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Small percentage of fully vaccinated still get covid (Original Post) Dreampuff May 2021 OP
That runs counter to our DU expert panel ruling BannonsLiver May 2021 #1
Not only do I listen to the experts, I watch what is up. A solid 5 months of vacc LizBeth May 2021 #3
Good call BannonsLiver May 2021 #5
+1 LizBeth May 2021 #7
Post a link to a post where someone said they're not effective at all. Nt USALiberal May 2021 #13
Still trying? Nt beaglelover May 2021 #17
How about not making straw-man accusations that you know Ms. Toad May 2021 #27
So, it has always been known.... FarPoint May 2021 #2
Why is this news? The vaccine prevents serious illness and death. Dream Girl May 2021 #4
if you can still get it, you can spread it Skittles May 2021 #10
That's why masks were initially required.. Dream Girl May 2021 #11
no shit Skittles May 2021 #12
Pass BGBD May 2021 #16
jeez Skittles May 2021 #19
Science BGBD May 2021 #22
LOLOL Skittles May 2021 #23
That's why I got a vaccination BGBD May 2021 #26
Wrong. Dr. F said today fully vaccinated people cannot beaglelover May 2021 #18
A girl in one of my online groups is vaccinated and has Covid. The health department told her to liberal_mama May 2021 #33
Actually unlikely. One of the excellent studies that led to the recent recommendations GulfCoast66 May 2021 #25
have you heard of variants? Skittles May 2021 #30
Not likely according to Dr Fauci today on FTN madville May 2021 #29
The article is a month old then 77 million fully vaxxed with 400 hospitalized with covid. mucifer May 2021 #6
. dalton99a May 2021 #8
So... BGBD May 2021 #20
Of course! The vaccines are not 100% effective. Jeebo May 2021 #9
Why is this being posted? It is old news. LiberalFighter May 2021 #14
Even though the date is clearly in the link, Dreampuff May 2021 #31
I wonder if that percentage might increase Crunchy Frog May 2021 #15
I dont see any evidence of BGBD May 2021 #21
I think we'll probably be seeing more data emerge in the next few months. Crunchy Frog May 2021 #24
This is more than a month old. Ms. Toad May 2021 #28
Those are really good numbers. nt RegularJam May 2021 #32

BannonsLiver

(16,395 posts)
1. That runs counter to our DU expert panel ruling
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:51 PM
May 2021

Which seems to be, based on what I’ve read in the anti CDC threads, that the vaccine is not the least bit effective.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. Not only do I listen to the experts, I watch what is up. A solid 5 months of vacc
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:54 PM
May 2021

tells me I can believe them telling me my load will be light, good to hear that light load makes it hard to give to others so I will not kill, and covers variants. Me and mine a vacc'ed and th9ose refusing the opportunity to be vacc'ed are on their own.

BannonsLiver

(16,395 posts)
5. Good call
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:56 PM
May 2021

Stick with verified experts rather than people around here trying to play “the big role” like they have some special insight.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
27. How about not making straw-man accusations that you know
Sun May 16, 2021, 09:30 PM
May 2021

have nothing to do with reality.

I have not read a single person who disagrees with the CDC on this issue (1st strawman: anti CDC) who has even come close to suggesting that "the vaccine is not the least bit effective" (2nd strawman)

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
2. So, it has always been known....
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:54 PM
May 2021

The vaccine is not a " shield"...It is a vaccine that programs the immune system to attack the invading covid-19 virus and destroy it.... I realize that also that the viral load is stifled by said immune response and is less likely to reach a level where infection to others will happen...This all depends upon the vaccinated individuals immune response capabilities...

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
22. Science
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:18 PM
May 2021

You seem to think I should not listen to the science and do something that makes you feel better.

You are the one who thinks it's all about YOU.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
33. A girl in one of my online groups is vaccinated and has Covid. The health department told her to
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:35 PM
May 2021

quarantine for 14 days. I was surprised. If an infected fully vaccinated person cannot spread Covid, it is really necessary for them to miss work for 2 weeks and stay home?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. Actually unlikely. One of the excellent studies that led to the recent recommendations
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:43 PM
May 2021

Was of virus load in breakthrough cases. It is so small that they are not considered a risk to spread the virus.

The CDC actually thought of this. You know, like smart scientist do.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
30. have you heard of variants?
Mon May 17, 2021, 03:34 AM
May 2021

limited studies so far, changes as we go along, you know, because it is a pandemic

madville

(7,412 posts)
29. Not likely according to Dr Fauci today on FTN
Sun May 16, 2021, 10:33 PM
May 2021

DR. FAUCI: Good question, JOHN. And what the- what the issue is, is that the level of virus in your nasal pharynx, which is correlated with whether or not you were going to transmit it to someone else, is considerably lower. So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic, and the level of virus is so low, it makes it extremely unlikely, not impossible, but very, very low likelihood that they are going to transmit it.

mucifer

(23,548 posts)
6. The article is a month old then 77 million fully vaxxed with 400 hospitalized with covid.
Sun May 16, 2021, 02:59 PM
May 2021

I'm curious what the numbers are now.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
20. So...
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:13 PM
May 2021

About 1,000 people who.were vaccinated later became sick enough with covod to need hospitalization...including a little over 200 who died from it. That's out of 115 million fully vaccinated.

So the odds of a serious breakthrough infection are about 1 in 100,000. And a death being 1 in 500,000. Numbers could be skewed a bit in either direction since we could assume that early vaxxers are also more likely to engage in other mitigation efforts or that early vaxxers are the most vulnerable to seriois infection.

Jeebo

(2,025 posts)
9. Of course! The vaccines are not 100% effective.
Sun May 16, 2021, 03:18 PM
May 2021

I think Pfizer and Moderna claim about 94% effective. Not 100%. That's why I don't understand why so many people seem to be surprised when somebody who has been fully vaccinated gets Covid. Of course a few people will still get it. Getting your shots still cuts way down on your chances of getting sick. Get your shots, y'all. Do your part to help make this damn plague go away.

-- Ron

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
31. Even though the date is clearly in the link,
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:20 PM
May 2021

It wasn't something I paid attention to while I was reading the story. I'm sure we are all aware that the vaccine is not 100% effective and I bumped into an article about it and wanted to share it here. My mistake.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
15. I wonder if that percentage might increase
Sun May 16, 2021, 06:56 PM
May 2021

when everyone is going maskless, with lots of virus still circulating. If you're exposed to more virus are you more likely to get a breakthrough infection?

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
21. I dont see any evidence of
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:16 PM
May 2021

A real difference in infection trajectory between states with mask mandates and those who dropped them over past few months.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
24. I think we'll probably be seeing more data emerge in the next few months.
Sun May 16, 2021, 07:29 PM
May 2021

Even in places with no mask mandates, the type of people who tend to get vaccinated are also the type who are more likely to follow masking and social distancing guidelines.

I'm taking a wait and see approach.

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