacare is the votes were not there...you must have the votes. Demsrule86 May 2021 #13
bipartisanship is highly over-rated when the opposition does not intend good faith. Grasswire2 May 2021 #2
Here's the scenario I fear, if we decide to go down "Bipartisan Avenue". bullwinkle428 May 2021 #3
The republicans that are in office(some of them) . . Lovie777 May 2021 #4
Stick to emailing pasta recipes John WA-03 Democrat May 2021 #5
What difference does it make. With the filibuster intact it ain't going anywhere. nt kirkuchiyo May 2021 #6
This bill qualifies to pass under budget reconciliation with 50 votes. hedda_foil May 2021 #8
We don't have 50 votes at the moment. Both Sinema and Manchin want bipartisanship. Demsrule86 May 2021 #14
I think those two Elessar Zappa May 2021 #16
I do think that is what Biden is doing Bev54 May 2021 #9
fuck. all. republicans. period NewHendoLib May 2021 #10
I voted for Joe to handle stuff. LakeArenal May 2021 #11
We have a 50 50 Senate. We have two Senators who won't vote for a bill unless it is bipartisan... Demsrule86 May 2021 #12
Swap them for Collins and Murkowski Nululu May 2021 #15
Biden campaigned on bipartisanship. SergeStorms May 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #18

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
1. How many features were trimmed from "Obamacare" in an effort to get a few Republican votes?
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:12 PM
May 2021

How many Republicans voted for it?

One definition of "insanity" is doing the same thing again and again while expecting a different result.

The Republicans can't lead and they won't follow. The least they can do---which is all anyone expects from them---is to get the hell out of the way

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
7. Someone needs to tell Joe and Dem leaders
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:49 PM
May 2021

the one about "fool me once, etc"

Just how many times did Trump and/or McConnell ask the Dems about a single F***ing thing??????

Offer to listen, then go on, full steam ahead.

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE PLAYING PATTY-CAKE, OR TO PUSSY FOOTING AROUND. TOO MUCH IS AT STAKE.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
2. bipartisanship is highly over-rated when the opposition does not intend good faith.
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:17 PM
May 2021

We've already been steamrolled even before the 2020 election. All these "negotiations" with obstructionists are a trap.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
3. Here's the scenario I fear, if we decide to go down "Bipartisan Avenue".
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:26 PM
May 2021

We water down "Infrastructure Lite, Part 1" to the point where Republicans are "satisfied" with it, and then watch exactly none of them vote for it. We're forced to pass it through reconciliation.

When we bring "Infrastructure Sweeping, Part 2" to the floor, Joe Manchin will say, "I already voted for infrastructure! Why should I vote on a second bill on the same subject, to spend even more money!"

Podesta is totally on the money in his assessment.

Lovie777

(12,278 posts)
4. The republicans that are in office(some of them) . .
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:33 PM
May 2021

are stone cold nuts. . .absolutely insane and would try and overturn the government again.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
8. This bill qualifies to pass under budget reconciliation with 50 votes.
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:52 PM
May 2021

We only have 50 Senators and two are insisting on working with the other side. The idea is to try good faith negotiation to persuade the two Dem holdouts to vote for reconciliation when the Rs who are negotiating now, make it clear they aren't acting in good faith and will vote no on anything, as McConnell insists. Biden has set a deadline for next month.

If anyone knows this game, it's President Biden.

Elessar Zappa

(14,004 posts)
16. I think those two
Fri May 14, 2021, 04:37 PM
May 2021

will eventually sign on to some bill. It will likely be much reduced but I think we’ll get something.

Bev54

(10,053 posts)
9. I do think that is what Biden is doing
Fri May 14, 2021, 03:52 PM
May 2021

and a lot of it I think is for the benefit of Manchin. I am hoping that when Biden proves to him that he has made the effort and republicans are refusing to play, then he will come around. My biggest concern is if we lose a dem senator in a republican state.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
11. I voted for Joe to handle stuff.
Fri May 14, 2021, 04:00 PM
May 2021

He knows more politics than anyone
He knows McMoscow. He knows Linnseed.
He knows Puttie pie. He knows Puttie pie’s big orange anus. More than any of us.
So until Joe or Kamala do something that I know something about and I have an opinion for, I will stick with Joe.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
12. We have a 50 50 Senate. We have two Senators who won't vote for a bill unless it is bipartisan...
Fri May 14, 2021, 04:10 PM
May 2021

Manchi and Sinema...now what exactly should Joe and Democratic leaders do...always blame the Democratic Party. Podesta as usual has a breathless complaint and no solutions...that is what is wrong with some of these left organizations...they demand and demand the impossible and offer few solutions. There is going to be some sort of compromise or we get nothing and we may get nothing anyway. Try electing more Democrats and everyone needs to show up at the polls because this election coming up is as important as any presidential election. We lose the House and we get nothing in terms of policy. In the meantime perhaps some could refrain from attacking Pres. Biden and Democratic leaders.

Nululu

(842 posts)
15. Swap them for Collins and Murkowski
Fri May 14, 2021, 04:35 PM
May 2021

They'll do what they can to get it done but they can't allow 2 democrats to hold it up.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
17. Biden campaigned on bipartisanship.
Fri May 14, 2021, 04:41 PM
May 2021

For him to not consult with, or at least try to work with republiCANTS, would mean Joe lied to the country. Lies and deceit are THE OTHER GUY'S bailiwick, not Biden's.
I suggest far-left progressives calm down a bit, and see what transpires. Joe hasn't disappointed so far, and I don't think he will here either.

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