Republicans also voted NOT to fund a Wellness Center, reimburse the Natl Guard etc...

[Budi]

Link to tweet

Officer Eugene Goodman


They voted to Not fund a wellness center being named after his coworker that killed himself.

Yet THEY all benefitted from extra protection after the insurrection. At the tax payers expense.

"Talk about defunding the police:
Every House Republican just voted against reimbursing the National Guard, and local and federal law enforcement, including overtime pay and wellness programs for the US Capitol Police, for their response to the January 6 attack on the Capitol."

Thanks that it was saved by just ONE sensible vote.

[Lovie777]

1. All of them? . . ..

including Cheney and Kinzinger. . ..

[Budi]

3. Every No Vote. All 209 of the Repub no votes specifically.

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Refused the Wellness Center & protections.

Yet all those Nayes benefitted from added security.

Sick, selfish fks

[George II]

9. I think you have a typo? There were 209 republican no votes in total.

[Budi]

13. Yes, Thanks 209

[bottomofthehill]

2. Every single one

A couple Dems votes against it too. It passed by 1 vote with 3 Democrats voting present.

[Budi]

5. Here's what those "present" votes could have cost :

The ‘Present’ votes are hardly better than the noes.
2 Republicans did not vote. Had they done so, the critically needed funding measure would have been defeated

[bottomofthehill]

7. Totally agree.

This should have been an easy vote for all but the republicans voted no because that’s what they do and the democratic defectors were busy letting the perfect be the enemy of the Very Good and Very Necessary.

[CharleyDog]

10. exactly. In these circumstances, a "present" vote is a vote for "NO"

They know it, we know it. Too cowardly to vote NO, think they're being cute with the "present" vote.

I just don't understand. Are these people representing their constituents, or are they having private/personal trouble with paying for police guarding them?

[George II]

12. Three Democrats voted "Nay", three Democrats voted "Present". For the life of me....

....I don't understand those votes from Democrats.

Specifically the final vote was:

Yea 213 - 213 Democrats, 0 republicans
Nay 212 - 209 republicans, 3 Democrats (Bush, Omar, Pressley)
Present - 0 republicans, 3 Democrats (Bowman, Ocasio-Cortez, Tlaib)
Not voting - 2 republicans (Carter, Webster)

[Autumn]

16. You know how it works and it's very easy to understand the 3 Present votes George.

Police budgets are too large as it is, they don't needs a increase.
It's the same as when Manchin and Simila are given cover to blow off a vote to please their constituants and their own right leaning values. If it looked like it would have failed one or more of the Squad would have voted for it.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-narrowly-passes-1-9-billion-emergency-funding-bill-bolster-n1268027

The three Democrats who voted against the bill were Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Cori Bush of Missouri and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. The three Democrats who voted present were Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Jamaal Bowman of New York and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan. They are all members of the so-called squad, a group of the most liberal lawmakers in the House.

Opposition to the bill largely stemmed from a provision allocating more funds to the police — which would run contrary to calls on the left to "defund" the police.

“There are some things about the bill that I support, like making sure our custodial staff and our cleaners have the resources they need to respond and deal with this trauma. But there are other parts of it that I don't support, like adding more funding to police budgets,” Bowman said. “So that's why I decided to vote present.”

Of course no Republicans supported the bill.

[George II]

18. Autumn, I'm not even going to try to explain the ramifications of not voting for this bill.....

....chuckle if you want, Autumn.

Autumn, I KNOW why they voted either nay or present, Autumn.

[Autumn]

19. You know but you don't understand why?

Okay. If it got down to the wire votes would have changed.

[George II]

20. Autumn, of course I know "why", this isn't a matter of playing games or playing chicken*, Autumn.

*Autumn, so I'm not accused of saying something I'm not saying, Autumn:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(game)

Have a pleasant evening, Autumn.

[Autumn]

21. ROTFLMAO. Th bill passed. The Squad would have changed their votes

if if looked like it was going to sink
I support them not voting for it, police budgets do not need to be increased. They should get the same response the esteemed Dems from AZ and WV receive when they vote their conscience.

[Me.]

24. If They Didn't Vote For

it's as good as a vote against and let's not pretend otherwise.

[NurseJackie]

45. What good purpose does it serve to not support it?

I have zero respect for anyone who did not support this! Loyal Democrats need to stick together.

[Me.]

47. Not One Bit Of It

And those pretending otherwise are under some delusions of their own. As to comments regarding Manchin I've seen here, he may be having his come to Jesus moment in the near future. The Con Senators say they will filibuster the coming bills...'how do you mend a broken heart"? Perhaps by finally getting rid of it.

[sheshe2]

22. Welp.

If it looked like it would have failed one or more of the Squad would have voted for it.

You know this as an irrefutable fact? A fact that is impossible to deny or disprove. How do you know this?

Opposition to the bill largely stemmed from a provision allocating more funds to the police — which would run contrary to calls on the left to "defund" the police.

If you read the article she said:

“There are some things about the bill that I support, like making sure our custodial staff and our cleaners have the resources they need to respond and deal with this trauma. But there are other parts of it that I don't support, like adding more funding to police budgets,” Bowman said. “So that's why I decided to vote present.”

Sorry but the bill also provides:

Under the bill, the architect of the Capitol would receive about $529 million to install new cameras around the Capitol and surrounding office buildings, for new screening vestibules and to upgrade accessible windows and doors to these buildings.

The House sergeant-at-arms would receive about $21 million to enhance security and threat assessments for members of Congress, for coordination of security for lawmakers when they travel and for the installation of cameras in members’ district offices back home.

“This bill is not about politics. It's not about settling scores. It's about ensuring that every person who comes onto the Capitol grounds is safe and is protected,” Rep. Rose DeLauro, D-Conn., chairwoman of the House Appropriations Committee, said on the House floor Thursday.

..................

No where do I see a bill that is FUNDING THE POLICE. As I posted above it has to do with protecting members while at the capitol with ENHANCED SECURITY, screening vestibules, upgrade accessible windows

Oh wait! Then we have another great way to fund the police!!! 21M goes to protect all members when traveling and instillation of cameras in our members district offices back home.

Please point out how the police are reaping all this money in when they are paying it out to all members no matter their political affiliation is or how they voted.

SMDH

[Autumn]

23. Welp she, I'm gonna give them the same understanding and respect Manchin and Simila get when

they vote no on important things Democrats need. I think that fair YMMV. They have to vote their concience and do what their constituants want them to do. I don't know about you but I take Jamaal Bowman at his word. I don't think he's a liar so maybe you missed something in that bill. This was why he voted the way he did.

“There are some things about the bill that I support, like making sure our custodial staff and our cleaners have the resources they need to respond and deal with this trauma. But there are other parts of it that I don't support, like adding more funding to police budgets,” Bowman said. “So that's why I decided to vote present.”

No Republicans supported the bill.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-narrowly-passes-1-9-billion-emergency-funding-bill-bolster-n1268027

[sheshe2]

26. Welp Autumn, this is not about Manchin or Simila.

Not sure why you are even bring them up here. Look, squirrel.

You never really answer questions asked of you. Bowman...was I talking about Bowman? 6 did not vote for it one way or another.

You say:

They have to vote their conscience and do what their constituents want them to do. I don't know about you but I take Jamaal Bowman at his word.

So his/ their conscience and his/their constituents do not want members protected with additional cameras in Washington of when they are in their home district or fortify accessible windows?

See. You never answer the question.

[Autumn]

27. See. The bill passed. As for your question I do know that many of their constituants support

defunding the police and feel police budgets are too big. Like I said, just like Simila and Manchin vote for their constitunts.

They have to vote their conscience and do what their constituents want them to do. I don't know about you but I take Jamaal Bowman at his word.

So Manchin or Simila and the pass they get when they vote no on Democratic bills is very relevent.

[sheshe2]

29. Yes the bill passed by one vote no thanks to a few.

You also stated they would have changed their vote in a NY minute, yet when I asked you do not have any evidence that is true. Your thoughts and that is all, Autumn.

See: X2. Twice.

You never answered the question and that in fact answers my question.

So his/ their conscience and his/their constituents do not want members protected with additional cameras in Washington of when they are in their home district or fortify accessible windows?

See. You never answer the question.

[Autumn]

33. That's a question that I can't answer since I'm not them. I don't know if they want the members

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protected at home or in DC. If you want an answer to that you will have to ask them, or try Google. Again I'm not them or from their area so you're asking the wrong person. What I do know is that they and many of their constituents support defunding the police. You and I both know Jamal Bowmans idea of the police receiving even more funding, I posted what he said. As for where I live, had mine voted no I would have accepted it. Our police budget is way to big as it is so I understand Rep Bowman's stand. Accept my answer or not she. That's the only answer you're getting from me.
As for my believing they would have changed their vote if necessary I do not have any proof, I just trust them to do what is needed. Your belief that they wouldn't have is only your thoughts and that is all, she.

[sheshe2]

38. Hmm

Autumn (40,352 posts)

27. defunding the police and feel police budgets are too big. Like I said, just like Simila and Manchin vote for their constitunts.. The bill passed. As for your question I do know that many of their constituants support

So you know they vote for their constituents and then say:

Autumn

33. That's a question that I can't answer since I'm not them. I don't know if they want the members

protected at home or in DC. If you want an answer to that you will have to ask them, or try Google. Again I'm not them or from their area so you're asking the wrong person.

Yet you did over and over.

Sweet Dreams.

[Autumn]

39. Hmm, well she, Like I said, I trust them to vote for their constituents, just like you trust

Democrats in red states to vote for their constituents. You complained in your other posts I never answered your question and here all of a sudden I've answered your questions over and over. I think we have discussed this more than enough she. You have a nice night

[sheshe2]

41. Oh, it was discussed over and over and ...

Nope, you never answered one direct question.

Not one, not even (not a question) correcting a candidates name.

Nite.

[George II]

48. You have the patience of Job. Brava!

[sheshe2]

51. ;)

Danka.

[sheshe2]

30. Actually,

The woman's name is Sinema not Simila.

[George II]

49. I've heard of Similac, not Simila.

[George II]

50. That's not true. The constituents of the 14th District, as well as most in NYC, do NOT support....

....defunding the police.

[Autumn]

52. She's not the only one who didn't vote for the bill George. Maybe she had another reason.

[George II]

53. Autumn, I know that, but the constituents of at least three of those who didn't do NOT....

....want to "defund the police". The people of NYC and lower Westchester do not, Autumn, and the people of St. Louis do not either, Autumn.

That covers half of the six. You can do the rest of the research.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/nyregion/nypd-budget.html

http://yonkerstimes.com/black-blue-lives-matter-westchester-divided/

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/citizens-sound-off-on-st-louis-mayor-tishaura-jones-plan-to-cut-vacant-police-positions/63-9b4907ea-c4e7-4d8b-bebf-75e98a78e5ba#:~:text=Louis%20mayor's%20plan%20to%20cut%20vacant%20police%20positions&text=ST.,-LOUIS%20%E2%80%94%20On%20Thursday&text=Mayor%20Jones%20says%20her%20spending,counselor's%20office%20and%20victims'%20services.

[betsuni]

31. Thank you.

[sheshe2]

32. Love you.

Some days this place just makes me cry.

[betsuni]

34. Yes.

The idea that this is what the constituents want is ludicrous. It's what Justice Democrats want. For the revolution or something.

[sheshe2]

37. From all the emails I have seen...

You are correct.

[George II]

54. Actually one voted by proxy before the vote closed. That could not have been changed....

...."if it looked like it would have failed."

Plus, two republicans did not vote - if they vote at the last minute other votes could not have been changed, either and the bill would have failed.

But I guess we can rely on the fact that Kevin McCarthy would have called Speaker Pelosi LONG before either of those two decided to vote, right?

[sheshe2]

55. Dayum.

Never knew one could vote by proxy. I thought a vote was a vote and you had to be there in person.

[George II]

56. That rule was put in last year after the virus hit. Members who couldn't make it in person....

....because of positive tests or exposure to others testing positive could designate another member to cast his/her vote.

[sheshe2]

57. So that was Omar?

[George II]

58. No, the Representative from NY-14.

[sheshe2]

59. Thanks.

[-misanthroptimist]

4. They only did that because Republicans hate America.

[Cha]

6. Rt TY... wouldn't want to bring

attention to the Domestic Terrorists Incited by TP-Treasonous Psycho.

Fucking Zombies

[Budi]

8. What a thankless sorry lot.

"Naa, you don't need no Wellness Center"

That is just cold hearted.

[sheshe2]

11. Maybe then they can explain that to the families...

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Maybe then they can explain that to families that lost a loved one to suicide. The violence of that day was to hard for a few to understand and get past. They stood strong under a vicious and deadly attack for hours when reinforcements were held back. They were left alone.

[Budi]

17. As the House Reps all sit with their premium taxpayer funded Health Care..

They have the gall to deny a Wellness Center for those heros.

This really pisses me off.
Maybe time to Defund the Wellness Perks of House members. As this situation applies, anyway.
Such elitism. 👎

[George II]

15. Anyone who would vote against that is more than thankless, they're heartless.

[Autumn]

36. Not really. They already have free access to fitness and wellness centers.

https://www.uscp.gov/careers/uscp-employee-benefits

Fitness Centers & Wellness Programs
Free use of our fitness centers and access to USCP wellness programs.

[Budi]

40. NOT THAT KIND OF WELLNESS CENTER 🙄

This us specifically for Capitol Police who suffered the horrors of 1/6.
This Center is set up for Mental & Emotional Wellness for the Officers who lived thru it, & for those families & coworkers of those who did not.

It's only 'meh, no big deal, move on', to Republicans & those who really don't give a shit the way they screech like they do, on a campaign trail.

This Wellness Center is specifically for whole health for a specific group of heros & named in honor of one of their own who took his life from the trauma of that day.

To deny that honor & to deny this special group a taxpayer funded place of their own takes quite a cold hearted, selfish & fked up mentality.

Especially considering every one of those Congressional Reps, who failed to even recognize this part of the bill, all enjoy the finest premium taxpayer funded healthcare in the nation.

It sick.

[sheshe2]

42. THANK YOU!

[Autumn]

43. Then don't complain they were denied wellness centers, they have those.

They also have mental health counselors. The part of the bill you are complaining about the Squad voting against was to rename a Capitol Police wellness program, which they already have, for U.S. Capitol Police Officer Howard Liebengood.
They can also access help through their health insurance.

Employee Assistance Program
The USCP offers its employees free access to on-site, confidential counselors who can help employees address a range of issues, including professional, personal, family and financial matters.

[Budi]

46. IGNORE is the most useful feature on DU.

Talk amongst yourselve.
Pick the parts you like.

[George II]

44. Yeah, some almost got beaten to death and even those who didn't but suffered traumatically....

....(anyone familiar with PTSD???), already have a freaking gym, so why give them another?

Perhaps some should read up on what a "wellness center" really is?

Funny thing is one who didn't vote YEA on the bill said just the other day that they were just a minute away from possible death (didn't read the actual quote), but fuck 'em, let the Capitol Police get over the trauma on their own, right?

And of course, screw this guy, he got PAID to do what he did, right? Let him recover in his local Gold's Gym!

[Me.]

25. This

Aloha Cha...

[Cha]

28. Aloha, Me!

[sheshe2]

35. Nailed it, Cha!

[betsuni]

14. K&R