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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:59 AM May 2021

Hardcore Trump worshipers out there -- and they are ready to rumble

Last week, to very little fanfare, House Democrats released their 2020 "after action report," also known as an "autopsy." The team, led by Rep. Sean Maloney, D-N.Y., included Reps. Jim Himes D-Conn., Katie Porter D-Ca. and Nikema Williams, D-Ga., and was tasked with finding out how the House managed to lose so many seats in an election in which the Democratic nominee managed to unseat an incumbent Republican president. Working with senior staff, Democrats analyzed the voter files from the presidential election and other state and local data and compared them with 600 different House race polls in 2020. According to this report in the Washington Post, they didn't really find anything that most observers hadn't already assumed from the results.

It turns out that Democrats underestimated the number of hardcore Trump lovers, which they surmised made the "defund the police" and "socialism" lies more potent in the swing districts. That underestimation is attributed to bad polling, which has been validated by pollsters themselves. Many Republicans just aren't responding anymore and the pollsters failed to successfully weigh their polls accordingly. (This has been going on for a while and really needs to be dealt with.) Maloney told the caucus that such faulty polling led them to spend too much time and money on "red-to-blue" districts and not enough to defend their incumbents in what turned out to be tight races.

They also finally came to terms with the fact that they spend way too much money on TV ads (which is going to make campaign consultants very sad.)


Republicans' strength in rural areas — combined with heavily gerrymandered district maps — allowed the GOP to retain comfortable state legislative majorities in the midterms, despite receiving fewer votes in statewide races. In response to this outcome, the GOP's legislative majorities in both states aren't resting on their laurels, or resigning themselves to their newly limited authority. Rather, they're using their lame-duck sessions to usurp a wide variety of powers from their states' incoming Democratic governors and attorneys general.

Needless to say, among Republicans' top priorities was supercharging their existing strategy to restrict voting rights, which has now been taken up by red states all over the country, even states like Iowa which voted for Trump in 2020 by double digits.


https://www.rawstory.com/trump-supporters-2653099439/

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abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
1. If someone would get down to doing the necessary work of expelling all the
Tue May 25, 2021, 05:14 AM
May 2021

reTHUG Fascist Insurrectionist Cultists from the U.S. House and Senate many of these problems
would disappear.

Demsrule86

(68,600 posts)
4. There is no way to do that...we don't have the votes. People here have such simple reasonable
Tue May 25, 2021, 06:57 AM
May 2021

solutions but without a larger majority, it can't happen.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
12. Then we're fucked
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:01 AM
May 2021

We aren’t going to have a large majority any time soon, because the GOP has rigged the system so that they will perpetually maintain either a majority or an impervious minority.

When an entrenched and cancerous power eliminates all legal and nonviolent ways of holding them accountable, the people will find other ways to hold them accountable.

bucolic_frolic

(43,197 posts)
5. Sounds like a new focus on grass roots
Tue May 25, 2021, 06:58 AM
May 2021

Which is good. TV ads? How many can you convert there, and who listens anymore? Personally I'm tired of direct mail. They must have spent $35 on me last year. Our state races were abysmal.

I always said MAGAts lie to pollsters, but was trounced on that idea on DU. Why wouldn't they lie? They lie about everything, they worship liars, they don't trust government, journalists, scientists, teachers. They only trust liars and preachers who worship what cannot be scientifically proven. And they worship at the altar of the Liar of All Liars! So you think they answer their smart phones and tell pollsters the truth? What are you, nuts?

Now it turns out they don't answer their phones at all. Who would have guessed? Their behavior will not change until they learn to reject the liars controlling their lying lives.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
7. Wasn't hard core trumpers that caused this
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:02 AM
May 2021

It was hard core republicans. Had it been trumpers, trump would have won.

Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
9. The Florida Democratic Party has been guilty of this for 20 years. It's poorly run.
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:13 AM
May 2021

It relies too heavily on highly paid consultants. Democrats have been locked out in FL for OVER TWENTY YEARS.

How many polls showed a tight race between Biden and Trump in FL? A bunch. How many showed Biden winning? Several.

Our Democratic caucus in the FL legislature is woefully inept, save for a few. Most don’t canvas. Most don’t try to expand the base by registering people to vote. They come out a couple months before an election with their hands out and then the people don’t see them again. Few have an active presence on social media.

The Democratic Party in my state is in such a horrible place it’s not even funny.

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
11. Their all tough until one of them gets shot.
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:58 AM
May 2021

Seeing that a lot of them are in poor health and spent way more on guns & ammo than medical supplies, they would probably die from their wounds.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
13. We're always playing catch-up
Tue May 25, 2021, 08:02 AM
May 2021

While Dems are trying to figure out how the faltered in the last election, Repugs are already planning for the election after next after next.

scipan

(2,351 posts)
14. We need to up our ground game IMO
Tue May 25, 2021, 04:34 PM
May 2021

We didn't do much last time because of covid. This time we need to knock on doors and really listen to what people tell them.

One thing we need is a much more responsive government, local, state and federal. Ways to complain, ways to present ideas, ways to get help. We are the party that needs to show that government works.

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