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Their first filibuster will be to prevent the establishment of a Commission (Original Post) malaise May 2021 OP
Good reason to kill the filibuster soothsayer May 2021 #1
Make them use the filibuster then, gab13by13 May 2021 #2
Agree malaise May 2021 #5
Nancy Pelosi says greymattermom May 2021 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise May 2021 #6
THIS! malaise May 2021 #7
That is a possibility as well..... paleotn May 2021 #14
That's a safe bet bucolic_frolic May 2021 #4
2 1/2 years, 32 hearings, gab13by13 May 2021 #8
I'll never forget that - they knew exactly what they were doing malaise May 2021 #9
actually no, their first filibuster was on the appointee to head DHS dsc May 2021 #10
Thanks malaise May 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise May 2021 #12
Let them. paleotn May 2021 #13
Maybe we should hire a firm like cyber ninjas? Takket May 2021 #15
senatorial traitors. spanone May 2021 #16
I wish a commission or committee or whatever could focus on Laura PourMeADrink May 2021 #17

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
2. Make them use the filibuster then,
Sat May 22, 2021, 07:34 AM
May 2021

force them to stand on the floor of the Senate and explain why they are anti-democracy.

They can't filibuster a House select committee. I bet Speaker Pelosi has the plans already laid out.

Schumer needs to move this along, one of their tactics is to delay.

Response to greymattermom (Reply #3)

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
14. That is a possibility as well.....
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:35 AM
May 2021

And what Dem leadership may have wanted all along. And Republicans are giving them political cover to do just that. I'm sure Republicans are smart enough to know that, but have gotten themselves in such a corner they have little choice. The orange lunatic is the one still calling the shots for them.

What I really want is a special consul appointed by Justice who can charge, prosecute and put people in jail, even congress critters.

gab13by13

(21,348 posts)
8. 2 1/2 years, 32 hearings,
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:04 AM
May 2021

11 hours of Secretary Clinton testifying under oath for Benghazi, that found no wrong doing. Fuck Marco Rubio and his insurrectionist party.

Plus the fact, that for Benghazi, Repukes never offered a bipartisan commission, they went straight for the partisan committee hearings.

malaise

(269,008 posts)
9. I'll never forget that - they knew exactly what they were doing
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:09 AM
May 2021

That was all politics and she destroyed them

dsc

(52,162 posts)
10. actually no, their first filibuster was on the appointee to head DHS
Sat May 22, 2021, 08:19 AM
May 2021

though since only 50 votes was required to break it, it only delayed his appointment by a couple of days if that.

Response to dsc (Reply #10)

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
13. Let them.
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:28 AM
May 2021

The commission bill is so watered down as to be completely ineffectual. Republicans can pick whatever nuts they want for their 5 spots and will pack it with lunatics. The Republican vice chair can derail any and all subpoenas and the only way to override their objection is a majority vote of the 10 members. Not going to happen. Dec 31 deadline? If subpoenas are issued and fought, and they will be, it will take longer than that to adjudicate in most cases. And that deadline conveniently turns things off before the 2022 mid terms heat up.

The more I think about it, the more it looks like a trap from Republicans. OK, you don't want a partisan commission, then fine. A special consul, with real "teeth" to investigate, charge and prosecute, will be appointed. They can coordinate the ongoing investigations and start new ones, following this trail right to congressional offices with impunity.

Takket

(21,573 posts)
15. Maybe we should hire a firm like cyber ninjas?
Sat May 22, 2021, 09:39 AM
May 2021

Some for with no experience that we can just tell to report whatever we want. Is that better rethugs?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. I wish a commission or committee or whatever could focus on
Sat May 22, 2021, 10:14 AM
May 2021

Just these things:

1) did trump et al direct anyone to "slow" assistance to Cap police

2) who directed the potential bombing of party headquarters

3) who organized tour of capitol before 1-6

I think rehashing the trump crowd motives is a losing strategy. They will pack hearing with trump followers who had no part in Capitol entry. Also futile is saying trump was to blame for march down there. Of course he was but they will just say political rhetoric as they did in Impeachment.

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