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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Sun May 16, 2021, 09:15 AM May 2021

I thought the cdc was to provide best recommendations for the community

not individual guidance based on an honor system.

I am watching Walensky on CNN right now and she does not inspire confidence in this new guidance. Cannot answer some basic questions as to the real world consequences of this recommendation. Be happy vaccinated people. You all good. Yep that’s it.

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I thought the cdc was to provide best recommendations for the community (Original Post) boston bean May 2021 OP
DURec leftstreet May 2021 #1
I think the CDC's new guidance will create more confusion. They are playing the odds for JohnSJ May 2021 #2
Fauci also said last March that it was unnecessary to wear masks... HUAJIAO May 2021 #13
Are you saying March 2 months ago, or March, 2020? JohnSJ May 2021 #14
2020. HUAJIAO May 2021 #15
Thanks for the clarification JohnSJ May 2021 #16
K&R, nursing unions condemn CDC recommendations cause they have to put up with maskholes uponit7771 May 2021 #3
She was equally non assuring dweller May 2021 #4
I wish they would admit this is a test run. TraceNC May 2021 #5
The timing of the test run should have been based in science, as to the community risk though - Ms. Toad May 2021 #9
That's the gist of my last sentence. TraceNC May 2021 #17
I was agreeing with you. n/t Ms. Toad May 2021 #20
And I was agreeing with you! Just thought maybe TraceNC May 2021 #21
+1, KCMO just lifted mask mandate .... Damn uponit7771 May 2021 #18
That is precisely the point I've been making. N/t Ms. Toad May 2021 #6
Dr Walensky should be shown the door. CentralMass May 2021 #7
I am not impressed. boston bean May 2021 #8
Biden's senior Covid advisor Andy Slavitt decided to leave his position early CentralMass May 2021 #10
Agreed, she should step down MisterNiceKitty May 2021 #11
Happy to be your 10th rec. Treefrog May 2021 #12
You don't have any special insight. BannonsLiver May 2021 #19

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
1. DURec
Sun May 16, 2021, 10:39 AM
May 2021

Throughout the entire pandemic, the CDC's official statements have been scrutinized for undue political and economic pressure. I see no reason to stop questioning.

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
2. I think the CDC's new guidance will create more confusion. They are playing the odds for
Sun May 16, 2021, 10:42 AM
May 2021

political considerations I think.

I think they are premature with their "guidelines" that no masks are necessary for those who are fully vaccinated.

Those guidelines will be confusing to many, and it is an unecessary risk when only 35% of the U.S. population has been fully vaccinated.

That they could not wait a couple more months makes me think this was motivated more by politics.

The recommendation states:

"The CDC’s updated guidance advises vaccinated people that they can drop the masks in all outdoor and indoor settings, with the exception of hospitals, clinics, nursing homes, homeless shelters, prisons and jails, and planes, trains, and any other form of public transportation. But citizens are still subject to local masking requirements. Governors in about half of U.S. states had already lifted mask mandates. More are expected to expire at the end of this month."

www.statnews.com/2021/05/16/mask-mandates-might-be-going-away-but-dont-ditch-yours-just-yet/

I believe this will add to confusion, and the fact that they are still recommending it in certain settings, represents an inconsistency that tells me they have some reservations.

What they have essentially done is leave it up to the public, and businesses to determine the rules, and washed their hands of the situation.

The CDC has already lost a lot of credibility from the beginning of the pandemic when they strongly told people to absolutely NOT wear masks. That is when I knew something was very wrong, and started to wear masks

God forbid, if cases start to increase, and variants breakthrough the vaccine's protection, we will be in a very bad place I fear.

The odds may be with us though since we are moving into warmer weather, and hopefully that will provide the time needed to get more people vaccinated, but I personally think it is an unecessary risk.

JohnSJ

(92,219 posts)
14. Are you saying March 2 months ago, or March, 2020?
Sun May 16, 2021, 12:44 PM
May 2021

Regardless, when the pandemic started a lot of people gave mixed messages, some because there was a mask shortage of N95 and KN95 masks, and others because they didn’t know, or for political reasons

dweller

(23,641 posts)
4. She was equally non assuring
Sun May 16, 2021, 11:08 AM
May 2021

on chuck toad this morning, I was only 1/2 listening making coffee, but it sounded like she’d been called out by others and was hedging on the mask mandate

imo

✌🏻

TraceNC

(254 posts)
5. I wish they would admit this is a test run.
Sun May 16, 2021, 11:11 AM
May 2021

Nobody knows for sure how this move will play out. We were going to have to try this at some point, and it was always going to be a test run. Nothing wrong with that; no other way to do it. They just caused confusion because we were told that moves like this would occur when we reached (or at least got close to) herd immunity, but that seems to have disappeared from the equation.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
9. The timing of the test run should have been based in science, as to the community risk though -
Sun May 16, 2021, 11:20 AM
May 2021

Not exclusively on the risk to the third of us who have been vaccinated, community be damned.

TraceNC

(254 posts)
21. And I was agreeing with you! Just thought maybe
Sun May 16, 2021, 05:18 PM
May 2021

I wasn’t clear in what I said in that previous post. Apologies.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
12. Happy to be your 10th rec.
Sun May 16, 2021, 11:48 AM
May 2021

I liked her in the beginning, now not so much. She always seems to have this happy smile on her face, no matter what facet of the pandemic is being discussed. It’s jarring.

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