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BY JASON EASLEY at Politicus USA
Republican Obstruction Backfires As Pelosi Might Investigate I/6 Attack Until 2024
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/05/23/republican-obstruction-backfires-as-pelosi-might-investigate-i-6-attack-until-2024.html
"SNIP.....
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) warned Republicans that by blocking the commission they may make the 1/6 investigation last until 2024.
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Kinzinger said on Fox News Sunday, My party to this point has said things like it was hugs and kisses. It was Antifa and BLM. It was anything, but what it was, a Trump-inspired insurrection on the Capitol and people deserve to hear the truth, and I think now if this thing fails, Nancy Pelosi will create a select committee and this thing could run until 2024.
The legislation that Senate Republicans are rejecting is a bipartisan commission with power equally divided Democrats and Republicans. The commission would be made of non-elected officials who are not government employees.
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Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)we must maintain control of the House in the 2022 elections.
leftieNanner
(15,149 posts)But Speaker Pelosi could set up the Select Committee before 2022. And it could help us with the midterms.
applegrove
(118,778 posts)Polybius
(15,476 posts)We might not.
brush
(53,851 posts)the republicans who inspired it in the news so we win in '22. That's the point, and on to '24 is gravy.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,656 posts)WarGamer
(12,483 posts)speak easy
(9,302 posts)Sorry, can't afford that kind of talk. 'But they did not give up' - Elizabeth Warren
Just sayin
Fiendish Thingy
(15,656 posts)Warren, along with Schiff, Klobuchar, Merkley and many other Dems have publicly stated that without passing HR1, Dems will lose their majorities for a decade or more.
The Jim Crow 2.0 laws now being passed by states are setting the legal framework to install the Republican nominee in 2024, regardless of the actual will of the voters.
The phony fraudits being conducted in AZ, and soon in GA, NH, WI and elsewhere are for the purpose not to relitigate the 2020 election, but to set the psychological atmosphere of general mistrust for 2024.
If you keep framing the problem in terms of winning elections in 2022, you are missing the point; the correct framing is that the crucial fight is over passing HR1, and the critical time is NOW, in the streets if necessary, especially in WV and AZ.
Too many are willing to give up on HR1, and assume Manchin and Sinema can never be persuaded; that is a fatal assumption on which the survival of American democracy hinges.
speak easy
(9,302 posts)Sorry, but that kind of statement IS a hop, skip and a jump away from DEFEATISM.
I agree - I agree with all that you have said about the assault on democracy that is going on, but I am not gong to participate in apocalyptic language to press home a political imperative.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,656 posts)And not because they enjoy hyperbole, but because they know the stakes and want to jar the public out of exhaustion, apathy and complacency. Schiff, Klobuchar, Merkley, Schumer and others have all used this language.
Framing voting rights, and the democracy-hesitant Dem senators who refuse to support it, as an issue, like any other, that can simply be handled at the ballot box when the time comes is a perspective that will likely signal the end of American democracy.
Im not suggesting that you are framing the issue this way, but many are.
I hope you would agree that the time to fight is NOW, by direct voter action to persuade the democracy-hesitant Dem senators to pass HR1.
speak easy
(9,302 posts)There was a feeling during the Weimar Republic that it could not last; something was coming but they did not know what. It was only towards the end that Hitler and his clowns in the NSDAP came clearly into view.
It is hard to shake off the vibe that we are living in the last days of the Republic. So of course 'the time to fight is NOW'. Now before it's too late, whenever that may be. I am pessimistic, but 'its over unless' it does not help me personally.
I think of 2000, when more phone calls, more door knocks, more activism in the last week could have made the difference in Florida - and how different everything could have been if Gore was confirmed as president.
Will HR1/S1 be passed? I don't know. There are mechanisms to get it through. But I can't imagine telling Manchin he better vote for it or the Republic is over, is the most effective strategy.
Anyway, I respect those who take an opposite view. Strident outrage has a place in a situation like this.
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sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Let them shoot their own feet off, godammit!
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)but , look what they have for leadership!!!!
hadEnuf
(2,212 posts)and hurts them the worst. And that would be the truth.
gab13by13
(21,402 posts)One of its main strategies is to delay. Democrats worked over 4 months giving the GQP everything it asked for in the commission. It sure looks like those 4 months were just delay tactics. I suggest Senator Schumer bring the House commission agreement to a vote, and do it quickly so that Speaker Pelosi can move on with the select committees.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)andym
(5,445 posts)after all-- when the GOP creates such committees they are indeed biased, so their followers surely will believe the same. Moreover, can Hawley, Cruz and McCarthy really be compelled to testify?
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Every swing district Republican can become the focus of the investigation and we can have wall-to-wall Benghazi style hearings for them all. I'm sure some freshman Republican who won their district by a point is going to be fine with having MTG and their names super glued together in the news for the next year and a half.