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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon May 17, 2021, 04:52 PM May 2021

Harry Littman on Dateline White House discussing the Greenberg Plea Deal. He said "just look at....

Last edited Mon May 17, 2021, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)

....page 30 and beyond to see how serious all of this is for Gaetz and others" (not an exact quote, a paraphrase)

Here's a link to the document. It is amazingly detailed and one can't help thinking one of the people they're talking about is Gaetz. It actually begins on page 28.

If true, Gaetz is in MORE than just serious trouble.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/joel-greenberg-plea-agreement/417cd1c915268cf1/full.pdf

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Harry Littman on Dateline White House discussing the Greenberg Plea Deal. He said "just look at.... (Original Post) George II May 2021 OP
I want to know who else? ebbie15644 May 2021 #1
I really really hope they take gaetz down!! PortTack May 2021 #2
He is screwn. gibraltar72 May 2021 #3
LISTEN UP, QANON Skittles May 2021 #4
I think last paragraph on page 9 might be more important Midnightwalk May 2021 #5
It won't only be Gaetz in trouble malaise May 2021 #6
Yes indeed. I would give up my left testicle if DeSantis is in the middle of this*. George II May 2021 #7
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise May 2021 #8
I read all the nearly a hundred pages of the indictment. Grasswire2 May 2021 #9
I read most of it from page 28 on. The sexual part was just a sideline for him, he indeed.... George II May 2021 #10
I didn't know about Gaetz and the DMV. Grasswire2 May 2021 #11
It was actually the Seminole Tax office, which is where they issue replacement licenses... George II May 2021 #12

PortTack

(32,771 posts)
2. I really really hope they take gaetz down!!
Mon May 17, 2021, 05:43 PM
May 2021

I have my doubts looking at other gqp critters that slid by!!

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
5. I think last paragraph on page 9 might be more important
Mon May 17, 2021, 07:59 PM
May 2021

Maybe Gaetz is directly implicated in count 1 if it’s the same person. I think the requirement to cooperate in other matters is the real danger to others and is in the last paragraph on page 9.

Cooperation-SubstantialAssistancetobeConsidered
Defendant agrees to cooperate fully with the United States in the
investigation and prosecution of other persons, and to testify, subject to a prosecution
for perjury or making a false statement, fully and truthfully before any federal court proceeding or federal grandjury in connection with the charges in this case and other matters, such cooperation to further include a full and complete disclosure of all relevant information , including production of any and all books, papers , documents , and other objects in defendant's possession or control, and to be reasonably available for interviews which the United States may require.


Apologies if I messed up that paste. It needed some formatting help.

Page 30 on has the details for Greenberg’s charges and I only saw two people mentioned semi-directly. Recruiter Conspirator and SBA employee.

I think it likely he has other knowledge but the danger to those people is the requirement to cooperate.

Not a lawyer and just my opinion.

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Yes indeed. I would give up my left testicle if DeSantis is in the middle of this*.
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:39 PM
May 2021

*I'm 73 years old, they don't do much anymore anyway! Sorry for the graphic!!!!!!!!!!

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
9. I read all the nearly a hundred pages of the indictment.
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:48 PM
May 2021

Greenberg is a conniving thief and cheat. Aside from the sexual exploitation. Pure, hard, criminal.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. I read most of it from page 28 on. The sexual part was just a sideline for him, he indeed....
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:30 PM
May 2021

...is a hardened criminal. The only thing missing in his portfolio is putting out hits on his enemies.

I don't know if sentence is negotiated ahead of time in plea bargains, but if not the judge should throw the book at him.

To think Gaetz is close buddies with him. I read into the "anonymous" part of it is that when he was making those phony licenses with "someone else", it has to be Gaetz. Don't forget they have the two of them on video going into the DMV on SATURDAY when they were closed. With all those fake licenses, what else would they be doing there on Saturday?

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. It was actually the Seminole Tax office, which is where they issue replacement licenses...
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:52 PM
May 2021

If you read through the plea deal, you'll see that Greenberg was familiar with that basket of old or replaced licenses.

This alone should send Gaetz away for awhile, and he's toast as a Congressman.

Joel Greenberg, Matt Gaetz visited closed Seminole tax office together on weekend, source says

Joel Greenberg and U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz on at least one occasion several years ago were recorded together entering the Seminole County Tax Collector’s Office when it was closed on a weekend night, according to a person familiar with office operations who saw the videotape.

The person said the footage showed Greenberg and Gaetz walking into the Tax Collector’s Lake Mary office on Primera Drive. Greenberg was seen going through baskets where driver’s licenses, turned in by residents for disposal, were stored and later went into a back room, the person said.

CNN reported Thursday night the visit was revealed to federal authorities investigating Greenberg in January 2020. Gaetz has since become a target of investigators, who are probing whether an alleged relationship with a 17-year-old girl violated sex trafficking laws, according to reports.

Information about the weekend office visit was shared with the Orlando Sentinel before news broke this week about the Gaetz investigation.


https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-joel-greenberg-matt-gaetz-closed-office-weekend-20210402-y5xcsaecibaa3eysrljvwjp3cm-story.html
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