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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat if you need a roll-off dumpster? Do you want to use a local company?
Do you call around to the local companies that offer them and those services? Or, do you go online to a national company that accepts orders for such dumpsters? If you go online, are you hurting local businesses? Is it wrong to do that?
Well, I've done it both ways. Here's what I have found, and what I did today.
The first time I needed a roll-off dumpster to do a clean-out at my home, I called four different local companies. They all quoted me different prices, but none of them had the size of dumpster I wanted for the day I wanted it delivered. It was difficult to get an actual price quote from the local companies, too. There were over a dozen companies in my area, but I gave up after four calls. I had spent a couple of hours on the phone, trying to arrange something.
So, I called a national roll-off dumpster company. In five minutes, I had a price quote for exactly the dumpster I wanted, on the date I wanted it, so I booked it and paid in advance, using a credit card. I had a confirmation email immediately, with instructions for delivery day, a list of prohibited items, and rules for filling the dumpster. All in the email.
So, who showed up at my driveway? One of the companies I had called first. Apparently, they DID have the dumpster in the size I needed on the date I needed it, despite them not being able to promise that when I called them. The truck driver did a great job of placing it on my driveway, leaving plenty of room for the door on the dumpster to open, as well.
See, here's the thing: All roll-off dumpster companies are local businesses. That national company just serves to coordinate with local companies to find and schedule those services. I got a fixed price, which no doubt includes a profit for the national company, and did not have to search for and find a company that could promise what I needed on the day I needed it.
Now, I did not get to pick the company that actually provided the roll-off dumpster services. I tried to do that, and failed. But, a local business got the job and got paid for the job.
I did the same thing about 18 months ago. A different company delivered a roll-off dumpster that time. A different driver carefully placed it in my driveway. When I notified the national company the day before it got picked up, it was picked up right on schedule.
This morning, I ordered another 20 cubic yard dumpster, since we're getting ready to move. I called the same national company, which had the records from my other two orders. Arranging for the dumpster took less than five minutes. Which local company will deliver it? I have no idea. I don't really care.
Does anyone think those local companies care? They don't. They like that arrangement with the national company taking orders for them. Do customers care? They do not. They just want a dumpster in their driveway and for it to be hauled away when it's full.
I won't name the national company. It will show up if you search for roll-off dumpsters in your area. I suggest that you schedule your service through them. It will save you plenty of time and you'll still be patronizing a local company, with local employees and a local business owner.
Patterson
(1,531 posts)hlthe2b
(102,358 posts)sales to their customers, but they are contractually obligated to meet the requests of the intermediary. That may well be why you were initially told they didn't have what you need--i.e., that they hold back some "inventory" to fulfill that contract.
But, if you have to use a "middle man" company to get what you need, that is on the local company.
Subcontracts are the way of the world, but it can be problematic for small businesses as well as beneficial to consumers.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)than through the local company. I'm paying for the convenience of not having to shop around here to find what I need on the date I need it.
I saw the prices on the local companies' websites.
I'm just letting that national company do the finding and scheduling, so I don't have to call all over the place to get what I need. I don't mind paying for that. Local people and businesses will still get paid.
hlthe2b
(102,358 posts)The locals are getting the services of the national company, but ultimately undoubtedly paid less. Better for the consumer, but not necessarily the local business.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Same as Grubhub.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)You do not understand how the lead generation / lead referral business works.
This model applies to a lot of businesses. You paid more so that the local company can earn less.
While it may have just occurred to you today, and thus your fascination with the fact that you got a local contractor. it is no more novel than the way that Grubhub squeezes restaurant owners.
And, sure, you can say that "restaurants don't have to use Grubhub", but then Grubhub engages in anti-competitive behavior such as suggesting that the restaurant is closed, etc.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewrigie/2019/08/21/this-is-how-grubhub-is-hurting-your-favorite-restaurants-and-why-you-should-care/
This Is How Grubhub Is Hurting Your Favorite Restaurants And Why You Should Care
It is the same model which is being applied to a LOT of other businesses.
Yes, you pay more to order from a restaurant through Grubhub - and the restaurant makes less. Yes, you order through Grubhub - a national business - and get your food that was made by a local restaurant.
This is true of all kinds of local service providers who are in the business of providing their service, and get buried by lead generators and search engine optimizers who capture leads just like yours.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)The national companies pay for google placement and trick unsuspecting homeowners into thinking they are dealing locally. Ive made the mistake of calling these places only to realize they are not local when asking questions.
If they are adding such value why the deceitful tactics?
The idea you are getting better service from these scammers or doing the local guy any favors is ludicrous.
My company does business in 3 states. I can get a next day, or often same day, service just about everywhere. Its a competitive business.
Siwsan
(26,289 posts)I'm thinking about getting one so I can do a major clean out of my house. We're going to be tearing out a whole lot of carpeting, and there is just TOO MUCH STUFF in the house (a good portion of it 'inherited' from my parents, aunt/uncle and sister). I'm sorting things into 'donate' and 'trash'.
RegularJam
(914 posts)Easy as could be.
I also use handymen for similar ventures. Great use of money.
Would only use local for this service. It's just too easy not to.
ChazInAz
(2,572 posts)I am currently in the same position, and have been puzzling out how to solve it.
Having just moved from Tucson to a small Midwestern town, there has been a lot of aggravation in getting local contractors to help me upgrade a 120 year old church into a theater. I want to use local contractors, to keep business relationships sweet. They don't return calls, and tend to show up at odd hours once I finally catch their attention.
And, of course, with every renovation job there's always a need for dumpsters...
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I'm gonna name names here - Republic. They're the company who offers household waste pickup in our area - we live outside city limits so no municipal garbage service. When we needed a dumpster, we called Republic. Yep we got one of their blue dumpsters. We could have gone online and found that "national company" and rented a dumpster that way. For all we know it could have been a Republic dumpster or a Waste Management dumpster. You're right, I wouldn't have cared who delivered it. But we went with Republic since their already do our weekly household garbage.
Besides when it comes to trash, all business is local. I have zero problems with national companies offering a contact centre and then contracting out the actual service to local outfits. They benefit from having steady business and not having to run their own contact centre. Let each business do what it does best.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Their roll-off dumpster services are more expensive than what I'm paying. I checked. So, a smaller company will get the job, through that scheduling company.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)insurers have local networks of physicians.
In any event, there is no better way to clean out a house than having a big dumpster outside.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)in your driveway to stimulate you to throw stuff in it. I'm going to be brutal in getting ready for this move and sale of our current home. Brutal!
multigraincracker
(32,715 posts)Called one of those advertised on tv companies and got screwed. Found out that after they have your money, it's screw you. Lawyer told me they have deep pockets and do the tRump to you. What ever you do if you live in Michigan or Ohio, never call 1-800Hansons.
Been a year after paying top dollar and my roof leaks like crazy. My last hope is to file with the State Attorney Generals Office.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)We're re-roofing our current house before selling it. I will choose the roofer carefully!
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)I believe the local companies link up with a national trade group, and they get referrals from other similar companies that aren't local.
We consider somebody "local" because we call them in our own area code, and they have what looks to be a local address, am I right? It's an obvious question, but the answer is not obvious. Here's my story: I needed a locksmith several years ago and it was an emergency. I was locked out of my house (long story) and it was close to midnight. So I called someone who was listed in a local Pittsburgh phonebook, local phone number. He said "Somebody will be there in less than an hour."
About 45 minutes later someone showed up at my house to open up my door, but it wasn't the guy I called. It turns out the guy I called was in California, and he referred the job to this guy who was 10 miles from me! The local guy did the job and I paid him, but he owed some kind of percentage to the guy who gave him the referral. That's when he asked me, why did I call the guy in California? I said "I didn't. I called a local Pittsburgh number, and I thought he was in the city."
Maybe nobody uses the Yellow Pages book anymore, but nowadays the internet is the Yellow Pages. Our calls are going everywhere, and we don't even know it. We think we're calling a local company but it may not be the case.
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MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Most often, you have no idea who the locksmith is. In some ways, using a referral service is much easier.
Iggo
(47,565 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)so you don't wind up needing a dumpster or two.
ironflange
(7,781 posts)We filled four(!) dumpsters with crap getting ready for our move.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)couple of years. Now another one before moving. We've lived in this house for 17 years now, so that explains it, I guess.
I'm not sure I can fill a 20 yard dumpster this time, but I might as well think big, you know. Most likely, it will get filled completely, I'm betting. This time, it's serious.
ironflange
(7,781 posts)I'm not sure how we're going to fit everything in the new place.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)We're going to plan ahead of time.