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Bibi Just Started A War Because Of Politics - Just Say It (Original Post) DanieRains May 2021 OP
Has SoS Blinken gotten the proof of Hamas presence in the building that housed AlJazeera yet? roamer65 May 2021 #1
Per this report, BlueMTexpat May 2021 #6
a clever dodge stopdiggin May 2021 #7
It's clear. The whole thing is a sham. It will blow up in BooBoo's face. nt Progressive Jones May 2021 #2
Don't call it "started a war" -- just call it "murdered Palestinians" RockRaven May 2021 #3
this. Merlot May 2021 #4
THIS malaise May 2021 #9
Exactly. NH Ethylene May 2021 #10
Yes Bibi is benefiting politically from this conflict. He was on the verge of losing the power totodeinhere May 2021 #5
there had been some run up in unrest, prior to actual clash of arms stopdiggin May 2021 #8
Israel has reportedly been assembling their target list for two years Amishman May 2021 #11
Of course Israel has ben making military preparations. totodeinhere May 2021 #12
Wouldn't disagree with any of that stopdiggin May 2021 #13

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
1. Has SoS Blinken gotten the proof of Hamas presence in the building that housed AlJazeera yet?
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:59 AM
May 2021

Chirp...chirp...chirp...

BlueMTexpat

(15,374 posts)
6. Per this report,
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:19 AM
May 2021

he has NOT. https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/blinken-evidence-ap-gaza-building-strike-77734636

...
Blinken said he personally has not seen any Israeli evidence of Hamas operating in the building and has asked Israel for justification for the strike.

“Shortly after the strike we did request additional details regarding the justification for it,” Blinken said from Copenhagen, Denmark. He declined to discuss specific intelligence, saying he “will leave it to others to characterize if any information has been shared and our assessment that information.”

But he said, “I have not seen any information provided.”
...

stopdiggin

(11,383 posts)
7. a clever dodge
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:45 AM
May 2021

and a bit of fancy footwork. To this point (and that may be changing over the past 12-24 hours) Biden has not really wanted to wade into this. (and I can't say as I blame him)

RockRaven

(15,018 posts)
3. Don't call it "started a war" -- just call it "murdered Palestinians"
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:12 AM
May 2021

The asymmetry is so massive that calling it a "war" is practically carrying water for Bibi by false equivalency.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
5. Yes Bibi is benefiting politically from this conflict. He was on the verge of losing the power
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:11 AM
May 2021

that he has held for so long, but now he has got a reprieve because of this conflict. But I'm not sure if it is accurate to say that Bibi started it. Didn't Hamas start firing missiles at innocent Israeli citizens before the IDF started bombing Gaza? Didn't the IDF attack in response to missiles being fired at Israeli territory?

stopdiggin

(11,383 posts)
8. there had been some run up in unrest, prior to actual clash of arms
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:58 AM
May 2021

provocation (mostly in Jerusalem?) on both parts? I think you're right in questioning (or posing the question) that Netanyahu actually "started" this latest exchange.

(on the other hand, a record of belligerent and bellicose behavior on the part of his government(s) is pretty well established history)

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
11. Israel has reportedly been assembling their target list for two years
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:57 AM
May 2021

Waiting for a large enough rocket attack to act as cover for such a harsh reprisal.

My guess is the political benefit is just a bonus for him. They've been planning this for a long time

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
12. Of course Israel has ben making military preparations.
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:02 PM
May 2021

They would be fools not too. They live in a very dangerous neighborhood. And what about Hamas. They have also been making preparations. Ever since the last conflagration in 2014 Hamas has been expanding their network of tunnels and stockpiling missiles and other arms.

stopdiggin

(11,383 posts)
13. Wouldn't disagree with any of that
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:33 PM
May 2021

but the question I was responding to was "Did Bibi start this?" or "who struck first?"
(which is admittedly a simplification on the face of it)
Taking full and strategic advantage of a 'provocation' (perhaps even providing one?) is a recognized and time honored tradition.

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