Why don't the democrats call for an audit of the voting machines that

[diehardblue]

resulted in Graham and McConnell being certified as winners? That is where there probably is some suspicious activity.

[raccoon]

1. As a resident of SC, I say a loud "Amen" to that. Nt

[gab13by13]

2. Seriously people,

they need to audit ES&S machines in Maine, Kentucky, and Florida. When exit polling is way off from actual results there's a snake in the wood pile.

[2naSalit]

4. Add...

Montana to the list.

[brooklynite]

8. Yes, let's make the public LESS confident in the outcome of the election...

Donald Trump's work is apparently done.

[gab13by13]

15. When America was that shining city on a hill,

when we were the gold standard for how to run elections, fledgling democracies called upon the US to monitor their elections. Do you remember one of the main tools we used to monitor their elections? Exit polling. When we found exit polling differed significantly from the actual vote count we raised alarm bells.

Why shouldn't that same standard apply to our elections? I am not making willy nilly oh we lost there must be fraud claims. When regular polling and exit polling differ from actual results it "can be" an indication of fraud.

Do you think I am off base to question what went on in Ohio in the 2004 election? When the votes from Ohio were routed to a warehouse in Tennessee and an individual was prepared to testify before Congress about that incident but his small plane crashed on his way to DC.
Am I being less confident in the results of a few particular elections? You bet I am, but I have actual reasons to be less confident.

I also believe that we won the last election because more people voted with mail in ballots. Is it just a coincidence that Republicans are passing bills to restrict the use of mail in ballots in future elections?

Our public is less confident in the outcome of our elections because our DOJ sits back and allows a Qanon company to violate federal election laws. If there are no consequences for what is going on in Arizona these Qanon people are going to move on to other states.

Call me paranoid and blame me for making people less confident in the outcome of our elections but I have voted for decades into a black hole machine in Pa. with no paper trail and when I was given the chance to vote by mail I jumped on board. I just voted by mail in our recent primary and will continue to do so until our Republican controlled legislature stops me.

[brooklynite]

20. You called out Maine...

...where Biden beat Trump and Two Democratic members of Congress beat their Republican opponents. Apparently you can only rig one election at a time?

[Eyeball_Kid]

22. IMO, all roads should lead to hand-counted paper ballots. n/t

[brooklynite]

23. Have you discussed this with your elected officials or Board of Election?

I see no actual effort underway to implement this policy.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. For some reason

both parties are ok with the current status quo. Election accuracy and integrity is a conundrum that no one wanted to topple until Trump reared his ugly head.

[gab13by13]

5. Go ahead, call me a conspiracy nut,

but IMO, one of the main reasons that we won the last election was because of a significantly greater use of mail in ballots, which are harder to flip. It isn't coincidence that the Heritage Foundation wrote up bills for Republicans which restrict the use of mail in ballots in future elections. I vote in Pa. and for years on end I voted into a black hole machine with no paper trail.

I also shudder when I hear MF45 and the rest of the GQP talk about how Dominion machines are flipping votes for Democrats when I am aware of their use of projection.

I complain about the ES&S voting machines not on a whim but because several state races that used those machines had discrepancies between exit polling and actual vote counts.

[StarfishSaver]

6. So, you don't have a problem with the GOP tactics

You just don't like their goal. But you're fine with us behaving just like they do as long as you think the outcome favors us?

[diehardblue]

10. Sometimes you have to turn the adversaries tactics back at them. In some cases, remaining "goody"

will insure defeat. It's time to go hard or just surrender.

[StarfishSaver]

11. Right

Become them to beat them but then go back to being who we think we are.

No, thank you. We can win without turning into the very thing we claim not to be.

[gab13by13]

16. See post #15.

[brooklynite]

7. Because we don't subscribe to baseless conspiracy theories.

[betsuni]

9. LOL: Why don't Democrat stop ____ ?

[StarfishSaver]

12. IKR?

Why can't Democrats be Republicans so we can win?

[gab13by13]

17. Not a fair statement.

If there are legitimate reasons to question the outcome of an election, is it not our duty to follow up?

Do you believe that the 2004 election vote count in Ohio should have been investigated? Or would we be just like Republicans for questioning why votes from Ohio went through a warehouse in Tennessee, and why the person who was going to testify before Congress about the issue was killed in his small plane crash?

I don't know the answer to this but it would be interesting for someone to investigate. How many outcomes of elections are there where the Democratic candidate was projected to win because of exit polling but lost, and how many outcomes of elections are there where the Republican candidate was projected to win because of exit polling but lost. Just a thought.

Also, is it a fair request to want to know who the owners of voting machines are?

[StarfishSaver]

21. Following up is one thing

Using Republican tactics to "follow up" six months later in hopes of undoing the results is another.

[FifthColumn]

13. Projection

Today's Republican party is built on projection; every accusation is an admission (see Matt Gaetz). Add to this the following facts: They only demand to check the Dominion voting machines, but they're okay with the totals from the ES&S machines. The ES&S machines have been proven in the past to be easily hackable, unlike the Dominion ones. The ES&S totals don't match the exit polls, unlike the Dominion results, but we generally trust the polling in all other aspects of our lives and businesses. Therefore, it is very likely that the ES&S results are bogus, and the Republicans are hoping that, even if all the Dominion results are verified, the American public will say," Okay, all the voting machines are good," since they don't know about the different models being used. Then Republicans can happily go back to using the ES&S machines wherever they control the state government, and they will continue to dominate the House and Senate. They are playing hard ball in order to control the richest country in the world.

[diehardblue]

14. Very interesting!

[gab13by13]

18. Jamie Raskin seems to think we need to regulate

companies that are involved in our election infrastructure. Raskin claims there aren't enough federal laws that regulate who counts our votes. He has tried to pass laws restricting who can count our votes.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/22/us-voting-machine-private-companies-voter-registration

[Wounded Bear]

19. That certainly sounds like a good idea...

which means repubs will never agree to it.