What happened on Jan. 6 was the result of years of planning--by the Republican Party

[634-5789]

The Big Lie is something Republicans have been building for years. 2020 wasn’t the start of this cycle. Donald Trump rode into the 2016 campaign already declaring that any outcome that didn’t see him victorious would be the result of fraud. He spent every day of his time inside the White House polishing that election fraud turd and promoting conspiracy theories—any conspiracy theory would do—precisely so he could level the same charges in 2020.

The difference in the Big Lie 2020 wasn’t the lie, and it wasn’t Trump. It was how he got everyone else in the GOP to play along.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/5/21/2031502/-The-Big-Lie-isn-t-something-Republicans-are-interested-in-investigating-because-they-made-it

[Lovie777]

1. Makes you wonder if 2016 was legit......

[634-5789]

2. The thought crossed my mind.

[Botany]

3. It wasn't. The Republicans know that Russia installed Trump and they didn't and still don't care.

Mike Pence was speaking about the Democrats using Russia interfernce in the election as a reason to declare
that Trump's win was illegitimate. In November and December of 2016.


The polling data that Manafort gave the Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik, was not just polling data
but data analytics or it could be turned into data analytics aka weaponized so the Russians knew where
and by how much they needed to rat fuck our elections and use the electoral college to install Trump
so Putin could hurt America. Every time Trump said "fake news" as per Trump and Russia he was lying.

What was Russia doing looking @ voter data in WI @ the county level in 2016?

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

Remember exit polls had Hillary winning easily and that Russ Feingold was at >90% chance of winning back his
senate seat too.

[RKP5637]

5. K&R!!! n/t

[Botany]

9. McConnell was told about the Russian interfernce by the Obama administration and US Intel in 2016

And he kept it hidden.

[RKP5637]

11. Truly Moscow Mitch!!! n/t

[Botany]

14. And this is why Mitch blocked all kinds of election sercuity measures

I know Botany = and

But I think Mitch knows his "wins" in KY are from rat fucking. In 2020 Mitch won districts that have been
voting blue for 20 years or so.

[bamagal62]

7. This.

[WarGamer]

8. So you're assuming that the Russkies flipped votes?

Trucked in false ballots from Vladivostok?

Or maybe just spend $3000 on Facebook and a sleeze bag Political Consultant shared polling data with a scumbag that he'd previously worked with?

I'd like to see the actual mechanics of how Russia flipped the election.

[Botany]

10. Stuff:

No need to truck in fake ballots from Vladivostok when you can see and or manipulate the data
inside the electronic voting machines and central tabulators, leave no electronic fingerprints,
and in the case EES machines you can do it remotely.

If Russia was into the voter rolls d-bases they could have done plenty of mischief. Putin wasn't into
that stuff just to "look around."

Russia was into all 50 states w/their hacking. (update)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

[WarGamer]

13. How about the recounts from 2016?

Where the recount verified the numbers?

[Botany]

15. I like pretty pictures

[WarGamer]

17. you've been to St. Petersburg?

[Botany]

18. Sure did!

3rd building back on the left side .... top floor

[Boomerproud]

12. Actually the truth (if it is) that our country is so damaged

psychologically that 45 actually had a chance to win the election over such a talented and brilliant woman is scarier than outside interference. Well, both are frightening.

[WarGamer]

16. Possibly the most qualified candidate in recent history.

I really thought getting the 'C-Team" back in the White House would have been fantastic.

Bill is my favorite POTUS in my lifetime. The 90's were AWESOME.

But yeah, this is a very divided nation and probably should be broken up before we go "Yugoslavia".

[Botany]

19. "But yeah, this is a very divided nation and probably should be broken up before we go "Yugoslavia".

[WarGamer]

20. If you'd like to debate intellectually, I'll entertain it.

[Botany]

21. не стоит

до свидания

[Hoyt]

24. For the record, someone didn't like your post and alerted on it. Christ, I get tired of that junk.

[Botany]

27. Fine .... i posted an alert on " the breaking up America like Yugoslavia" post

It is what it is.

[Hoyt]

25. Scary was Dems who didn't vote for Clinton in some foolish protest because their guy lost primary.

[Champp]

22. k & r

[Champp]

23. The fact of the matter

[Hoyt]

26. Unfortunately, Mueller also said 25 times there was no evidence trump or his campaign cooperated,

collaborated, etc., with the ruskies. Mueller wimped out.

[RKP5637]

4. K&R!!! n/t

[scarytomcat]

6. and that was the best they could come up, with

[Ligyron]

28. Excellent article.

[Initech]

29. It was 40 years of one sided Dem bashing on AM radio.

And offering no solutions of their own.