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WHITT

(2,868 posts)
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:06 PM May 2021

Amnesty International Calls For ICC Investigation

Amnesty International Calls for ICC Probe

"We are deeply concerned over the mounting death toll in Gaza with 174 killed including 74 children. The International Criminal Court (ICC) must investigate Israel's attack on al-Shati refugee camp on Saturday that killed 2 women and 8 children. Direct attacks on civilians are war crimes," the rights' advocacy group Amnesty International said.

"The Israeli attack on al-Jalaa building destroying homes and Aljazeera and AP offices must also be investigated as a war crime. The strike fits a pattern of Israel’s collective punishment of the Palestinian population," it added.


The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) called on Sunday for an immediate halt to what it described as Israel's barbaric attacks on Gaza and blamed "systematic crimes" against the Palestinians for hostilities now in their seventh day.

Arab foreign ministers have urged the International Criminal Court to proceed with an investigation into Israel’s possible war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Palestinians.

They strongly condemned what they call Israel's crimes against Muslim worshippers at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the latest court orders to evict families of Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood.

The ministers urged the UN Security Council to take action in order to stop the “Israeli aggression” and provide “international protection” to the Palestinian people.

The ministers met virtually on Tuesday to discuss the latest escalation of violence in the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound and the Gaza Strip. In a statement after the meeting, they called for the ICC to mobilise resources for such an investigation.


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Amnesty International Calls For ICC Investigation (Original Post) WHITT May 2021 OP
"Direct attacks on civilians are war crimes" EX500rider May 2021 #1
Once Again WHITT May 2021 #2
"Counter-attacking" by firing rockets at random civilians in other cities? EX500rider May 2021 #3
Nope WHITT May 2021 #4
Thank you,WHITT PhylliPretzel May 2021 #9
"lifting the siege of Gaza" EX500rider May 2021 #12
"Unguided rockets CANNOT POSSIBLY be a "direct attack on civilians" " EX500rider May 2021 #10
Ah WHITT May 2021 #13
Wow, lots you got wrong there... EX500rider May 2021 #14
I Got Nothing Wrong WHITT May 2021 #15
lol.....dig deeper! EX500rider May 2021 #16
Just Keep Telling Yourself That WHITT May 2021 #18
As to your first point - Ms. Toad May 2021 #17
will they investigate the Hamas rocket attacks? WarGamer May 2021 #5
For What? WHITT May 2021 #6
if the Israeli reaction is worth investigating... how about the cause of it all? WarGamer May 2021 #7
We Already Know The Cause WHITT May 2021 #8
Thank you Bettie May 2021 #11

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
1. "Direct attacks on civilians are war crimes"
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:12 PM
May 2021

And crickets about Hama's firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities?

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
2. Once Again
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:19 PM
May 2021

Hamas is counter-attacking. The fascist Likud attacked Palestinians at the
Al-Aqsa complex during prayer services.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
3. "Counter-attacking" by firing rockets at random civilians in other cities?
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:22 PM
May 2021

Including Israeli Arabs?
Textbook terrorism & war crime more like it.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
4. Nope
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:33 PM
May 2021

Unguided rockets CANNOT POSSIBLY be a "direct attack on civilians".

Once again, by international treaty, fighting back against those that have you under Illegal Military Occupation is NOT "terrorism", no matter how many times the fascist Likud falsely claims it is terrorism.

PhylliPretzel

(140 posts)
9. Thank you,WHITT
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:02 PM
May 2021

for speaking the truth regarding the legality of using violence to counter occupation (no matter who much we peaceniks abhor violence.) Zionists could prevent Hamas' rockets by lifting the siege of Gaza and meeting their international responsibilities of caring for their occupied peoples.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
12. "lifting the siege of Gaza"
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:21 PM
May 2021

Doesn't Gaza share a border with Eygpt also?
I wonder while they keep it closed a lot...I guess they frown on terror groups smuggling weapons into the Sinai.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
10. "Unguided rockets CANNOT POSSIBLY be a "direct attack on civilians" "
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:18 PM
May 2021

When they are aimed at cities they most certainly are.

Or is it just some type of Hama's 4th of July festival?

And killing of random civilians is certainly terrorism.

And "fighting back against those that have you under Illegal Military Occupation" requires you strike at military targets, not civilian.
And Gaza is under no occupation.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
13. Ah
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:18 PM
May 2021
When they are aimed at cities they most certainly are.

Care to explain how unguided rockets are "aimed"?


And killing of random civilians is certainly terrorism.

According to the 'Geneva Declaration on Terrorism', which the U.S. is a signatory to, fighting back against Illegal Military Occupation is most definitely NOT "terrorism", no matter how many times the fascist Likud lies and claims otherwise.


And "fighting back against those that have you under Illegal Military Occupation" requires you strike at military targets

False.


And Gaza is under no occupation.

Of course it's under Illegal Military Occupation. Don't read many UN resolutions, eh?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
14. Wow, lots you got wrong there...
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:14 PM
May 2021

Unguided missiles can be aimed by adjusting the angle and direction of fire. Fire at X elevation at X compass point and it is aimed.

Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 so it is under no kind of occupation. Hama's runs the whole place and they have a border with Eygpt also so Israel does not have them "blockaded" or "surrounded" either.

And even if it was, "fighting back against Illegal Military Occupation" does not evolve killing random civilians as they are not a military target.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
15. I Got Nothing Wrong
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:29 PM
May 2021
Unguided missiles can be aimed by adjusting the angle and direction of fire. Fire at X elevation at X compass point and it is aimed.

Sorry, unguided rockets cannot be "aimed" to "directly target civilians"


Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005 so it is under no kind of occupation.

Wow, are you out of touch.

The IDF pulled out, but they barricaded the borders, militarized the checkpoints, blockaded the sea, control the Palestinian airspace, and control all the utilities and water & sewer services.

They turned Gaza into the largest outdoor prison on the planet.

It's STILL Illegal Military Occupation.


And even if it was, "fighting back against Illegal Military Occupation" does not evolve killing random civilians as they are not a military target.

Already debunked.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)
17. As to your first point -
Sun May 16, 2021, 08:44 PM
May 2021

my friends in Israel would beg to differ.

So does Slate:

How do you aim a rocket, anyway?

With a firing table. In military terms, a “rocket” refers to an unguided, self-propelled weapon. Once the Hezbollah militants have picked a target in Israel—say, the city of Haifa—all they have to do is point the rocket in the right direction, set the firing tube at the appropriate angle off the ground, and let ‘er rip. They can figure out the direction with a computer and a compass. But to get the angle, they need to check the distance to the target against published data for the particular make of rocket they’re using. Then they can improve the accuracy of the attack by correcting the launch angle for temperature, altitude, and wind.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2006/07/how-do-you-aim-a-rocket.html

Unguided merely means it is not actively altering course in real time to make sure it hits a particular target. And the precision with which it hits its target is certainly lower than with that of a guided missle. But it does not mean it is not/cannot directly target civilians.

Not that I think it is much better to randomly fire thousands of rockets into a space filled with civillians than to target them directly.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
8. We Already Know The Cause
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:50 PM
May 2021

The fascist Likud ordered commandos to storm into the Al-Aqsa complex, one of the world's holiest structures located in Jerusalem's Old City, during a prayer service. They threw stun grenades and fired rounds at Palestinians engaged in prayer. This was a blatant attempt to intentionally instigate a response in order to disrupt the forming of an alternative Israeli government, not to mention an obvious war crime.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
11. Thank you
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:19 PM
May 2021

now I don't have to type the whole thing out and you put it very clearly.

The current conflict was instigated by Netanyahu, in order to provoke a response that would allow him to kill some people and stir up violence in order to ensure that there was no government formed. It also took attention off of his many criminal acts by using his favorite scapegoat: the human beings living in an open air prison camp.

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