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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon May 17, 2021, 06:33 PM May 2021

U.S. Airlines May Start Weighing Passengers At The Gate

U.S. airlines may need to start weighing passengers in order to comply with FAA rules. For safety reasons, carriers need to calculate an aircraft’s weight and balance, and it has to be within allowable limits for the plane. Americans are getting fatter, and the federal government wants airlines to find out how much fatter their passengers have gotten, at least for smaller aircraft.

The FAA says that surveys should be done at airports representing at least 15% of an airline’s daily departures in the secure area of the airport (to ensure that connecting passengers are included) and should select passengers at random. This is voluntary and passengers have to be allowed to opt out.

Not only might we start seeing this soon, but it could become a regular occurrence, since “the FAA recommends operators accomplish such a review every 36 calendar-months.” Fortunately when airlines stick scales at boarding gates for this, the FAA notes, the scale’s “readout should remain hidden from public view” to protect passenger privacy.

https://viewfromthewing.com/u-s-airlines-may-start-weighing-passengers-at-the-gate/

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U.S. Airlines May Start Weighing Passengers At The Gate (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2021 OP
Just put one of these in the jetway. Klaralven May 2021 #1
Your going to need a bigger one for Hartsfield nt cinematicdiversions May 2021 #6
Charging by the pound is next. jalan48 May 2021 #2
why don't they just guess, then add 25 pounds Skittles May 2021 #3
They could get some carnival guys out of retirement Skittles. rzemanfl May 2021 #4
heh Skittles May 2021 #5
Now that I am immunized I am trying work off the weight I gained while I was stuck rzemanfl May 2021 #7
mine has stayed the same Skittles May 2021 #12
I am swimming again. I have a bad knee and walking more than a couple of miles pains me. rzemanfl May 2021 #13
I do most of my walking in the middle of the night Skittles May 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author rzemanfl May 2021 #15
Sorry I stuttered. n/t rzemanfl May 2021 #16
It happens every time I go to Costa Rico obamanut2012 May 2021 #8
Glad I'm not Bullfeathers May 2021 #27
Already done for small planes BannonsLiver May 2021 #9
Fine, I'll do it. Just don't tell me. I don't want to know. Maru Kitteh May 2021 #10
If you watch and old enough movie dsc May 2021 #11
I'd be fucked. Initech May 2021 #14
Been there, done that. greatauntoftriplets May 2021 #17
I remember LIAT DFW May 2021 #20
They're still flying. greatauntoftriplets May 2021 #21
Maybe at least measure their behind and see if it fits. alphafemale May 2021 #19
They asked me my weight for space a military plane years ago. 😳 nt helpisontheway May 2021 #22
Dang! Lemon Lyman May 2021 #23
Airlines: "Hey America, put down the goddamn quarter pounders already" pecosbob May 2021 #24
Reposting: Tui plane in 'serious incident' after every 'Miss' on board was assigned child's weight muriel_volestrangler May 2021 #25
There was a "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode where nobody flying on a private betsuni May 2021 #26
 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
1. Just put one of these in the jetway.
Mon May 17, 2021, 06:58 PM
May 2021

Kinda goes with the herd immunity theme.

PEC Scales Small to Medium Animal Scale/Digital Livestock Weighing Equipment, Capacity 2000 x 0.2 lb for Calf, Sheep, Goat, Hog, Pig, etc.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
5. heh
Mon May 17, 2021, 07:25 PM
May 2021

I am notoriously bad at estimating age and weight

it shocks me how many people think I weigh, like, 100 pounds when I am usually 125

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
7. Now that I am immunized I am trying work off the weight I gained while I was stuck
Mon May 17, 2021, 07:30 PM
May 2021

at home watching my hair grow down to my shoulders.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
13. I am swimming again. I have a bad knee and walking more than a couple of miles pains me.
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:00 PM
May 2021

Soon it will be too hot here to take walks except early or late in the day.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
18. I do most of my walking in the middle of the night
Mon May 17, 2021, 09:58 PM
May 2021

night shift worker

I have also been known to swim across lakes at midnight (fewer boats)

Response to Skittles (Reply #12)

dsc

(52,162 posts)
11. If you watch and old enough movie
Mon May 17, 2021, 07:47 PM
May 2021

or one set in an early enough era, this happened all the time. I don't know when weighing stopped (my guess from movies would be somewhere in the 1940's or so) but this was done. I think allowing people to opt out will so alter the results as to render them useless.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
17. Been there, done that.
Mon May 17, 2021, 08:23 PM
May 2021

I used to fly on LIAT (Leeward Islands Air Transport) a few times a year. Their planes were Havilland Herons, and we had to be weighed before seats could be assigned to balance the plane.

Once I went back to the plane because my luggage had been left in San Juan to make certain that it wasn't still onboard. The pilot was drinking a Heineken before taking off again.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
19. Maybe at least measure their behind and see if it fits.
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:18 AM
May 2021

I am done with people saying they are uncomfortable and raising the armrest and spilling onto me.

If you don't fit. buy the second seat.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
25. Reposting: Tui plane in 'serious incident' after every 'Miss' on board was assigned child's weight
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:50 AM
May 2021
The departure from Birmingham airport to Majorca with 187 passengers on board was described as a “serious incident” by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB).

An update to the airline’s reservation system while its planes were grounded due to the coronavirus pandemic led to 38 passengers on the flight being allocated a child’s “standard weight” of 35kg as opposed to the adult figure of 69kg.

This caused the load sheet – produced for the captain to calculate what inputs are needed for take-off – to state that the Boeing 737 was more than 1,200kg lighter than it actually was.

Investigators described the glitch as “a simple flaw” in an IT system. It was programmed in an unnamed foreign country where the title “Miss” is used for a child and “Ms” for an adult female.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/tui-plane-serious-incident-every-miss-on-board-child-weight-birmingham-majorca

betsuni

(25,536 posts)
26. There was a "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode where nobody flying on a private
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:58 AM
May 2021

plane with Larry David would admit their weight so he had to guess and the plane was overweight, had to make an unscheduled stop.

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