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(4,175 posts)
Wed May 19, 2021, 07:23 PM May 2021

35 Republicans Defy Kevin McCarthy And Join Democrats To Pass 1/6 Commission Bill

The final vote was 252-175 in favor of creating the commission.

Sadly those House Republicans were offset by the rest of their colleagues who voted for a cover-up and against finding out the whole story of the attack on the Capitol.

The vast majority of House Republicans were cowards who chose to protect Trump’s Big Lie and the currently under criminal investigation former president at the expense of the truth and health of US democracy.


https://www.politicususa.com/2021/05/19/house-passes-1-6-commission-bill.html

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35 Republicans Defy Kevin McCarthy And Join Democrats To Pass 1/6 Commission Bill (Original Post) 634-5789 May 2021 OP
The big question is the makeup of the committee. OnDoutside May 2021 #1
:) Is it? I assume we'll appoint honest and capable people Hortensis May 2021 #37
You're right, if they find 10 GOP Senators to vote this through. In that situation, you'll have OnDoutside May 2021 #38
:) We'll see, but the Dems won't be handicapped in the least by Hortensis May 2021 #40
My hope is that Pelosi knew that this Bipartisanship would go nowhere, and is just letting the OnDoutside May 2021 #41
:) Of course she is letting the process play out. Hortensis May 2021 #43
Gee, maybe the Republicans aren't as monolithically inhumane as they'd like people to believe gratuitous May 2021 #2
I wonder who the 35 are catrose May 2021 #3
Likely from Purple districts. I don't think it has anything to do with character. nt Progressive Jones May 2021 #12
Yes & No ProfessorGAC May 2021 #22
My congressman Oregon district 2 Tree Lady May 2021 #28
Well, that's a pleasant surprise. abqtommy May 2021 #4
Cracks in the wall of solidarity among these thugs supporting the thug formerly in the WH that SWBTATTReg May 2021 #5
But then there's turtle UTUSN May 2021 #6
The 35- kpete May 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles May 2021 #8
Rt TY Cha May 2021 #9
Thanks! Looks like they came from a broad coalition of states... Rhiannon12866 May 2021 #14
Wow! I'm stunned to see my rep Van Taylor on there. tanyev May 2021 #21
Maybe he's gunning for a seat on the committee. LudwigPastorius May 2021 #31
LOL, and so it begins. tanyev May 2021 #32
Colour me soooooo not surprised. None of the three nutjobs from CO are on that list. niyad May 2021 #24
Wow, You Lie isn't on the list. GoCubsGo May 2021 #33
+1, uponit7771 May 2021 #35
Add this to the list of reasons why McCarthy will never be Speaker. Sneederbunk May 2021 #10
more than i expected actually. nt druidity33 May 2021 #11
Yes, it's surprisingly good news when taken in context. TheRickles May 2021 #13
+10x bucolic_frolic May 2021 #16
Do we dare hope that this means Sucha NastyWoman May 2021 #17
I think the answer to your question is probably yes, ShazzieB May 2021 #29
Soical Dynamic Inertia Applies to These Sorts of Things Beetwasher. May 2021 #39
Or another way to look at it is that it's a floor from which Cheney can build an opposition. OnDoutside May 2021 #42
So the Republicans who voted no may choose half the commission. Marcuse May 2021 #15
VA-05 Bob Good, aka Chkn Sh_t, voted against. djacq May 2021 #18
The list of the 35 that magats will be targetting in 2022 rpannier May 2021 #19
THIS. roamer65 May 2021 #20
Most Are Already Targeted ProfessorGAC May 2021 #23
The only 35 not contaminated by Russian money. C Moon May 2021 #25
Or kompromat. TheRickles May 2021 #34
+1, uponit7771 May 2021 #36
Jimenez from FL26? bluecollar2 May 2021 #26
I think Meijer from Michigan tiredtoo May 2021 #27
Let's send a round of THANKS to these courageous men and women FakeNoose May 2021 #30
Those 35 voted to reject the potus vote count. So voting rights lindysalsagal May 2021 #44

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. :) Is it? I assume we'll appoint honest and capable people
Thu May 20, 2021, 06:58 AM
May 2021

to investigate Jan 6. The Pubs will appoint agents to impede and suppress the process and findings and to make continual public statements over the next year to feed confusion and distrust into open mouths.

Seriously, I haven't read about this. Is it more complex than that?

OnDoutside

(19,970 posts)
38. You're right, if they find 10 GOP Senators to vote this through. In that situation, you'll have
Thu May 20, 2021, 09:48 AM
May 2021

clowns like Jordan, Gohmert, Biggs etc bringing the tone down to the gutter. All the appearance of Bipartisanship, god help us !

On the other side though, when the current effort fails, let's confine Bipartisanship to the trash can. Throw out the agreed deal, or most of it, and as has been suggested, invite Cheney, Kizinger, Rigglemann and perhaps Todd Whitman to this Commission. With two sitting GOP Congressmen to take part, along with other former none Trumper GOP people, it will give the cloak of Bipartisanship but in reality you'll have 4 people especially wanting to stick the boot into Trump and the Republican cowards.

Thinking about it, McConnell would be stupid to kill the current initiative, taking control out of their hands.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. :) We'll see, but the Dems won't be handicapped in the least by
Thu May 20, 2021, 11:32 AM
May 2021

bipartisan principles of democracy that have zero chance of working in application. That's been the situation for more than a decade now since the Pubs have degraded into the dysfunctional, corrupt mess that they are.

The difference this year is that they don't control the presidency, the senate, or the house and can't block all our legislation. We do. Barely, but we do. If they want anything passed, they have to give.

As for the commission, 35 crossing the aisle isn't a lot, but it's not chopped liver either. Seriously, I don't know how picking the panel will work on the right, but that group reportedly has leaders, so maybe a couple of them might end up on it...?

OnDoutside

(19,970 posts)
41. My hope is that Pelosi knew that this Bipartisanship would go nowhere, and is just letting the
Thu May 20, 2021, 06:23 PM
May 2021

process play out so she can then ramp it up without having the likes of Jordan etc interfering. Fingers crossed on that one !

My constant fear is that a Senate Dem will fall gravely ill or worse, and then nothing gets passed, most especially S1. Time is not in great supply unfortunately.

I agree 35 is a significant number but if it passed in the Senate, you just know McCarthy would be picking Jordan, Nunes, Gohmert etc. Cheney would not be allowed anywhere near it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. :) Of course she is letting the process play out.
Fri May 21, 2021, 10:07 AM
May 2021

No need for crossed fingers.

You know, like many others former speaker John Boehner expresses real admiration for Pelosi's ferocious competence at her job, "among" the best he'd ever seen, but like others he's also complained she should have tried harder to build better relationships across the aisle. (Yeah, we know how that works.) The GOP went bad a long time ago. Pelosi's very strongly liberal, and her attitude has always famously been "politics as war."

She's not fooled by them, and when she said she's never surprised by them she was telling the simple truth.

"The one thing that I understood about Nancy fairly quickly was the fact that she was as tough or tougher than anybody in the world." President Obama. He might have been thinking of the time when he and most Democratic leaders were considering caving on a big part of the ACA to get some at all passed. Pelosi informed them -- and Obama personally -- that she would have the house pass the bill they had created, or nothing. (Just one example of why insiders occasionally refer to it as "Pelosicare." )

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Gee, maybe the Republicans aren't as monolithically inhumane as they'd like people to believe
Wed May 19, 2021, 07:31 PM
May 2021

I don't know what it will take to break the "non-governance" spell on Republicans, but there were 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach the former guy the second time around, and now 35 voting to take a closer look at the failed insurrection. I don't know what the next break point will be, but can we look forward to 60 House Republicans taking the side of common decency (or perhaps even 105)?

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
22. Yes & No
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:01 PM
May 2021

Cheney is not from a purple district.
Kinzinger (my rep) is, although redistricting made us reddish purple instead of bluish purple. I know him. I don't agree with him on most things, but lack of a moral compass is jot one of his failings.
Rodney Davis (also Illinois) has long been a moderate in a safe seat.
Several of them have been notably critical of T***p, the crazy train movement of the Rs, and were tea party rejectors for quite some time. Kinzinger, for example was primaried twice, because he told the Free-Dumb caucus to get bent. They wasted their money because he won both primaries by far more than he won the GE.
So, for some principle is part of it.
Others are likely, as you suggest, playing to their local base. Crazy radical doesn't sell everywhere.

Tree Lady

(11,491 posts)
28. My congressman Oregon district 2
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:36 PM
May 2021

Red district not purple, total Trumper on letter saying Trump won. This vote surprised me.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
5. Cracks in the wall of solidarity among these thugs supporting the thug formerly in the WH that
Wed May 19, 2021, 07:34 PM
May 2021

attacked Congress...I'm surprised.

Response to kpete (Reply #7)

tanyev

(42,610 posts)
21. Wow! I'm stunned to see my rep Van Taylor on there.
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:01 PM
May 2021

Very solid red district. I’ll have to check the local GOP facebook page for their reaction.

LudwigPastorius

(9,170 posts)
31. Maybe he's gunning for a seat on the committee.
Wed May 19, 2021, 10:26 PM
May 2021

The GOP will have to have someone on it to bring up Antifa and BLM red herrings over and over again.

tanyev

(42,610 posts)
32. LOL, and so it begins.
Wed May 19, 2021, 11:16 PM
May 2021

Comment on the Collin County GOP FB page:

RINO Van Taylor voted for Pelosi's witch hunt. Are you going to censure Van Taylor and replace him with a true conservative?

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
16. +10x
Wed May 19, 2021, 08:37 PM
May 2021

That's cracks in the GQP, doubts in McCarthy's and McConnell's strategy, acceptance of reality by 35 of them, and sympathy and support for the Capitol Police. I think this is progress. Almost 3 dozen Republicans realize they are way out on a limb.

ShazzieB

(16,513 posts)
29. I think the answer to your question is probably yes,
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:52 PM
May 2021

I think ir is growing. Not sure how fast (and probably not as fast as we would like), but I believe it's happening, little by little.

Beetwasher.

(2,981 posts)
39. Soical Dynamic Inertia Applies to These Sorts of Things
Thu May 20, 2021, 09:54 AM
May 2021

They don't happen immediately, but bit by bit. So yes, opposition is growing and will continue to grow as the truth comes out more and more and Trump's voice becomes more and more distant and pathetic. Taking him off SM was one of the best things to happen.

rpannier

(24,338 posts)
19. The list of the 35 that magats will be targetting in 2022
Wed May 19, 2021, 08:43 PM
May 2021

Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Tom Rice of South Carolina
Dan Newhouse of Washington
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Fred Upton of Michigan
Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington
Peter Meijer of Michigan
John Katko of New York
David Valadao of California
Tom Reed of New York
Don Bacon of Nebraska
John Curtis of Utah
Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
Andrew Garbarino of New York
Tony Gonzales of Texas
Dusty Johnson of South Dakota
David Joyce of Ohio
Chris Smith of New Jersey
Van Taylor of Texas
Chris Jacobs of New York
David McKinley of West Virginia
Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska
Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida
Mariannette Miller-Meeks of Iowa
Steve Womack of Arkansas
Stephanie Bice of Oklahoma
French Hill of Arkansas
Mike Simpson of Idaho
Rodney Davis of Illinois
Blake Moore of Utah
Michael Guest of Mississippi
Trey Hollingsworth of Indiana
Carlos Gimenez of Florida
Cliff Bentz of Oregon

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
23. Most Are Already Targeted
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:04 PM
May 2021

I know both from Illinois are. So is Cheney.
But, Kinzinger & Davis are unlikely to be primaried out and the Rs will waste their money.
I consider that a positive.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
27. I think Meijer from Michigan
Wed May 19, 2021, 09:30 PM
May 2021

Just won the seat formerly occupied by that guy who talked against trump previously. Can't remember his name but he was a libertarian serving as a republican.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
30. Let's send a round of THANKS to these courageous men and women
Wed May 19, 2021, 10:24 PM
May 2021

I'm going to email my thanks to these Representatives, even though I can't vote for any of them. They've put their necks on the line, and I'm going to assume that their intentions are for the good of the country.

lindysalsagal

(20,730 posts)
44. Those 35 voted to reject the potus vote count. So voting rights
Fri May 21, 2021, 11:52 AM
May 2021

Aren't safe, but they want to be safe in their workplace.

So, they can steal or ignore my vote, but citizens must keep their distance. Hmmm...

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