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The art collector and luminary who founded the New York Academy of Art with Andy Warhol in 1979 says hes rediscovered a long-lost Vincent van Gogh masterpiece at an obscure country auction. New York collector Stuart Pivar says the painting, Auvers, 1890 in its original condition and signed on the back by Vincent is a once-in-a-lifetime find. And the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam has requested he send it to them for immediate authentication.
The piece, if authentic, was likely painted in the last two months of the famed artists life. Van Gogh shot himself in a wheat field in July 1890 possibly in one of the fields that appears in the painting, Pivar believes. Van Gogh obsessively painted more than 70 works in the last two months of his life in Auvers, on the outskirts of Paris.
Pivar said, This is what we are considering to be the greatest art find in 100 years. Its the biggest painting van Gogh ever made [and] the only one he ever made in a square format. It is on its way to the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam because they have requested to see it and authenticate it.
We consider this to be the find of the century. What is amazing is this painting has never been touched: It is still in its original stretcher. You would never ever see a painting from this period that hasnt gone through some kind of restoration. The painting, signed and dated 1890, is a square panorama of the valley of Auvers, showing its mosaic of wheat fields bisected by a railway line.
https://pagesix.com/2021/05/20/stuart-pivar-claims-hes-rediscovered-a-long-lost-van-gogh/
dweller
(23,634 posts)painted from above and at a distance
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questionseverything
(9,655 posts)dweller
(23,634 posts)hot air balloon ... but I cant think of another painting by Vincent that is from this perspective...
its totally imaginative, I cannot see how he could have seen this view, he could have seen all of the area in sections in person, but not all at once.
Thus it is purely imaginative on his part in its perspective.
Most if not all of his paintings have depicted subject that is on the artists plane of view, before him, and is regaled in the depiction of color, line and fantasia of his unique eye ...
this stands alone, afaik, in the perspective... above and at a distance, totally imaginative
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meadowlander
(4,395 posts)dweller
(23,634 posts)if you look at the foreground or bottom of the painting... its almost straight down
Vincent was known for wandering the countryside for his material for landscape painting
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csziggy
(34,136 posts)On Google Maps, I could not get to the top, but following the roads, there are some high, maybe chalk, cliffs that go straight up. At one point, pas a wall and gate and through vegetation, there was a pretty nice view - not as clear as in the painting but other than the immediate vegetation, very clear across a valley.
There is also a castle on top of one of the areas. Again, I couldn't get to it on Google Maps, but that would give a great view.
ShazzieB
(16,407 posts)The next question is whether there is a hill in the right location to provide such a view. Probably not difficult to answer if one knows the area. I'm sure the Van Gogh Museum will be able to find out.
Baitball Blogger
(46,715 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,592 posts)KatK
(185 posts)Hekate
(90,704 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Something about the rail road tracks.
canetoad
(17,161 posts)Too wishy washy and unformed.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)stylistically, it is not quite his. Especially like his late paintings, where he painted with thick strokes.
They will have to show a provenance to prove it is Van Gogh.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Love the colors.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)here is a painting he did of the train at Auvers in 1890.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I'm surprised at the number of 'art experts' here who can look at a photo on an internet forum and declare:
"That's NOT a van Gogh !"
when the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam has requested it be sent it to them for immediate authentication.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)I happened to have 40 years experience in the art world, think this is suspicious. We don't take the persons word for it. So yes, sending it to Amsterdam is the proper thing to do. If the Van Gogh Museum was not unsure, they would not of requested to see it.
The collector is not saying where he found it, and it is curious that the largest painting Van Gogh had ever painted was hidden for 130 years.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)They would not validate it unseen.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)if this was from another collection with full provenance, they might not be suspicious. As is, they want to see what is what with this painting.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)They would not validate it unseen.
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edhopper
(33,580 posts)There are many Van Goghs out there that don't need to be validated by the Van Gogh Museum.
But they have requested to see this one.
Doesn't mean it is or is not a Van Gough, their inspection will resolve that.
Are you saying we should take this person's word for it, given all the suspicious things about the painting and how untypical it is for a Van Gogh?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)edhopper
(33,580 posts)your mind's made up, it's a Van Gogh and you don't care what others have to say about it. Even some with expertise.
Okay, buh-bye.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I don't care
Now I'll put you on ignore.
edhopper
(33,580 posts)you are one of the most stellar members of DU and your contributions make it a better site.
elias7
(4,006 posts)I aspire to maintaining that demeanor in this Age...
edhopper
(33,580 posts)I get more satisfaction in him not ever seeing my compliment.
ananda
(28,862 posts)It's too controlled and rectilinear.
Goodheart
(5,325 posts)Goodheart
(5,325 posts)1) It doesn't look like a Van Gogh
2) I"ve seen the documentary "Made You Look" about fraud in the art world (available on Netflix, highly recommended)
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mopinko
(70,112 posts)mahina
(17,660 posts)Biggest ever, first square, never restored, looks weird.