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Celerity

(43,383 posts)
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:13 PM May 2021

Please help me understand what I just watched. 'Cause I'm speechless.




RACIST: People were taken care of. Would you take a tractor that you just bought brand new and tear it up, misuse it? No, you're going to take care of it, 'cause you just spent a pile of money on that. Those people produced their crops, worked their fields, so you're not gonna mistreat something like that.
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Please help me understand what I just watched. 'Cause I'm speechless. (Original Post) Celerity May 2021 OP
Slavery apologists. Disgusting. Arkansas Granny May 2021 #1
Interesting points of view we should recognize. elleng May 2021 #2
Paraphrasing: slaves cost a lot of money, why tear apart "SOME 'THING' like that" LakeArenal May 2021 #3
The response gratuitous May 2021 #4
Well done! PETRUS May 2021 #6
Pathetic BlueJac May 2021 #5
Enlightenment takes some time sometimes tirebiter May 2021 #7
Yes, some more than others. Hortensis May 2021 #15
And for every pathetic excuse I reply "They were slaves." rickyhall May 2021 #8
Wow. All the rapes and beatings and dismemberments were imagined, I suppose. Solly Mack May 2021 #9
This is horrifying. I would like to think that the internet would bring actual information into Scrivener7 May 2021 #10
you just watched... markie May 2021 #11
Comparing people to inanimate objects pandr32 May 2021 #12
That was disgusting. MuseRider May 2021 #13
Then there are the ones who say Diamond_Dog May 2021 #14
This treestar May 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author treestar May 2021 #24
Maybe their fellow congregant and friend, Big Mama, will weigh in on this exchange Hortensis May 2021 #16
"something like that" CousinIT May 2021 #17
I'm unsurprised as I've heard it... most notably from apparent "southern wannabes"--those who hlthe2b May 2021 #18
This is America. Kablooie May 2021 #19
they lack the curiousity onethatcares May 2021 #21
My Texas ancestors owned slaves and... ananda May 2021 #20
I thought I knew about slavery after watching Roots at a young age, my parents told me Gone with kimbutgar May 2021 #22
I felt the same way when I saw it mcar May 2021 #25
Something like that malaise May 2021 #26
Something like that malaise May 2021 #27
Grew up with this crap. Edwcraig May 2021 #28

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
3. Paraphrasing: slaves cost a lot of money, why tear apart "SOME 'THING' like that"
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:25 PM
May 2021

Egads. They don’t even realize how racist that statement alone is.

tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
7. Enlightenment takes some time sometimes
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:36 PM
May 2021

Cut ‘em some slack' and continue the conversation. Fried chicken tonight.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
9. Wow. All the rapes and beatings and dismemberments were imagined, I suppose.
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:38 PM
May 2021

And, golly, I love my slaves like I love my John Deere tractor!

Woohoo! Because speaking about a people in terms of being property is AOK as long as you compare them to your spanking new Kubota.

Don't it just make good common sense?

You buy a car, you take care of it.

You buy a person, of course you're going to take care of it. (and property is an IT)

Why would anyone get the idea that I'd work a slave to death or beat them to death or rape them until they die or hurt them in any way?

I treat my property better than that!

Sure, I do!

Besides, once you need a new one, you trade your old one in - that's how I got my brand new Massey Ferguson. I traded my old one in - and it was in great condition! Because you take care of property!

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
10. This is horrifying. I would like to think that the internet would bring actual information into
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:39 PM
May 2021

historical knowledge wastelands like the one in the video, but it seems like it is having the opposite effect.

markie

(22,756 posts)
11. you just watched...
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:46 PM
May 2021

ignorance, willful ignorance, lack of critical thinking and lack of any kind of meaningful empathy

pandr32

(11,586 posts)
12. Comparing people to inanimate objects
Sat May 22, 2021, 02:57 PM
May 2021

No wonder human features like will, personality, communication, intelligence, sexuality, emotion, etc. scared the hell out of 'owners'.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
13. That was disgusting.
Sat May 22, 2021, 03:00 PM
May 2021

How on earth can they even do their "nice" talk like that and not know what they are actually saying?

We are so done if this is a majority, I will close up and just stay away. This makes me ill.

Diamond_Dog

(32,000 posts)
14. Then there are the ones who say
Sat May 22, 2021, 03:16 PM
May 2021

“But SOME slave owners treated their slaves very well”!

They are still people who were brought here against their will and forced to work for nothing!
As if “They were treated well” excuses anything at all!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
23. This
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:29 PM
May 2021

We could agree, and it likely was factual, that some of the situations were not horrible, not every slave worked under Simon Legree, but the idea of being owned was wrong no matter how benevolent the "owner."

Response to Diamond_Dog (Reply #14)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Maybe their fellow congregant and friend, Big Mama, will weigh in on this exchange
Sat May 22, 2021, 03:40 PM
May 2021

when the outsiders are gone, touching, or not, on that off-the-cuff parallel between their relationship with her and affectionate slaveowners with their slaves.

It wouldn't surprise me, though, if she was also somewhat offended by how these outsiders portrayed them since she knows their good parts too. I hope so. It would mean she really does like them, isn't just pretending, which would be awful.

hlthe2b

(102,281 posts)
18. I'm unsurprised as I've heard it... most notably from apparent "southern wannabes"--those who
Sat May 22, 2021, 03:59 PM
May 2021

buy into the "heritage" argument to veil their racism--yet they themselves were "new arrivals" to the south, absent any family history. I honestly can't say which is more disgusting--those who have "redefined" their families' history to make it more palatable and to deny that their ancestors might have been responsible for horrendous cruelty--or those who want to "glom" onto that story for their own bizarre self-aggrandizement and sense of belonging to this phenomenon.

Outside the south, my state of Colorado has in recent years begun to own up to its horrendous record of Native American massacres (e.g., Sand Creek) and now the racist history of some of its leadership post-civil war with the publication of the KKK ledgers, exposing the full membership on 1300 pages from the years 1924-1926. Concurrently, figures like the late Mayor Stapleton, for whom the original Denver airport (and so more) was named, has been reexamined and the process of removing his name from important sites begun. I, for one, am grateful that this process has begun in earnest.

The people in that video are locked in denial. I doubt much will ever get through unless their children and grandchildren somehow leave the area, become enlightened, and bring change back to their communities. For most of them, though, that is unlikely to happen, having already brainwashed their children into the same fake revisionist history and interpretations.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
19. This is America.
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:01 PM
May 2021

I don't know how this changes.
If you hear this stuff all your life from friends and neighbors you would probably consider media accounts to be exaggerated or false.

Only someone who is curious and really thinks would develop a more accurate view.

I'm sure most of these people are content with their own whitewashed stories which makes them feel comfortable about themselves.
They don't see anything positive for their own lives by learning the truth.

It's all about how it affects your own life not how it affects other lives.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
21. they lack the curiousity
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:14 PM
May 2021

and the will to really think.

This is why the progeny wants to do away with critical thinking and evaluation.. IT HERTZ THER HAID!!!

misspelling on purpose.

ananda

(28,862 posts)
20. My Texas ancestors owned slaves and...
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:07 PM
May 2021

I used to hear stories like that from my grandma.

It was something like the former slave didn't want
to leave and would do anything for her and do her
hair.

My mother had a very difficult time with the racism
here in Texas and with the bigotry in my grandma's
family. She wouldn't let us kids use the N word and
she told us about racist encounters she had when she
first moved here.

She was Irish Catholic and her parents were from
Nebraska before they moved to Los Angeles. It took
me awhile to grow into a good, decent person but
it's because of her that all her kids and their families
are good Democrats.

kimbutgar

(21,153 posts)
22. I thought I knew about slavery after watching Roots at a young age, my parents told me Gone with
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:17 PM
May 2021

The wind was a joke. But then, I went to the Smithsonian Museum and saw an exhibit that upset me so much I started crying by the atrocities committed by those slave owners on their fellow human beings. Young girls raped at 6 and 7 years old, slaves with limbs cut off for not complying and seeing pictures of the scars inflicted by white slave owners on their former black slaves. No it wasn’t good for the black people it was criminal.

Edwcraig

(290 posts)
28. Grew up with this crap.
Sat May 22, 2021, 04:40 PM
May 2021

The vast majority of Southern whites do not accept that the pre-civil war South was evil They believe that they are not racists and that they are not perpetuating racism today. The Republican Party adopted these bigots as the core to the Republican Party in the 1960's and the belief of these bigots now controls the policies and beliefs of the Republican Party. I am surprised at how many Democrats do not understand this. You cannot compromise with these people. We must confront them and treat them as the evil people they are.

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