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Duncanpup

(12,861 posts)
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:03 PM May 2021

If you sat down with Christ today what would you say

First is this wrong forum ,IF so apologies I ramble, I would say dude I’m sorry that we have turned your messages of unconditional love into a message of oppression , and then these people attach it to nationalism and violence and greed. Everything you spoke against and they perverse your message of love. And then these people end up loving trumpig who claim be Christian I don’t get them.

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If you sat down with Christ today what would you say (Original Post) Duncanpup May 2021 OP
Christ didn't preach messages of unconditional love. Mariana May 2021 #1
I see his love as healing sick blind feeding poor Duncanpup May 2021 #19
Oh please. Goodheart May 2021 #44
Your not gonna believe this, Mr.Bill May 2021 #60
You might look at his words in the multigraincracker May 2021 #27
Those verses I posted are supposedly Jesus's words. Mariana May 2021 #38
Those Red letters don't speak to gay marriage or abortion. multigraincracker May 2021 #40
wow! I was aware the Old Testament was filled with savagery and misogyny msfiddlestix May 2021 #33
Read the New Testament. It's short. Focus on the Red Letter portions. Hekate May 2021 #58
"Wanna beer?" -misanthroptimist May 2021 #2
"I'm sorry I spilt the tea on you" sanatanadharma May 2021 #3
You should have looked in toast. milestogo May 2021 #26
Did you try to convince people you were not the son of God, or did you just play along? TheBlackAdder May 2021 #4
Hey Jesus, are you really divine? LakeArenal May 2021 #5
If you sat down and talked with him today then that would be a really stupid question, wouldn't it? Towlie May 2021 #9
You have no idea how long our ancient aliens live. Unless...... LakeArenal May 2021 #31
So... TlalocW May 2021 #6
I guess that's a message of unconditional love. nt. Mariana May 2021 #8
Sorry, I don't speak Aramaic. Sneederbunk May 2021 #7
Oh no, not again sarisataka May 2021 #10
Would you please tell your followers that Haggard Celine May 2021 #11
Dear god don't know if you noticed but Goodheart May 2021 #42
+1 for XTC TheProle May 2021 #61
I'd say for an omnipotent being he has a lot of fucking explaining to do. Act_of_Reparation May 2021 #12
Yeah. What happened to all the smiting? LakeArenal May 2021 #32
This 10,000 % msfiddlestix May 2021 #36
Everybody needs somebody... kentuck May 2021 #13
"Pass the bread and wine, please?" marble falls May 2021 #14
But the real question is... Yavin4 May 2021 #43
If he was Brooklyn in '78 - '84 he did ... marble falls May 2021 #45
ah, so it IS a typo. Nice to meet you, Chris! NewHendoLib May 2021 #15
Laughed hard at that one! Bayard May 2021 #22
That's easy atreides1 May 2021 #16
I would say... Caliman73 May 2021 #17
I'd tell him to watch out! There are people running around with crosses looking for you! Midnight Writer May 2021 #18
Smite them. dalton99a May 2021 #20
I would tell him that he and his father are shitty beings Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #21
Also, they have held a grudge for 2000 cuz a woman ate a bit of fruit!! LakeArenal May 2021 #35
Why do you not stop kids from dying! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #23
Are you gonna eat that? milestogo May 2021 #24
I want to be Mel Brooks. roamer65 May 2021 #25
Can you explain the multigraincracker May 2021 #28
here ya go ... marble falls May 2021 #47
I always wondered about multigraincracker May 2021 #54
I think the early Church fathers believed that the Spirit was without gender. I wonder ... marble falls May 2021 #63
"What's the better choice: Pfizer or Moderna? And, are you vaccinated? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2021 #29
You had some great ideas. LiberatedUSA May 2021 #30
I'd Tell Him RobinA May 2021 #34
Allows child trafficking. LakeArenal May 2021 #37
I would implore him NOT to say whatever... 3catwoman3 May 2021 #39
That's so funny. I was sure you were just a myth. :) Goodheart May 2021 #41
Why did you change your gender to a man? Klaralven May 2021 #46
PLEASE remove ALL human beings off Raine May 2021 #48
"Wow, you're real." gldstwmn May 2021 #49
Can you please get on with the rapture hurl May 2021 #50
Please find my family and tell them that I've lost my mind Blecht May 2021 #51
So, I got in? nt RegularJam May 2021 #52
Stay away from Jerusalem, dude! MineralMan May 2021 #53
Well, first I'd probably hit him. hunter May 2021 #55
I'd say, Would you please have a talk with the DEVIL bluestarone May 2021 #56
Alright, that's it. aka-chmeee May 2021 #57
Sorry, guy. Mulligan? Oneironaut May 2021 #59
Can you ask your followers never Tree Lady May 2021 #62

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
1. Christ didn't preach messages of unconditional love.
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:08 PM
May 2021

If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14: 26

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10: 35-37

And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. Matthew 19: 29

Duncanpup

(12,861 posts)
19. I see his love as healing sick blind feeding poor
Fri May 21, 2021, 03:01 PM
May 2021

Casting demons into swine that’s to me hey I don’t know you yet I love you that is unconditional I feel.

Goodheart

(5,327 posts)
44. Oh please.
Fri May 21, 2021, 06:51 PM
May 2021

He cast demons into a herd of innocent pigs and sent them off a cliff to their bone-shattering deaths.

How was that in any way a good tale?

multigraincracker

(32,690 posts)
27. You might look at his words in the
Fri May 21, 2021, 03:36 PM
May 2021

Sermon on the Mt. and the Beatitudes. I get a different feeling from those words in Red.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
38. Those verses I posted are supposedly Jesus's words.
Fri May 21, 2021, 04:26 PM
May 2021

I'm not in any position to pick and choose which of Jesus's teachings are important to follow, and which can safely be ignored.

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
33. wow! I was aware the Old Testament was filled with savagery and misogyny
Fri May 21, 2021, 04:00 PM
May 2021

but I hadn't realized the NEW Testament was filled with hmm, hate and deliberate division.

Next time my sister asks me if I believe "IN THE BIBLE", I'll try and remember that verse.

Probably not going to happen, give she just hung on me (yesterday) for calling her cult idol a snake and con man.


I have been since the age of 12 a deep believer in Freedom From Religion.

Jesus ain't got nothing to do with any of this shite.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
3. "I'm sorry I spilt the tea on you"
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:09 PM
May 2021

"I am just so excited to see you. I've been looking for you everywhere. Sugar? Cream? Or are you perhaps a vegan?"
"I had questions but now my mind is blindingly clear. Cookies?"

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
9. If you sat down and talked with him today then that would be a really stupid question, wouldn't it?
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:13 PM
May 2021

 


I mean, staying alive for nearly 2,000 years would be pretty convincing.

Haggard Celine

(16,847 posts)
11. Would you please tell your followers that
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:17 PM
May 2021

you're not coming back to rapture them? Their belief in a rapture is causing all sorts of terrible problems here.

Goodheart

(5,327 posts)
42. Dear god don't know if you noticed but
Fri May 21, 2021, 06:49 PM
May 2021

Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
Still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you
I can't believe in you.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
14. "Pass the bread and wine, please?"
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:32 PM
May 2021

One thing I feel about Christ is that he was no aesthete.

His first miracle, water into wine, and not fill in the gap quality, but good wine. And at a wedding party. I think Christ would have danced with the bride and joked with the groom over a cup. Christ hung with fishermen, he's called the carpenter, and some say that he was not a carpenter but a mason. These are not guys who discuss the Torah or the Kabbalah all day, these are hard-working people who laugh and joke and complain and yell and Christ worked with and among them laughing, talking, yelling along with them. Because this Christ also took a whip and drove the money changers and commercial booths out of the Temple in real anger, who also stood to toe with Satan in the desert.

What I really, really appreciate about Christ is, he's one of us.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
17. I would say...
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:40 PM
May 2021

"Huh, you are in fact real...cool. I have a ton of questions for you.

1. Are you truly God?

2. Are you omnipotent and omniscient?

3. If you are the things above, why the hell didn't you make it more clear? Why leave it to "oral tradition" and people interpreting your life and words?

4. Why allow people to continue harming themselves and others fighting about you? Seems kind of sadistic for you to allow this to happen.

There are more, but I could go on for pages.

Knowing that I could be blinked out of existence in an instant, or subjected to torture, I would still ask those questions because if God is omnipotent and omniscient, then it could eliminate suffering in the world instantly. I do not buy this "free will" crap. Why would an all powerful God need people to "Choose" to love and follow? It sounds petty and small for a supreme being to do that.

Why other religions? Are there other gods competing to be the supreme?

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
18. I'd tell him to watch out! There are people running around with crosses looking for you!
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:57 PM
May 2021

You remember what happened last time.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
21. I would tell him that he and his father are shitty beings
Fri May 21, 2021, 03:03 PM
May 2021

The claim is that they are all powerful beings. If that is the case then they flat out suck.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
47. here ya go ...
Fri May 21, 2021, 07:54 PM
May 2021



The missing names in the circles are Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

The Father is not the Son, The Father is not the Spirit ect

multigraincracker

(32,690 posts)
54. I always wondered about
Fri May 21, 2021, 08:10 PM
May 2021

pronoun for the Holy Spirit. Might be she or her. Would that make them all non-binary? They are all one, just like you and your dad.

I do like the chart.

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
63. I think the early Church fathers believed that the Spirit was without gender. I wonder ...
Fri May 21, 2021, 10:13 PM
May 2021

... if the Father wasn't originally the Mother. But my conclusion is that in that gender doesn't seem to me to be a concern of an all powerful Deity, it's not my concern either. Using 'Father' is a concession to the ease of convention.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
29. "What's the better choice: Pfizer or Moderna? And, are you vaccinated?
Fri May 21, 2021, 03:46 PM
May 2021

Are all the disciples vaccinated? Even Judas, that ... that ... that Judas!?

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
30. You had some great ideas.
Fri May 21, 2021, 03:51 PM
May 2021

Too bad they took your story, added to it and made you a son of a God to control people.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
34. I'd Tell Him
Fri May 21, 2021, 04:01 PM
May 2021

that he and his father are the very definition of terrorists and bullies, or else they are frauds They see bad things happen, they could stop them from happening (according to them) but they don't. They manipulate people with fear. They have watched bloody wars happen with millions killed over which form of belief in them is right, but they do nothing. I'd tell him that although they have inspired some really great art and buildings, it seems pretty narcissistic to sit around and watch all this art and architecture happen but, let's face it, do very little to earn the adulation. Although, I might congratulate him on the scam they've got going. It's damn lucrative.

3catwoman3

(24,007 posts)
39. I would implore him NOT to say whatever...
Fri May 21, 2021, 05:00 PM
May 2021

...variation of “No one gets to the father except thru me” thing he might have actually said.

The exclusionary nature of Christianity, based on that alleged statement, is very damaging and intolerant.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
46. Why did you change your gender to a man?
Fri May 21, 2021, 07:52 PM
May 2021

Being born of a virgin, he should be genetically identical to Mary.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
48. PLEASE remove ALL human beings off
Fri May 21, 2021, 07:55 PM
May 2021

this beautiful planet so all the animals can live their best lives and the Earth can heal. 🙏

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
51. Please find my family and tell them that I've lost my mind
Fri May 21, 2021, 08:00 PM
May 2021

That must be the case if I am sitting down with a piece of mythology.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
56. I'd say, Would you please have a talk with the DEVIL
Fri May 21, 2021, 08:21 PM
May 2021

Lots of his people need their ASS pulled into Hell!! What's the hold up?

Tree Lady

(11,476 posts)
62. Can you ask your followers never
Fri May 21, 2021, 09:53 PM
May 2021

To write a book about you? Believe me they will use it to twist your life up and lie about it.

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