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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums35 Republicans Defy Kevin McCarthy And Join Democrats To Pass 1/6 Commission Bill
The final vote was 252-175 in favor of creating the commission.
Sadly those House Republicans were offset by the rest of their colleagues who voted for a cover-up and against finding out the whole story of the attack on the Capitol.
The vast majority of House Republicans were cowards who chose to protect Trumps Big Lie and the currently under criminal investigation former president at the expense of the truth and health of US democracy.
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/05/19/house-passes-1-6-commission-bill.html
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to investigate Jan 6. The Pubs will appoint agents to impede and suppress the process and findings and to make continual public statements over the next year to feed confusion and distrust into open mouths.
Seriously, I haven't read about this. Is it more complex than that?
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)clowns like Jordan, Gohmert, Biggs etc bringing the tone down to the gutter. All the appearance of Bipartisanship, god help us !
On the other side though, when the current effort fails, let's confine Bipartisanship to the trash can. Throw out the agreed deal, or most of it, and as has been suggested, invite Cheney, Kizinger, Rigglemann and perhaps Todd Whitman to this Commission. With two sitting GOP Congressmen to take part, along with other former none Trumper GOP people, it will give the cloak of Bipartisanship but in reality you'll have 4 people especially wanting to stick the boot into Trump and the Republican cowards.
Thinking about it, McConnell would be stupid to kill the current initiative, taking control out of their hands.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)bipartisan principles of democracy that have zero chance of working in application. That's been the situation for more than a decade now since the Pubs have degraded into the dysfunctional, corrupt mess that they are.
The difference this year is that they don't control the presidency, the senate, or the house and can't block all our legislation. We do. Barely, but we do. If they want anything passed, they have to give.
As for the commission, 35 crossing the aisle isn't a lot, but it's not chopped liver either. Seriously, I don't know how picking the panel will work on the right, but that group reportedly has leaders, so maybe a couple of them might end up on it...?
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)process play out so she can then ramp it up without having the likes of Jordan etc interfering. Fingers crossed on that one !
My constant fear is that a Senate Dem will fall gravely ill or worse, and then nothing gets passed, most especially S1. Time is not in great supply unfortunately.
I agree 35 is a significant number but if it passed in the Senate, you just know McCarthy would be picking Jordan, Nunes, Gohmert etc. Cheney would not be allowed anywhere near it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No need for crossed fingers.
You know, like many others former speaker John Boehner expresses real admiration for Pelosi's ferocious competence at her job, "among" the best he'd ever seen, but like others he's also complained she should have tried harder to build better relationships across the aisle. (Yeah, we know how that works.) The GOP went bad a long time ago. Pelosi's very strongly liberal, and her attitude has always famously been "politics as war."
She's not fooled by them, and when she said she's never surprised by them she was telling the simple truth.
"The one thing that I understood about Nancy fairly quickly was the fact that she was as tough or tougher than anybody in the world." President Obama. He might have been thinking of the time when he and most Democratic leaders were considering caving on a big part of the ACA to get some at all passed. Pelosi informed them -- and Obama personally -- that she would have the house pass the bill they had created, or nothing. (Just one example of why insiders occasionally refer to it as "Pelosicare." )
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I don't know what it will take to break the "non-governance" spell on Republicans, but there were 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach the former guy the second time around, and now 35 voting to take a closer look at the failed insurrection. I don't know what the next break point will be, but can we look forward to 60 House Republicans taking the side of common decency (or perhaps even 105)?
catrose
(5,073 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)Cheney is not from a purple district.
Kinzinger (my rep) is, although redistricting made us reddish purple instead of bluish purple. I know him. I don't agree with him on most things, but lack of a moral compass is jot one of his failings.
Rodney Davis (also Illinois) has long been a moderate in a safe seat.
Several of them have been notably critical of T***p, the crazy train movement of the Rs, and were tea party rejectors for quite some time. Kinzinger, for example was primaried twice, because he told the Free-Dumb caucus to get bent. They wasted their money because he won both primaries by far more than he won the GE.
So, for some principle is part of it.
Others are likely, as you suggest, playing to their local base. Crazy radical doesn't sell everywhere.
Tree Lady
(11,491 posts)Red district not purple, total Trumper on letter saying Trump won. This vote surprised me.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)attacked Congress...I'm surprised.
UTUSN
(70,740 posts)kpete
(72,014 posts)Link to tweet
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Rhiannon12866
(206,006 posts)tanyev
(42,610 posts)Very solid red district. Ill have to check the local GOP facebook page for their reaction.
LudwigPastorius
(9,170 posts)The GOP will have to have someone on it to bring up Antifa and BLM red herrings over and over again.
tanyev
(42,610 posts)Comment on the Collin County GOP FB page:
RINO Van Taylor voted for Pelosi's witch hunt. Are you going to censure Van Taylor and replace him with a true conservative?
niyad
(113,552 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,088 posts)I am so shocked.
He continues to be despicable.
Sneederbunk
(14,300 posts)druidity33
(6,446 posts)TheRickles
(2,080 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)That's cracks in the GQP, doubts in McCarthy's and McConnell's strategy, acceptance of reality by 35 of them, and sympathy and support for the Capitol Police. I think this is progress. Almost 3 dozen Republicans realize they are way out on a limb.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,754 posts)Opppsition to Trumpism is growing?
I commend their courage on this vote.
ShazzieB
(16,513 posts)I think ir is growing. Not sure how fast (and probably not as fast as we would like), but I believe it's happening, little by little.
Beetwasher.
(2,981 posts)They don't happen immediately, but bit by bit. So yes, opposition is growing and will continue to grow as the truth comes out more and more and Trump's voice becomes more and more distant and pathetic. Taking him off SM was one of the best things to happen.
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)Marcuse
(7,506 posts)Pending Senate action.
djacq
(1,634 posts)rpannier
(24,338 posts)Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Tom Rice of South Carolina
Dan Newhouse of Washington
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
Peter Meijer of Michigan
John Katko of New York
David Valadao of California
Tom Reed of New York
Don Bacon of Nebraska
John Curtis of Utah
Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
Andrew Garbarino of New York
Tony Gonzales of Texas
Dusty Johnson of South Dakota
David Joyce of Ohio
Chris Smith of New Jersey
Van Taylor of Texas
Chris Jacobs of New York
David McKinley of West Virginia
Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska
Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida
Mariannette Miller-Meeks of Iowa
Steve Womack of Arkansas
Stephanie Bice of Oklahoma
French Hill of Arkansas
Mike Simpson of Idaho
Rodney Davis of Illinois
Blake Moore of Utah
Michael Guest of Mississippi
Trey Hollingsworth of Indiana
Carlos Gimenez of Florida
Cliff Bentz of Oregon
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)I know both from Illinois are. So is Cheney.
But, Kinzinger & Davis are unlikely to be primaried out and the Rs will waste their money.
I consider that a positive.
C Moon
(12,221 posts)TheRickles
(2,080 posts)bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Gonna invest in popcorn futures...
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Just won the seat formerly occupied by that guy who talked against trump previously. Can't remember his name but he was a libertarian serving as a republican.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)I'm going to email my thanks to these Representatives, even though I can't vote for any of them. They've put their necks on the line, and I'm going to assume that their intentions are for the good of the country.
lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)Aren't safe, but they want to be safe in their workplace.
So, they can steal or ignore my vote, but citizens must keep their distance. Hmmm...